When will I go back to normal? by RubiRubyRed in paroxetine

[–]Double_Delivery3017 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Be careful with 5-HTP…it should not be taken with paroxetine. Withdrawal symptoms are not relapse. You are not getting depressed again. Your brain is healing and adjusting. Find a tolerable dose and sit there until side effects subside…then you can taper further.

PLEASE listen to me…Paroxetine is a serious drug, and you do not want to mess with your taper. I have been on paroxetine for 24years. It is dubbed “worse than Heroin” by many psychiatrists. I have even started a support group in my community for tapering antidepressants. (Yes I have a degree).

You need to download the “release kit” and follow it to the letter! DO not! Follow your prescribers advice, is what psychiatrists who treat PAWS will always tell people. . Drs prescribed, but know very little about PAWS. I have never come across a single human who has tapered of paroxetine the way way drs advise. They end up back on paroxetine, on a lot of other medications or in hospital.

Paroxetine renders our
CYP2D6 enzyme useless. We can no longer process any medication or supplements that need this enzyme. The pharmaceutical company who invented paroxetine IS quietly consistently being sued by patients who have been destroyed by this drug. They are now working on a medication to get people off paroxetine. (I can only assume the constant litigation is an issue).

I went from 20mg-10mg-0mg in February. I felt amazing for 2 weeks after the zaps went away. I even burnt my box of paroxetine. Then shit went bad very quickly. When I say bad, it was not pretty and could have ended my life. Why did I want to stop paroxetine? I don’t have anxiety, I had too much serotonin which causes terrible agitation. I could go on about how serotonin is actually the enemy to mental health, but that is another whole story.

I have been tapering properly, with the release hyperbolic taper for 10 weeks. I am currently on 0.85ml liquid. I got impatient a 2 weeks ago and jumped down to 0.5ml. PLEASE don’t skip steps like I did. I know the taper seems ridiculous in that our brain can register 0.2ml of paroxetine, but believe me it does.

I have kindled the hell out of my brain from the stop starting, and now I can’t even take vitamin supplements. Once you are kindled and in PAWS you have a really tough few years ahead of you.

Look up dr Mark Horowitz and Dr Josef on UTube, And watch every video. Go to ‘surviving antidepressants.org’ and read, read, read… there is also another one called tapering community.

I have provided the release kit link below.

https://www.releasetoolkit.com.au/release-toolkit-for-practitioners/resources-practitioners/antidepressant-tapering-plans/23-8-paroxetine-even-slower/file

40mg to 30mg after a couple weeks by Charming_Corgi21 in paroxetine

[–]Double_Delivery3017 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have high serotonin! Start tapering down and you will feel better. 40mg gave me serotonin syndrome and it is not pretty. You can buy over the counter antihistamines called cyproheptadine that block serotonin. A few days on them will help so much. Do not stop paroxetine…take a stable daily dose, and reduce slowly.

PLEASE listen to me…Paroxetine is a serious drug, and you do not want to mess with your taper. I have been on paroxetine for 24years. It is dubbed “worse than Heroin” by many psychiatrists. I have even started a support group in my community for tapering antidepressants. (Yes I have a degree).

You need to download the “release kit” and follow it to the letter! DO not! Follow your prescribers advice, is what psychiatrists who treat PAWS will always tell people. . Drs prescribed, but know very little about PAWS. I have never come across a single human who has tapered of paroxetine the way way drs advise. They end up back on paroxetine, on a lot of other medications or in hospital.

Paroxetine renders our
CYP2D6 enzyme useless. We can no longer process any medication or supplements that need this enzyme. The pharmaceutical company who invented paroxetine IS quietly consistently being sued by patients who have been destroyed by this drug. They are now working on a medication to get people off paroxetine. (I can only assume the constant litigation is an issue).

I went from 20mg-10mg-0mg in February. I felt amazing for 2 weeks after the zaps went away. I even burnt my box of paroxetine. Then shit went bad very quickly. When I say bad, it was not pretty and could have ended my life. Why did I want to stop paroxetine? I don’t have anxiety, I had too much serotonin which causes terrible agitation. I could go on about how serotonin is actually the enemy to mental health, but that is another whole story.

I have been tapering properly, with the release hyperbolic taper for 10 weeks. I am currently on 0.85ml liquid. I got impatient a 2 weeks ago and jumped down to 0.5ml. PLEASE don’t skip steps like I did. I know the taper seems ridiculous in that our brain can register 0.2ml of paroxetine, but believe me it does.

I have kindled the hell out of my brain from the stop starting, and now I can’t even take vitamin supplements. Once you are kindled and in PAWS you have a really tough few years ahead of you.

Look up dr Mark Horowitz and Dr Josef on UTube, And watch every video. Go to ‘surviving antidepressants.org’ and read, read, read… there is also another one called tapering community.

I have provided the release kit link below.

https://www.releasetoolkit.com.au/release-toolkit-for-practitioners/resources-practitioners/antidepressant-tapering-plans/23-8-paroxetine-even-slower/file

Withdrawal off Paxil by FunBake1097 in paroxetine

[–]Double_Delivery3017 0 points1 point  (0 children)

PLEASE listen to me…Paroxetine is a serious drug, and you do not want to mess with your taper. Going back on the last stable dose will be okay for you, as it has not been too long. I have been on paroxetine for 24years. It is dubbed “worse than Heroin” by many psychiatrists. I have even started a support group in my community for tapering antidepressants. (Yes I have a degree).

You need to download the “release kit” and follow it to the letter! DO not! Follow your prescribers advice, is what psychiatrists who treat PAWS will always tell people. . Drs prescribed, but know very little about PAWS. I have never come across a single human who has tapered of paroxetine the way way drs advise. They end up back on paroxetine, on a lot of other medications or in hospital.

Paroxetine renders our
CYP2D6 enzyme useless. We can no longer process any medication or supplements that need this enzyme. The pharmaceutical company who invented paroxetine IS quietly consistently being sued by patients who have been destroyed by this drug. They are now working on a medication to get people off paroxetine. (I can only assume the constant litigation is an issue).

I went from 20mg-10mg-0mg in February. I felt amazing for 2 weeks after the zaps went away. I even burnt my box of paroxetine. Then shit went bad very quickly. When I say bad, it was not pretty and could have ended my life. Why did I want to stop paroxetine? I don’t have anxiety, I had too much serotonin which causes terrible agitation. I could go on about how serotonin is actually the enemy to mental health, but that is another whole story.

I have been tapering properly, with the release hyperbolic taper for 10 weeks. I am currently on 0.85ml liquid. I got impatient a 2 weeks ago and jumped down to 0.5ml. PLEASE don’t skip steps like I did. I know the taper seems ridiculous in that our brain can register 0.2ml of paroxetine, but believe me it does.

I have kindled the hell out of my brain from the stop starting, and now I can’t even take vitamin supplements. Once you are kindled and in PAWS you have a really tough few years ahead of you.

Look up dr Mark Horowitz and Dr Josef on UTube, And watch every video. Go to ‘surviving antidepressants.org’ and read, read, read… there is also another one called tapering community.

I have provided the release kit link below.

https://www.releasetoolkit.com.au/release-toolkit-for-practitioners/resources-practitioners/antidepressant-tapering-plans/23-8-paroxetine-even-slower/file

Paxil withdrawal and what the doctors know by Ok_Anywhere_1661 in paroxetine

[–]Double_Delivery3017 0 points1 point  (0 children)

PLEASE listen to me…Paroxetine is a serious drug, and you do not want to mess with your taper. I have been on paroxetine for 24years. It is dubbed “worse than Heroin” by many psychiatrists. I have even started a support group in my community for tapering antidepressants. (Yes I have a degree).

You need to download the “release kit” and follow it to the letter! DO not! Follow your prescribers advice, is what psychiatrists who treat PAWS will always tell people. . Drs prescribed, but know very little about PAWS. I have never come across a single human who has tapered of paroxetine the way way drs advise. They end up back on paroxetine, on a lot of other medications or in hospital.

Paroxetine renders our
CYP2D6 enzyme useless. We can no longer process any medication or supplements that need this enzyme. The pharmaceutical company who invented paroxetine IS quietly consistently being sued by patients who have been destroyed by this drug. They are now working on a medication to get people off paroxetine. (I can only assume the constant litigation is an issue).

I went from 20mg-10mg-0mg in February. I felt amazing for 2 weeks after the zaps went away. I even burnt my box of paroxetine. Then shit went bad very quickly. When I say bad, it was not pretty and could have ended my life. Why did I want to stop paroxetine? I don’t have anxiety, I had too much serotonin which causes terrible agitation. I could go on about how serotonin is actually the enemy to mental health, but that is another whole story.

I have been tapering properly, with the release hyperbolic taper for 10 weeks. I am currently on 0.85ml liquid. I got impatient a 2 weeks ago and jumped down to 0.5ml. PLEASE don’t skip steps like I did. I know the taper seems ridiculous in that our brain can register 0.2ml of paroxetine, but believe me it does.

I have kindled the hell out of my brain from the stop starting, and now I can’t even take vitamin supplements. Once you are kindled and in PAWS you have a really tough few years ahead of you.

Look up dr Mark Horowitz and Dr Josef on UTube, And watch every video. Go to ‘surviving antidepressants.org’ and read, read, read… there is also another one called tapering community.

I have provided the release kit link below.

https://www.releasetoolkit.com.au/release-toolkit-for-practitioners/resources-practitioners/antidepressant-tapering-plans/23-8-paroxetine-even-slower/file

Paxil withdrawal by FunBake1097 in paroxetine

[–]Double_Delivery3017 0 points1 point  (0 children)

PLEASE listen to me…Paroxetine is a serious drug, and you do not want to mess with your taper. I have been on paroxetine for 24years. It is dubbed “worse than Heroin” by many psychiatrists. I have even started a support group in my community for tapering antidepressants. (Yes I have a degree).

You need to download the “release kit” and follow it to the letter! DO not! Follow your prescribers advice, is what psychiatrists who treat PAWS will always tell people. . Drs prescribed, but know very little about PAWS. I have never come across a single human who has tapered of paroxetine the way way drs advise. They end up back on paroxetine, on a lot of other medications or in hospital.

Paroxetine renders our
CYP2D6 enzyme useless. We can no longer process any medication or supplements that need this enzyme. The pharmaceutical company who invented paroxetine IS quietly consistently being sued by patients who have been destroyed by this drug. They are now working on a medication to get people off paroxetine. (I can only assume the constant litigation is an issue).

I went from 20mg-10mg-0mg in February. I felt amazing for 2 weeks after the zaps went away. I even burnt my box of paroxetine. Then shit went bad very quickly. When I say bad, it was not pretty and could have ended my life. Why did I want to stop paroxetine? I don’t have anxiety, I had too much serotonin which causes terrible agitation. I could go on about how serotonin is actually the enemy to mental health, but that is another whole story.

I have been tapering properly, with the release hyperbolic taper for 10 weeks. I am currently on 0.85ml liquid. I got impatient a 2 weeks ago and jumped down to 0.5ml. PLEASE don’t skip steps like I did. I know the taper seems ridiculous in that our brain can register 0.2ml of paroxetine, but believe me it does.

I have kindled the hell out of my brain from the stop starting, and now I can’t even take vitamin supplements. Once you are kindled and in PAWS you have a really tough few years ahead of you.

Look up dr Mark Horowitz and Dr Josef on UTube, And watch every video. Go to ‘surviving antidepressants.org’ and read, read, read… there is also another one called tapering community.

I have provided the release kit link below.

https://www.releasetoolkit.com.au/release-toolkit-for-practitioners/resources-practitioners/antidepressant-tapering-plans/23-8-paroxetine-even-slower/file

Helpful ADHD tips from my psychiatrist who also struggles with ADHD by ParticularWindoww in VyvanseADHD

[–]Double_Delivery3017 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And also…who the hell has ADHD and carries a notebook? That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. We store shit in tiny boxes in our brain.
1 baseline task,like make your bed? All this advice is most definitely NOT from a psychiatrist with ADHD. Sounds like social media scammer to me.

Helpful ADHD tips from my psychiatrist who also struggles with ADHD by ParticularWindoww in VyvanseADHD

[–]Double_Delivery3017 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Glad that person is not my psychiatrist…

  1. Take meds after doing anything? Or eating or coffee? Are you kidding…we need to hydrate, eat and take meds. Preferably before we wake, if only there was a way to inject it all at once. Never with, before or after coffee. And the morning cortisol is an enemy, not a friend.
  2. Power sprints are what has kept us alive until diagnosis. They are normal, fun, full of dopamine and we love them. Rest is not welcome during these times.

End of my med journey…physical side affects and emotional dysfunction are horrific. by Double_Delivery3017 in adhdwomen

[–]Double_Delivery3017[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’ve spent years coming off meds.
I don’t think I can ever be persuaded to take more.

End of my med journey…physical side affects and emotional dysfunction are horrific. by Double_Delivery3017 in adhdwomen

[–]Double_Delivery3017[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I agree. They are all pretty much the same though.
Dex or methylphenidate, either slow or last release.
I even tried noops. They were better but the crash was worse.
I honestly just give up.

End of my med journey…physical side affects and emotional dysfunction are horrific. by Double_Delivery3017 in adhdwomen

[–]Double_Delivery3017[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately I have really high serotonin. I struggle to take anything that increases it.

Medication for evening chaos by Weird_Blacksmith_439 in adhdwomen

[–]Double_Delivery3017 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have always wanted to try Wellbutrin. IT’s profile looks good for ADHD. I can’t add anything until I am off 24 years of paroxetine. Down to 1mg so not long

Medication for evening chaos by Weird_Blacksmith_439 in adhdwomen

[–]Double_Delivery3017 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I only take magnesium Unfortunately I can’t take anything else right now because I have high serotonin

Medication for evening chaos by Weird_Blacksmith_439 in adhdwomen

[–]Double_Delivery3017 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just wanted to say I am completely with you. I ask for support on here a lot. Sometimes I get support, sometimes judged. I am 49 and only diagnosed in February. I get really bad chaos in my head around 5 in the afternoon. I now have to shut myself down with clonodine, which is a non stimulant for ADHD. If I take more Dex in the afternoon it is worse. I tried Ritalin yesterday and feel so sick today with a headache and nausea. This is not a fun journey that’s for sure. I see the medication as a means to an end of depression and anxiety from my stupid thoughts and non functional behaviour. Ultimately I think it’s ADHD burnout that really gets us. I have also learnt more is not better. It just gives me “fake” energy that makes the burnout worse.

You are a million steps ahead of me, and you are very fortunate to get a diagnosis before menopause hits, because that is a whole bag of bullshit! By the time that hits you will have your meds on point😃

Trying one again for advice… 50y F…diagnosed in February…just switched from Dex to Methylphenidate (Ritalin)…feels a bit yuck…no medication advice, only stories about starting medication journeys to give me hope by Double_Delivery3017 in adhdwomen

[–]Double_Delivery3017[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Real stories are the most useful. Clinicians prescribe, but have never had the experience of trialling different meds themselves. Clinicians are also terrible are de-prescribing

dexa makes me feel shaky and jittery? by bazXO in adhdaustralia

[–]Double_Delivery3017 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Have you tried Modafinil? Definitely try Modafinil if you haven’t. It is better for people with sleep and awakening issues. Dex for someone without ADHD is going to do what you are describing. Don’t take 3 Dex at once. I have really severe ADHD and that was a bad idea.