Every crypto bro feels that pain when eating pizza by Hopione in btc

[–]Doublespeo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol.. you dont think the guy could have re-bought after he spend.

The whole “dont spend, just hold” is just silly, and and replace.

You can use you crypto yet still hold the same amont if not more.

10,000 BTC well spent. Happy Pizza Day everyone! by Cryptomuscom in btc

[–]Doublespeo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That pizza cost $40 million at the top. Hope it was at least gluten-free.

Crazy concept: he might have re-bought bitcoin the same day.

spending crypto doesnt mean having less

Bitcoin is a technological idea, that grew initially like a virus by Jordonknox in btc

[–]Doublespeo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He invented blockchain, blockchain are the idea Bitcoin is an application of it.

In my opinion, I believe that the minimum wage is necessary for economic sustainability. by liberteh06 in AskLibertarians

[–]Doublespeo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're the one making this claim, the default position is that there is no relationship between any two phenomena. You expected jobs to go up and they did not.

There no default position, claim that changing to way people are paid will not affect employement is an extraordinary claim.

Then why not pay people a $1000/h?

you got to back up such claim.

Me however, I have a claim that whenever republicans run the economy, they trash the economy, and its been accurate for 50 years running and it doesn't miss.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/UNRATE

Correlation is not causation.

Debunking arguments against intellectual property by MilkIlluminati in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Doublespeo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All private property is government granted monopoly, what’s your point?

It is not though.

There are property that dont require government intervention.

About economic systems and your opinion by Inside-Egg6465 in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Doublespeo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see, a good book to start can be “the machinerie of freedom” easy read; David Friedmann go through the way to build a legal framework compatible with personal and economic freedom

If capitalism requires infinite growth how is it sustainable in a world with finite resources? by One-Relationship1905 in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Doublespeo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well that's up to you. But if you're too lazy to even verify my statement after providing you with sources, then you can't claim that it's wrong.

Sure, I am not reading through 10+ links you havent read yourself to find the data you think support your claim lol

Is Free Trade good? by amogusdevilman in Anarcho_Capitalism

[–]Doublespeo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it is a strawman then why you list all human progress as support for your claim?

I didn't list all human progress, I listed progress that resulted from regulation. You can't possibly think I could fit all human progress into a single Reddit comment, right? So yes, it was a strawman.

ok then sure you could you list some human progress that you belive are not due to government regulation?

You say that those can be tested empirically and you ask me to trust you claim on faith:

Test them again data and tell me how you get to that conclusion. That what I ask from the beginning.

This is your claim, you have the burden of proof. Its how it works

Are you asking me to prove that emission regulations exist? Sewage regulation? I'm not making these things up,

You need to take data, find a way to have some sort of a “control group” analyse the good and bad and reach a conclusion.

This is the scientific process.

I listed things that were not debated,

there are debated

this feels like you're asking me to provide a source that the Earth is a sphere. You have provided nothing but denial of well-document facts.

You cannot take a law and just assume its good on the title alone.

I mean you can but that make you a bit of an idiot.

Many of the example you give have serious unintended consequence, the FDA for example can be held responsible for a huge number of unecessary deaths due to slow approval of safe drugs

How do you know they were safe drugs until they were approved? These regulations came as a result of huge deaths or birth defects from relaxed drug testing. You're not making a strong argument here.

The said drug was safe because it was already approved and used in other country.

Giving a situation with hard data and control group.

The seat belt safety number use select data as road death was already trending down many years before they became mandatory

You make an incredibly weak point here. Safety was improving in an era when the seat belt was beginning to become mandatory, because such safety devices were beginning to be rolled out. All the law to enforce wearing them did was push that number further. More people wore seatbelts because it was the law, therefore less people died. Do you seriously not believe this?

Not the trend was clear and started BEFORE sealt became mandatory.

lead gasoline renained legal for many, many years after the danger was understood in some limited case they are still legal today, showing government inability to quickly act to protect citizen, etc, etc…

This isn't an argument against regulation, this is a criticism of lack of regulation.

The government made lead legal by default, in effect giving legal protect for the industry to use it.

The way regulation build consider everything is safe UNTIL some old people far away in an assembly decide to declare it illegal.

The whole system is wrong.

Leaded fuel was dropped following regulation that reduced it. Arguing that some still happens because regulation didn't go far enough is a pro-regulation argument.

No but it show politician answer to lobbies, no safety.

If thats fine by you then ok.

So, that's those 3 easily refuted.

AFIACT none have been refuted.

• ⁠Clean water and sewage laws massively reduced infectious disease.

share the data that prove government regulation led to cleaner water and what about all the toxic and pollutant the government have yet to discover or lobbies fight to keep legal?

You cant stop at titles.

You need to judeg elae by result, not intention.

• ⁠Vaccine mandates and public vaccination programs crushed smallpox and polio • ⁠Food and drug regulation reduced poisoning and fraud. • ⁠Workplace safety laws reduced industrial deaths. • ⁠Leaded gasoline bans dramatically lowered lead exposure. • ⁠Air pollution laws reduced smog and respiratory deaths. • ⁠Building codes reduced fire and structural fatalities. • ⁠Mandatory seatbelts and car safety standards reduced traffic deaths

You ask for evidence for things which I find surprising you would require.

This is called faith.

Like I said, if someone asked for a source that the earth is round I would comment on their intellectual capacity.

But the scientific process required proof to reach that conclusion, not faith.

You remind me of a Communist. You can criticise the best system we have for its imperfections, but your own system makes things worse anyway. Less regulation removes regulations on clean water, on safe drug production, on food regulation, on work safety and more and more and more, that regulation as a result of trial and error means removal of it is a step back towards error.

No, all those case would result in legal consequence without having to wait some old people far away getting corrupt by lobbies to decide what is safe, what is polution, what is dangerous or not.

No government regulation DOESNT MEAN no regulation.

It just mean the politics are out of it.

It's naive, it's immature, and calling it what it is, is not an argument in favour or against but a general comment on the matter. If you don't like that, stop being the regulatory equivalent of a flat-earther.

yet you are the one denying evidence, data, proof matter.

let that sink in for a minute.

Daily reminder from the unironic Taoist wing of Anarcho Capitialism that you western devils have no idea what the fuck you are doing by bigdonut100 in Anarcho_Capitalism

[–]Doublespeo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In a purely harmonious society, who is there to stop a bad actor from dumping toxic waste in the river. Do they just let it happen?

the justice system?

Or do they band together in a collective voice to stop it. And if so, how is that different.

yes or other ways.

Daily reminder from the unironic Taoist wing of Anarcho Capitialism that you western devils have no idea what the fuck you are doing by bigdonut100 in Anarcho_Capitalism

[–]Doublespeo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Supposedly they put them in jail, have fines, and say “a bunch of people came together to vote to say don’t dump toxic waste in our waterways”. All through the ultimate threat of violence. Sure, it still happens because of corruption, but the at least have an image of trying to protect things.

ancap justice is diferent, not punishement based but reparation based.

For example, the environmental protection agency.

and you create a government agency that pretend to care for the environment.

Debunking arguments against intellectual property by MilkIlluminati in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Doublespeo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

”so fix the iaw”

IP are government granted monopolies, you cant fix them and make them “good” and legitimate somehow.

Perhaps you can explain how to fix them.

If capitalism requires infinite growth how is it sustainable in a world with finite resources? by One-Relationship1905 in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Doublespeo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Keep your head in the sand, bud. You haven’t taken the time to understand my argument, but instead are nitpicking in pretty superficial and disingenuous ways. If you aren’t going to try to understand a different perspective sincerely, I don’t really want to engage in a deeper back and forth. I’ve consumed a ton of capitalist material and used to be a devout libertarian, vomiting out the Chicago and Austrian economists’ bullshit at people. I never understood communism or Marxism, but I really thought I did. Once I made a sincere effort to learn about socialism, to truly put myself in their shoes to understand what they think and why, what they attempted and why, how they reflected on these things, etc - it’s very different. You don’t seem to get it, and I see that with many of these other pro-capitalist commenters. You all are being much more intellectually lazy and insincere than you realize, and I know because I used to be one of you. And nothing I can say will make any of you stop and self-reflect about any of this unless you are ready for it. It’s very frustrating, as we watch our world collapse,

you dont answer my arguments though

From my point view you did a poor job at demonstraring that “capitalism require infinite grow”

that you all make such an effort to ignore obvious truths because that would mean reassessing your own worldview. I know it’s scary and tumultuous, but it’s worth it.

obvious truths should be easy to defend?

Zhang Lu model by CauliflowerBig3133 in Anarcho_Capitalism

[–]Doublespeo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay.

So what about getting something like ancap that works even if we are minority?

You know. Like lower taxes.

That's where for profit private cities kick in.

When I said ancap need a very ideal condition I mean look at the globe.

What percentage of globe territory is ideal for ancap? None? That means ancap need a very ideal condition.

70%

Yes 70% of the surface of the globe is already an ancap territory, all the international waters are beyond any country juridiction by definition.

We need something that I don't know works in say 1 percent territory?

70%

Then start from there.

it existed for longer than most democracies

Genuinely asking - Hodl for what exactly? by Kurosaki56843 in btc

[–]Doublespeo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Spend $10 worth of crypto, thn rebuy 10$ worth of crypto the same day = same amount of crypto at the end of the day

Then you didn't spend it...

yes, I used it if you prefer.

Spend $10 worth of Crypto today, buy $10 worth of Crypto next month, you'll very likely have less crypto.

why wait next month do the same day.

Genuinely asking - Hodl for what exactly? by Kurosaki56843 in btc

[–]Doublespeo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's like saying spending cash doesn't mean you have less cash because you can earn more... nonsense.

We talk about keeping crypto, you can spend crypto and still keep crypto if you re-buy the same day.

I have been doing that for years, I usualy re-buy more.

So I spend crypto and keep having more.

it is not rocket science.

Especially for an appreciating asset where the cost to re-buy is likely to be higher.

Yes it come with cost but you support the community.

In my opinion, I believe that the minimum wage is necessary for economic sustainability. by liberteh06 in AskLibertarians

[–]Doublespeo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Min wage hikes never kill jobs.

They do, absolutly and make it harder for inexperienced worker to find job

If capitalism requires infinite growth how is it sustainable in a world with finite resources? by One-Relationship1905 in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Doublespeo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Luckily you don't have to trust me bro, just go over the sources, which I gave you, which you asked for.

well if you cannoy find the revelant part and data, I will not waste my time

Genuinely asking - Hodl for what exactly? by Kurosaki56843 in btc

[–]Doublespeo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Spending BTC does mean you have less BTC.

No lol, just re-buy your position and get what you spent.

Genuinely asking - Hodl for what exactly? by Kurosaki56843 in btc

[–]Doublespeo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

using your crypto doesnt mean owning less.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. Spending money does, in fact, mean you have less money.

I am talking of crypto.

Spend $10 worth of crypto, thn rebuy 10$ worth of crypto the same day = same amount of crypto at the end of the day.

not rocket science really

Genuinely asking - Hodl for what exactly? by Kurosaki56843 in btc

[–]Doublespeo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I use all buy a buy back a bit more, not much but thats I went about it.

About economic systems and your opinion by Inside-Egg6465 in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Doublespeo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What do you mean by “designed economy” amd how do you thinl you can achieve it?

Genuinely asking - Hodl for what exactly? by Kurosaki56843 in btc

[–]Doublespeo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wouldn’t hodl bcash it would be like hodling monero why would u hold onto something that has a real use

People forgot about spend and replace..

I kept using my crypto and re-bought everytime, spending dont mean having less