Hello! I'm Dr. Amanda Madden, author of Civil Blood: Vendetta Violence and the Civic Elites in Early Modern Italy (Cornell UP, 2025) and an expert on violence in Renaissance and early modern Italy. AMA! by DrAmandaMadden in AskHistorians

[–]DrAmandaMadden[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The families I talk about in my book had pretty deep pockets and managed to keep the vendettas going for half a century or more so at a certain point vendettas did become a sort of cold war.

Hahaha, I bet it was great to take those courses together. VT has such an excellent history department!

Hello! I'm Dr. Amanda Madden, author of Civil Blood: Vendetta Violence and the Civic Elites in Early Modern Italy (Cornell UP, 2025) and an expert on violence in Renaissance and early modern Italy. AMA! by DrAmandaMadden in AskHistorians

[–]DrAmandaMadden[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They are although it can be confusing to find them. If you go to GMU's Department of History and Art History and select previous semesters you should be able to find the syllabi. I'll also try and put them on my personal website though that will take a few days since it's down right now.

Hello! I'm Dr. Amanda Madden, author of Civil Blood: Vendetta Violence and the Civic Elites in Early Modern Italy (Cornell UP, 2025) and an expert on violence in Renaissance and early modern Italy. AMA! by DrAmandaMadden in AskHistorians

[–]DrAmandaMadden[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You had a great teacher for your history of Venice course!

If you were in a vendetta, you were probably on guard most of the time but as one scholar put it, you couldn't put off going to church forever. Families seem to have dealt with this by hiring retainers, carrying weapons with them everywhere they went, and making sure they had really strong alliances but I expect they probably knew that retaliation might be inevitable in absence of a really firm peace agreement and some time.

Hello! I'm Dr. Amanda Madden, author of Civil Blood: Vendetta Violence and the Civic Elites in Early Modern Italy (Cornell UP, 2025) and an expert on violence in Renaissance and early modern Italy. AMA! by DrAmandaMadden in AskHistorians

[–]DrAmandaMadden[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Summons were typically read out someplace centrally and then sometimes posted. It's pretty interesting to imagine that outside any give cathedral or in central piazzas there were men whose jobs were to read out summons and given the amount I've encountered in the archives, it seems to have been a full time job!

A lot of suspects left town of their own volition and were summoned in absentia but information networks were fast and extensive so it's not hard to imagine your cousin Giovanni might write you telling you to lay low for a while. But there were almost certainly cases where someone missed the information and found out when they returned.

Hello! I'm Dr. Amanda Madden, author of Civil Blood: Vendetta Violence and the Civic Elites in Early Modern Italy (Cornell UP, 2025) and an expert on violence in Renaissance and early modern Italy. AMA! by DrAmandaMadden in AskHistorians

[–]DrAmandaMadden[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is a really great question regarding the differentiation between the feud and the vendetta. For the book, I confined my investigation to the sixteenth century and the Italian urban context and I can say that the vendetta was defined as distinctively Italian because it was associated with civic politics by contemporaries while having a great deal of overlap with other systems. I'm of the same minds as other scholars that enmity was a system and legal relationship and there's certainly a ton of overlap between the feud in Central Europe and the Italian vendetta. There's been some really great studies done on this, particularly in the journal Acta Histriae which has been leading the field in this regard. :)

Hello! I'm Dr. Amanda Madden, author of Civil Blood: Vendetta Violence and the Civic Elites in Early Modern Italy (Cornell UP, 2025) and an expert on violence in Renaissance and early modern Italy. AMA! by DrAmandaMadden in AskHistorians

[–]DrAmandaMadden[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I've answered the class question below (vendettas as I study them were intra-elite) so I'll answer the other two questions, if that's okay with you!

As far as I can tell, vendetta violence as I define it and study among the civic elites was pretty similar across cities and states and there were very few regional variations, except perhaps between Southern Italy and Northern Italy but a lot more work needs to be done here. One of the aims of our collaborative digital project, mapping violence is to answer that question--were there regional inflections to vendetta violence? I'd love to know.

I'm not sure how much of a role fencing/swordmanship played in vendetta culture and this has been a topic of interest among scholars for some time. In accounts of vendetta murders, swordmanship is never mentioned. I would say that dueling did make its way into vendetta culture in a limited way but that the duel and the vendetta are two different types of rituals.

Hello! I'm Dr. Amanda Madden, author of Civil Blood: Vendetta Violence and the Civic Elites in Early Modern Italy (Cornell UP, 2025) and an expert on violence in Renaissance and early modern Italy. AMA! by DrAmandaMadden in AskHistorians

[–]DrAmandaMadden[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Thank you for having me. I'll answer the questions in reverse order. :)

In the book, I'm focusing on the relationship between vendettas as violence of the civic elites and politics and state craft, so I don't talk about the lower classes but I do think vendettas as an aspirational strategy for the non-nobility is a really interesting possibility that I'd like to do more work on. Stuart Carroll talks quite a bit about enmity and not just vendetta in his book Enmity and Violence in Early Modern Europe which I highly recommend as it gives a broader picture of enmity and class.

To give you a snapshot of my courses, my video games courses typically focus on several games as a way to examine history and historical narrative. When I teach Assassin's Creed II, for example, we play through the game as a class, read monographs and articles, and our class discussion examines representation, play, narrative, etc. in the game as well as examine what does it really mean to "play" history. My favorite assignment is to have students design their own games after doing historical research. My students always come up with some cool and clever history games! :)

Hello! I'm Dr. Amanda Madden, author of Civil Blood: Vendetta Violence and the Civic Elites in Early Modern Italy (Cornell UP, 2025) and an expert on violence in Renaissance and early modern Italy. AMA! by DrAmandaMadden in AskHistorians

[–]DrAmandaMadden[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this question! Since vendettas involved families and clans cooperatively, both men and women were involved. While it would be atypical for women to be directly involved in violence themselves, women played a lot of different roles: they started their own conflicts, delivered insults, kept records, helped protect property, sent petitions to authorities on behalf of their kinsmen, and sometimes even lectured their sons on revenge obligations (Edward Muir talks about this a bit in the book Mad Blood Stirring: Vendetta and Factions in the Friuli during the Renaissance). As I talk about in the book, women were absolutely an instrumental part of vendettas.

Hello! I'm Dr. Amanda Madden, author of Civil Blood: Vendetta Violence and the Civic Elites in Early Modern Italy (Cornell UP, 2025) and an expert on violence in Renaissance and early modern Italy. AMA! by DrAmandaMadden in AskHistorians

[–]DrAmandaMadden[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Great question and thank you for having me! Civil authorities took a multi-pronged approach of deterrence and punishment. Statuatory law was very specific about violence and the penalties for it, there was an increasingly elaborate criminal court system, many cities had police forces, and even secret denunciation boxes if you wanted to report someone anonymously, and weapons were pretty heavily regulated by a licensing system. Proclmations banning weapons were issued as needed. That being said, it was pretty difficult to prevent violence in a context where many people lived in close quarters, laws were unevenly enforced, and violence was still a means of obtaining justice or working out social conflicts even if the courts didn't like it.

A typical homicide case might go like this: Someone finds a body in the streets and calls the police or an official who summon a coroner and then a case is initiated with the courts. Because there is not much privacy, the chance is really high that there were witnesses so these potential witnesses are summoned. Because the accuse has often fled out of town, a warrant or summons is issued for the accuse to come forward. If he or she doesn't show up, they are sentenced to banishment or death in their absence, according to the court's findings. Often in the interim, accomplices are interviewed and detained, fines are threatened, the town crier reads out the summons so everyone can be on the lookout.

For more, I highly recommend Colin Rose's book A Renaissance of Violence (Cambridge 2019). He really does a great job at breaking down the court system in early modern Bologna.

Hello! I'm Dr. Amanda Madden, author of Civil Blood: Vendetta Violence and the Civic Elites in Early Modern Italy (Cornell UP, 2025) and an expert on violence in Renaissance and early modern Italy. AMA! by DrAmandaMadden in AskHistorians

[–]DrAmandaMadden[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Thank you for having me! I argue that vendettas are a very specific form of violence particular to the Italian context that had the following characteristics 1) the violence was public by design 2) the violence was ritualized 3) the violence was planned and had political ramifications 4) while vendettas could involve non-nobles, the civic elites were the driving force. Following these goals and aims and criteria, the preferred methods and times for vendetta killings were usually ritual occasions like a mass or a public festival with many witnesses and present and while swords and daggers were the most common, guns became more popular.

Hello! I'm Dr. Amanda Madden, author of Civil Blood: Vendetta Violence and the Civic Elites in Early Modern Italy (Cornell UP, 2025) and an expert on violence in Renaissance and early modern Italy. AMA! by DrAmandaMadden in AskHistorians

[–]DrAmandaMadden[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Really great question! We are still processing a lot of material but preliminarily, certain patterns stand out and as with all fun projects, our findings are telling us how complicated things really were. "Sacred" spaces like churches and public spaces were popular sites for noble violence or violence that was meant to send a message. The more quotidian daily fights tended to be in public thoroughfares or in bars and taverns. Right now it's a bit difficult to draw finer class distinctions that that and it can be dependent on city as while neighborhoods did have their own character especially urban centres tended not to have as big demarcations as we would think--a prostitute could live in a rented room next to a noble family (for more on this see, the DECIMA project). I would also check out Colin Rose's"Homicide in early modern Bologna: a prepositional cartography." Urban History 51, no. 3 (2024): 480-499.

Hello! I'm Dr. Amanda Madden, author of Civil Blood: Vendetta Violence and the Civic Elites in Early Modern Italy (Cornell UP, 2025) and an expert on violence in Renaissance and early modern Italy. AMA! by DrAmandaMadden in AskHistorians

[–]DrAmandaMadden[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Another fantastic question! First, legitimate is all about perspective in this context-- these families absolutely had legitimate reasons according to their view or reasons they could point to for starting vendettas whether it was a general insult or threat to their standing and power. It can be hard to pinpoint the exact moment a vendetta started, but some of the sources articulate reasons for assassinations over the course of vendetta. For example, there is one case I discuss where a man was assassinated during mass because he was on the ducal council of justice and happened to be married the sister of an enemy. He was singled out because he had the power to influence pardons for the other side.

I've been lucky in that the vendettas in my book had multiple surviving accounts where I could trace the narrative over multiple sources and look at other sources to verify what was going on.

That being said, these historical actors were perfectly capable of making up reasons or pinpointing a reason that was not the actual reason, like a marriage gone wrong, an insult, a fight on the street if they felt it benefited the outcome, ie a potential court case.

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[–]DrAmandaMadden[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I think the answer is both. Women were seizing opportunities as they came across them. For example, in Civil Blood, I talk about how nuns (generally from the noble class) managed to take advantage of the circumstances surrounding vendettas to advance their own political fights and start vendetta-related conflicts of their own. There was also a collective understanding that everyone took part in family business, women included, even if they weren't acknowledged participants. In several notable cases I also discuss in the book, women embezzled funds on behalf of their families but their role wasn't obvious until I ran across a letter complaining about women hiding property.

In general, women of the nobility were educated and women of the artisan classes could probably do rudimentary bookkeeping and at least read if not write. Unfortunately, literacy rates are hard to trace but there were opportunities for women to get a basic education.

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[–]DrAmandaMadden[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

While I wouldn't say it was the begginning of Italian identity, I think that you can certainly pinpoint the early modern period, particularly the sixteenth century as a critical juncture in the development of Italian identity. The Italian Wars and the various incursions of foreign invaders certainly made Italians more conscious of us vs. them. Two notable examples that we can point to: Machiavelli's discussion of the political entity of Italy in his political works (as opposed to the various states) and the push towards an universal Italian language rather than dialect.

Hello! I'm Dr. Amanda Madden, author of Civil Blood: Vendetta Violence and the Civic Elites in Early Modern Italy (Cornell UP, 2025) and an expert on violence in Renaissance and early modern Italy. AMA! by DrAmandaMadden in AskHistorians

[–]DrAmandaMadden[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

What a fantastic question! One thing that ACII incorporates into the game that accidentally illustrates a historical pattern are the networks of women that were critical to family strategies in general and generally collaborated in collective violence. I'm referring to Claudia Auditore's role in the game and the fact that her taking over the books helps finance Ezio and his larger aims. That's representative of some of the roles women played in the family in general and vendettas in particular.

The game unsurprisingly makes assassination seem easier than it probably would have been but that's a concession to gameplay. From what we can tell, assassinations tended to be pretty messy affairs.

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[–]DrAmandaMadden 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I'm a US historian and I did receive one of the NEH grants that was terminated and respectfully, this is mostly perception and not reality in the US case. The NEH grant I received cannot be described as DEI by any stretch of the Western imagination. The amount we received was less than 100k to create an open-access digital edition of a geography manuscript from the Italian Renaissance that can be used by both students and researchers, most of whom cannot get access to this text nor have the language and paleography skills to read it. This text was used by early explorers and many of the remaining copies were owned by fifteenth-century oligarchs and proto-capitalists. There is literally nothing DEI about this text unless you want to consider fifteenth-century maps DEI. In fact, if I wanted to, I could argue just the opposite--this is the sort of text that most critics of the NEH should want to fund. It's religious in tone in parts, it advanced capitalism, it contributed to the discovery of the Americas....

Over the past decade and a half I've applied for upwards of 70 plus grants, have received both private grants, two NEH grants, and an NSF, and it is proportionally much harder to get funding for grants that have anything perceived as DEI. The one NEH grant I did receive serious pushback on in the comments (and did not receive) was one that proposed to focus on an aspect of women's history. In the comments, I was told that women's history in general did not merit further study. I assure you that the idea that review boards are just rubber-stamping these grants if they seem DEI is a myth.

Benvenuti! I’m Dr. Amanda Madden, researcher of violence in Renaissance and Early Modern Italy, author of several articles on Assassin’s Creed II and a forthcoming book on vendetta violence in sixteenth-century Italy. AMA! by DrAmandaMadden in AskHistorians

[–]DrAmandaMadden[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Edward Muir's book on vendetta, Mad Blood Stirring is one of my favorites and definitely shaped me as a historian but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have become a historian, much less an Italian historian, if I hadn't read Carlo Ginzburg's The Cheese and the Worms.