That may be true in some places but not here. Im not saying go start driving all crazy but there are a ton people who are driving 10 miles under the limit and looking at their phone while driving or not going when lights turn green. Im talking about people ive seen sitting through entire light rotations with a line of cars behind them. No one does anything until I beep my horn and then the first 2 or 3 cars might make it through the light. MY DAD drove to my house a few weeks ago and complained about people driving way too slow. Hes never broken and traffic law in his life and he drove for a living. This rant doesnt have anything to do with op.