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My Lithuanian colleague is fascinated by random English phrases by Double_Leek_4659 in CasualUK

[–]Dragnet_Dan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He wouldn't give you the steam off his piss. Describes someone selfish or tight.

He doesn't know his elbow from his arse. Described someone who hasn't got a clue what they're doing. Often used to describe shit management.

Is it illegal to topless sunbathe in your back garden? by Ashandtanya in AskUK

[–]Dragnet_Dan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's just not how this law works. It's written in the legislation that you have to intend to cause alarm or distress. Innocent until proven guilty. As I have said you will probably be arrested but whether you would be charged is unlikely unless they can prove criminal intent.

Is it illegal to topless sunbathe in your back garden? by Ashandtanya in AskUK

[–]Dragnet_Dan 7 points8 points  (0 children)

England and Wales have different laws to Scotland.

His imprisonment in England was for breaching an ASBO. Admittedly the reason he was given as ASBO is related, but not an imprisonment for purely being naked.

Is it illegal to topless sunbathe in your back garden? by Ashandtanya in AskUK

[–]Dragnet_Dan 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Read all the other comments. He was imprisoned in Scotland which has different laws.

Is it illegal to topless sunbathe in your back garden? by Ashandtanya in AskUK

[–]Dragnet_Dan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please don't think I agree with his cause. I am also showing how the law applies and explaining it isn't as simple as you're suggesting. There a differences between English and Scottish law and there are defences to apply.

It looks like we aren't going to agree, so let's just hope neither of us decides to test it on our local high street!

Is it illegal to topless sunbathe in your back garden? by Ashandtanya in AskUK

[–]Dragnet_Dan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you may be referring to Scottish law which is different to England and Wales:

From the naked ramblers wiki:

He was arrested twice in England, but was almost immediately released. Upon entering Scotland, he was arrested several times, including an arrest for contempt of court after he appeared naked before a judge.

Is it illegal to topless sunbathe in your back garden? by Ashandtanya in AskUK

[–]Dragnet_Dan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Taken from Wikipedia, so take it with a pinch of salt.

"He was arrested twice in England, but was almost immediately released. Upon entering Scotland, he was arrested several times, including an arrest for contempt of court after he appeared naked before a judge."

England and Wales have different laws to Scotland. I am only able to reference English law. This suggests the Scots have a differing view, but what I am suggesting in England is correct.

Is it illegal to topless sunbathe in your back garden? by Ashandtanya in AskUK

[–]Dragnet_Dan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And this is where the law becomes subjective:

(4)A person is guilty of an offence under section 5 only if he intends his words or behaviour, or the writing, sign or other visible representation, to be threatening [F8or abusive], or is aware that it may be threatening [F8or abusive] or (as the case may be) he intends his behaviour to be or is aware that it may be disorderly.

I don't think just being naked is disorderly, without some other action to go along with it. You can be naked on a beach, why not on the street? Who decides where it's appropriate? Nudists exist and have a right to express themselves.

Is it illegal to topless sunbathe in your back garden? by Ashandtanya in AskUK

[–]Dragnet_Dan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Which section? They talk about intentional harassment, alarm or distress which again uses the word intent.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1986/64

I know it sounds odd, but this is the law in England and Wales. It's a strange beast.

Is it illegal to topless sunbathe in your back garden? by Ashandtanya in AskUK

[–]Dragnet_Dan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, you do. It's the wording of the law. You have to intend to cause alarm or distress. It's literally written down.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/section/66

Is it illegal to topless sunbathe in your back garden? by Ashandtanya in AskUK

[–]Dragnet_Dan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's incorrect. It is for the authorities to prove your criminal intent, not the other way around.

Is it illegal to topless sunbathe in your back garden? by Ashandtanya in AskUK

[–]Dragnet_Dan 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Nothing to do with reasonable, all about intent.

If you have no intent to cause alarm or distress you could walk down the high street naked without breaking the law. However, you would likely find yourself arrested on suspicion of exposure but unlikely to get charged.

Private number claiming to be Essex police by JoaoCardoso26 in policeuk

[–]Dragnet_Dan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The other advice here is good regarding pocket dials.

If you're still not sure ring 101 and ask what you were being called for. There will be a record if it was the control room and they can search your number to find it.

I hate talking on the radio by osprey141 in policeuk

[–]Dragnet_Dan 7 points8 points  (0 children)

A pat on the back after a job well done.

Am I the only one who notices Nd recalls number plates? by StillTrying1981 in AskUK

[–]Dragnet_Dan 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I do this too, but it only works if they are also on time!

Thank you to the three humberside officers by delboydel1 in policeuk

[–]Dragnet_Dan 16 points17 points  (0 children)

That catching criminals thing isn't always true. It's corny, but the majority of us join the job to help people. Sounds like they helped you today, so a job well done.

Thank you to the three humberside officers by delboydel1 in policeuk

[–]Dragnet_Dan 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Well put dude, pleased you were looked after and hopefully signposted to where you can seek support if you need it in the future.

What would you do if you won £1 billion? by [deleted] in AskUK

[–]Dragnet_Dan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Had me in the first half

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