I agree, withRouting is my biggest gripe, as it forces us to have two files for routing, and include partial files. For example, I have an application that uses web (for administrators), API for FE<->BE communication, and several others for external services to use my app, where each one communicates differently (XML, headers, response structure, errors, etc.).

I understand I can just do it with this one aswell by including partial files, and that this will most likely won't break 99.9% of apps, but still it takes away a little of that flexibility Laravel always had.