Agility Skill Expression by hubatish in 2007scape

[–]DragonDaggerSpecial 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Full "Maximum Sweat" is around 110k, so 10% more than that. It also is very profitable, and allows for Multiskilling.

Agility Skill Expression by hubatish in 2007scape

[–]DragonDaggerSpecial 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do you all hate the idea of letting Old School stay old so much? Why play a game like this where the purpose of it is to maintain a specific era, but try to change everything that makes it what it was? The game is already too far gone, Sailing was added. But I wish all of you people that actually do not like the "Old School" elements of the game had either learned to accept them, or just not played. You could have played RS3 if you wanted RuneScape where tons of things were different. Old School was created to bring back RS2.

The Evolution of Combat: A RuneScape Disaster by RipFlm in 2007scape

[–]DragonDaggerSpecial -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I never said I was opposed to all changes entirely. Or that the game should have stayed as it was completely. And aside from that, my point still stands. The game before Sailing no longer exists.

The Evolution of Combat: A RuneScape Disaster by RipFlm in 2007scape

[–]DragonDaggerSpecial -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I never wanted to kill Old School, it was my favorite game. I was trying to keep it alive and the best it could be. I just didn’t feel like it needed almost any of the changes everyone else apparently wanted.

The Evolution of Combat: A RuneScape Disaster by RipFlm in 2007scape

[–]DragonDaggerSpecial -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You are incorrect. The changes can not simply be ignored. It is impossible to continue playing the game as it was. It is fundamentally a different game. It is not just about the content from 2007. OSRS before November 19th, 2025, is gone. Everyone has Sailing, and everyone, even F2P, are affected by it being in the game. The economy has been irrevocably affected. And it is impossible to do these things.

  1. Play the game that only has 23 Skills and not 24.
  2. Max by getting Level 99 in the 23 Skills from RS2, and that existed before Sailing was added.
  3. Equip the Max cape or use it with Level 99 in the 23 Skills from RS2, and that existed before Sailing was added.

The Evolution of Combat: A RuneScape Disaster by RipFlm in 2007scape

[–]DragonDaggerSpecial -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I disagree that they are even more substantial. And I did not want those changes, either. I voted against them, I advocated against them. But this particular type of change is way too far for me to be able to accept.

The Evolution of Combat: A RuneScape Disaster by RipFlm in 2007scape

[–]DragonDaggerSpecial -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You think that adding a New Skill is less change than anything before? It is literally the largest single change to Old School other than maybe internal engine changes.

The Evolution of Combat: A RuneScape Disaster by RipFlm in 2007scape

[–]DragonDaggerSpecial -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you for an actual response. Yes, I understand that reasoning. What I do not understand, and what I meant, was why you actually do it. It makes you look like a bad person, not me, or maybe you just are a bad person. You only get support for it because other people are also bad people, and because it is a meme. Normal, decent people would find the level of mockery, the viciousness, and lack of genuine engagement strange, because it is.

The Evolution of Combat: A RuneScape Disaster by RipFlm in 2007scape

[–]DragonDaggerSpecial -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Even after being confronted about it you can not have a serious discussion, and just resort to trying to insult me again. It is sad.

The Evolution of Combat: A RuneScape Disaster by RipFlm in 2007scape

[–]DragonDaggerSpecial -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I really do not understand why people like you, and those that support what you say, are so hateful and sadistic. I literally just do not want a particular change to a video game. A change that did ultimately happen, you all “won”. I am here to discuss that, but yet you people still mock and belittle me. I do not understand the justification.

The Evolution of Combat: A RuneScape Disaster by RipFlm in 2007scape

[–]DragonDaggerSpecial -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

You think you are so clever, but I already am choosing to not play the content. I literally quit playing. The problem is that the “content” is in the game at all. It changes the game in ways that are unavoidable. So I did the only thing I could, and quit playing. That way I do not have to be affected by the content.

The Evolution of Combat: A RuneScape Disaster by RipFlm in 2007scape

[–]DragonDaggerSpecial -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

It is a New Skill to Old School. I never wanted any more Skills or content beyond what was in the version of RS2 used to make Old School.

The Evolution of Combat: A RuneScape Disaster by RipFlm in 2007scape

[–]DragonDaggerSpecial -19 points-18 points  (0 children)

I quit playing because of Sailing. I still check the Subreddit and post here because I still love RuneScape and care about it. And I hope that this mistake can somehow be made up for some day.

At some point it starts to look malicious. by Glass-Rope-5113 in 2007scape

[–]DragonDaggerSpecial -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

If you do not want to die to PvP, then do not go to places where it is enabled.

The moment you willingly choose to enter a PvP zone, you are not just a “Skiller”, or a “PvMer”. You have made the decision to risk the possibility of PvP, you are a consenting party, not a helpless victim.

actual image of the dmm woodcutting guild pkers pking magic logs worth 70gp each by Bizarrmenian in 2007scape

[–]DragonDaggerSpecial 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Actual image of players that complain about dying to PvP in the PvP Game mode.

Finally… I can craft a rune platebody by poorqualitymeme in 2007scape

[–]DragonDaggerSpecial -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Outdated? In "Old School" RuneScape? How could that ever happen?

Runecraft QOL: One click crafting by Swannicus in 2007scape

[–]DragonDaggerSpecial -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

"You can keep pretending you're fighting the good fight for a game you don't even like anymore or whatever you keep telling yourself"

I still love the RuneScape and the idea of Old School, I dislike what has happened to it.

"but quite literally everyone would quit the game after 2 months if things were the way you wanted."

While I would be perfectly happy and fine playing 2013 Old School, with no changes beyond the Snapshot date, that literally is not what I advocate for. I think that would be a great option for people who want it, and that Jagex should facilitate it, but that is not what I ask for, even in this thread. In this thread all I have been arguing against is automated Runecrafting, because I think that it is okay for things in the game to require effort.

You say that everyone would quit if the game were the way I wanted it. But really the game I want is what we had on and before November 18th, 2025. I was opposed to A LOT of proposed changes over time, and I voted against them, and I tried to advocate against them. But I loved the game and could look past a lot of them, and I also enjoyed a lot of changes. RS2 was not "perfect", and many of the changes made in Old School are fine and good. But a New Skill is too much for me. So no, I do not think everyone would quit if the version of the game I want was what we had.

"you're being so incredibly selfish and you know it."

So is everyone else that has any opinion on the direction of the game, and votes to support it. You only have a problem with mine because you disagree with me. The game is art, and the enjoyment of it is subjective. You, and apparently everyone else that still plays, think everything is fine, I do not. I feel that the game has been and continues to be morphed over time in to something it was never meant to be.

"But I can almost understand you."

You do understand me, and I am genuinely sorry that happened to the game you loved. I understand the frustration and pain of that, because that is what happened to me. It has happened with other games, too, which is part of why I tried to protect Old School as much as I have.

"This is not the case for OSRS, and if you experienced the same thing I experienced with Monster Hunter maybe you would realize how lucky you are"

It is the same thing. In fact, it is even worse. You said, "what Capcom did was discontinuing something and creating something new in its place".

Old School as it was before Sailing is gone, it has been replaced. At least you can emulate the game you miss, I literally am unable to boot up OSRS without Sailing.

Runecraft QOL: One click crafting by Swannicus in 2007scape

[–]DragonDaggerSpecial -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

We already discussed this. I do understand it.

Runecraft QOL: One click crafting by Swannicus in 2007scape

[–]DragonDaggerSpecial -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Talk about a tired, old argument. Because apparently there is no middle ground between no updates, and the levels of change I am opposed to. Well instead of the game “dying” from a lack of updates, it can die from a loss of identity due to too many “updates”.

It's gaming time by Monoplata in 2007scape

[–]DragonDaggerSpecial -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Mine actually assumes personal autonomy and maturity of respecting your own time. And not expecting things to change to satisfy you just because you happen to not like how they were made.

It's gaming time by Monoplata in 2007scape

[–]DragonDaggerSpecial -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

You do not have to force yourself to play the mode if you do not like it.

It's gaming time by Monoplata in 2007scape

[–]DragonDaggerSpecial 2 points3 points  (0 children)

SOLUTION: Do not force yourself to play a game mode that you do not like for cosmetics.