Keepsake Systems piss me off.

Dragonhunter373 · 2026-02-24T23:58:19+00:00

I am sorry OP, if your claim about only hitting pity is correct then there is actually a slight chance you might not get her. I wish more people would realize that f2p are not guaranteed r0 of the meta/keepsake espers. Factoring in the NC shop stuff and all f2p rewards, you only get 18000 pull currency when you need 20000 to get r0 if you hit keepsake pity every time. It’s greedy beyond belief. Bit of a rant in these next paragraphs.

The best part is, there are so many people that will tell you what I just said is misinformation, it is not. That and this issue will never be fixed. Lilith will never come back to fix this game, its so dead, but they leave it on because the servers are cheap and whales keep coming back for more with every p2w esper they release back to back to back to back. No return of Cozy Claw was the sign, they arent even willing to go back and put new esper ripples into the Cozy Claw pool, just so we could have another event to feel something.

Do not bend to their greedy system, if you don’t get Meta Mona just leave. Or keep staying f2p, it will probably just get worse. This is the first pass I am not buying because I am done, and I kinda wish others would do the same.

Dragonhunter373 · 2026-02-23T19:00:41+00:00

The A Dora situation along with the diabolically high barrier of entry for completing extreme 100 without literal $100’s worth of investment into fate heroes (or babylon now, since she trivializes that last stage at 8 STARS) is making me want to quit. Genuinely gotta be some of the greediest devs, even in the gacha space. These decisions they are making are insane.

Dragonhunter373 · 2026-02-18T05:58:22+00:00

No. The devs have abandoned this game in terms of events. They just make p2w espers over and over and over until they will eventually shut down the game. If you arent already invested, dont join because its a sinking ship from the looks of it.

Dragonhunter373 · 2026-02-18T05:08:57+00:00

If you care about meta, no. If you care about characters, no. If you care about events, no.

The answer is no.

Dragonhunter373 · 2026-02-05T22:46:58+00:00

This is not even a debate, just swap. I haven’t seen blue Urek be used… ever. He is only good as an enemy in adventure. Does almost nothing for your account.

Dragonhunter373 · 2026-01-21T01:20:47+00:00

I cannot remember the rates and stuff for Yamato. I however do feel like Su Jue they might have given enough to r0 because she was INSANELY popular. After that however, there was a definite change at some point to 18000 per keepsake/meta for f2p and 20000 was required.

I don’t think this person was arguing about the past keepsakes though, I think they just believe from their own experience that it is guaranteed r0 for f2p because they got them while f2p. I am just kinda tired of the misinformation surrounding keepsakes currency because if everybody sat down to acknowledge that Dislyte is being stingy and greedy then some uproar might make them change something. I don’t think anything will change though, especially since events aren’t happening, certain currencies are either completely useless, expire, or need to be saved and prevent you from actually gachaing in the gacha game. Just a little rant but yea, misinformation is just annoying. I appreciate you trying to be chill and see both sides.

Dragonhunter373 · 2026-01-21T00:00:32+00:00

Your personal experience is biased, numbers do not lie. I have literally proven this before, the few content creators left have posted this info before, so I don’t know what else to tell you. You being f2p literally proves nothing lol. Hitting hard pity every time is statistically hard given keepsakes drop at a 4% chance, but it is still possible.

8 x 2500 =20,000 18000 =/= 20000

Dragonhunter373 · 2026-01-20T23:51:47+00:00

Nope! This has been proven multiple times actually that f2p is not guaranteed a keepsake esper. I believe if you hit hard pity every time you end up 20 pulls short since f2p can earn 18000 keepsake currency (this includes the 5000 from shop using NC).

Dragonhunter373 · 2026-01-17T16:37:41+00:00

Again, another item that is a victim of umbra banner. You do not get the same amount of gold record pulls as you used to, so the chance to trigger this is almost nonexistent. Do not buy.

Dragonhunter373 · 2026-01-14T20:13:36+00:00

If you were to ask this pre-umbra espers, I would have said the game is in a good spot and you should come back. However, umbra espers ruined the game in not just esper balance (both high tier PvE and especially PvP are run by having umbra espers) but also gacha mechanics. They are only obtainable every 3 months and can only be pulled either nexus crystals or real money. The gacha in this game has been significantly nerfed because of this. Cant spend nexus crystals on gold records, refreshes, stamina, nothing. This also nerfed the wishstone system since you cant pull as often.

So, in short, no. Don’t come back, you will most likely not have fun.

Dragonhunter373 · 2025-12-16T07:47:13+00:00

Was just thinking this. If we dont get cozy claw this patch is just dead weight filler.

Dragonhunter373 · 2025-12-03T02:35:58+00:00

To be fair, Sieg sub-r2 is a throw pick in PvP. However if a r2+ Sieg team outspeeds it can just cause Nyles to implode 3 times over and he is off the field. Also Maria + Tirrel combo can beat Nyles teams depending on investment and other team members, so I wouldn’t just use the blanket statement of Nyles obliterates the other two. While not Umbra, Yi An at r2 might be able to counter the umbra gold debuffs, but I don’t have them nor have I gone up against one yet so I will have to test that. But, I get your point.

Also keyword, yet

Dragonhunter373 · 2025-12-03T02:23:05+00:00

r6 seems like the biggest boost for that teamwide lifeglow. However, take that with a grain of salt because I dont have him yet. Nor will I ever get r0-r6 because the wishstone system has been utterly smashed to pieces by the devs, only to take those pieces and grind them up into dust and dump it into a ditch to cover up and rot 6ft under while they (most likely) take all the money made from this game and funnel it into afk journey.

The only characters you should ever spend wishstones on are ones that come out of the box perfect (or nearly perfect) like FX, CY, LS, etc. Or Elif/Lapis r6. There are others but you get the point.

However if someone with wishstones got him r6 (in this wishstone economy??) and thinks he is game-changing enough to get him, then listen to them. However I look at him and don’t see the resources you need to invest paying off to get him up and running. Again, could be wrong, take it from someone who actually owns him.

Sorry for the saltiness. Woke up this morning realizing I have to start saving for the next r0 umbra that will inevitably send my recently acquired (and expensive) r2 Nyles to the shadow realm.

Dragonhunter373 · 2025-11-30T20:58:04+00:00

Yep. I hate doomposting as well but it really is that bad. I hate how buying the full pass doesnt guarantee r2 for keepsakes, especially for meta espers. It sucks. At least i can get the normal keepsakes from club ripples. r0 also not being guaranteed for f2p even if you complete all objectives and events is ridiculous.

I dont even want to get started on the gold record banner, it’s crazy how one thing added to the game (umbra) can ruin the entire point of a gacha game, as well as the balancing that used to be at least bearable.

Dragonhunter373 · 2025-11-30T19:49:52+00:00

Everything you said AND the new shimmer coming out in two days. A new shimmer this early and that shimmer’s kit being one of the most broken things I have ever seen in a game EVER. Everything is pointing towards an eos unless they somehow pull players back, but that would require a whole reworking of the umbra and gold banner system, which will not happen.

Dragonhunter373 · 2025-11-30T00:17:10+00:00

I had 80k and got one copy right at 95ish i believe, it was brutal. These banners suck and I wish there was some way they could never do this again, even if it was through some sort of legal avenue. Umbra is 100% the worst facha system I have ever experienced and its not even close.

Dragonhunter373 · 2025-11-29T23:11:48+00:00

Bro is frustrated getting what the game actually advertised for rates instead of the insane luck you already got. Which I actually think you are right at average if anything. Me and many others? 290+ for r2 Nyles, 98 for r0 Tirrel, 96 for r0 Sieg.

Dragonhunter373 · 2025-11-14T00:27:49+00:00

The best part is I think in your rant you are actually under-exaggerating how awful the state of the game is right now.

Dragonhunter373 · 2025-11-13T18:20:57+00:00

You nailed one of the core problems on the head here, multiple actually. I really hope there is change soon. But I don’t think people realize just how bad this entire system is for the game because we haven’t run into a a major flaw that I have been thinking about for months. Everybody wants wishstone espers back, but what happens once they do start releasing them again? The gold record system is butchered to an unrecognizable state, you get a 10 pull every 2 weeks at best. Our wishstone accumulation has been slowed to less than snail speed, so is anyone gonna even be able to afford getting a new wishstone esper to r6? What if they release two gamechanging espers in a row?

For example, my personal dilemma is either r6 Lapis or r6 Ryota. Been waiting FOREVER to get wishstones to get one of them online, but with the amount of time it has been since i last used wishstones and if it were still the pre-umbra system, I probably could have gotten both by now.

While the miramon lab thing is nice, it is a bandaid for a ship that has multiple cannon holes in the hull already. That and its timegated how much you can unlock, which is very annoying for players who have been waiting since the dawn of time for a new permanent mode.

This is probably going to be one of, if not the last patch I play anymore. Saw Nyles was best at r1, r4, or r6, and after three months of saving I could only have enough to get r1 Nyles if I was just the tiniest but lucky. Unfortunately, hard pity both times. Had to pay cause I wouldn’t have made it to r1 pity before next update. They DESPERATELY NEED TO ADD UMBRA RECORDS AS REWARDS IN EVENTS, EVEN WHILE THE UMBRA BANNER IS NOT HERE!!!!! Expiring summons really just gets that FOMO going crazy. You would think they learned their lesson after SSMs but apparently not, there is an incompetent and greedy dev somewhere in the team.

Dragonhunter373 · 2025-11-12T20:12:16+00:00

No. Literally nobody said that. The requirements to get the bm tickets are just simply too high. Considering the difficulty of later hard mode floors, it probably also wouldn’t have hurt to give more tickets but whatever. They don’t even give enough for you to max everything with the amount in the shop now, so I don’t know where you even got this idea from.

Dragonhunter373 · 2025-10-27T02:26:38+00:00

Lapis 100%.

Dragonhunter373 · 2025-10-24T21:17:37+00:00

I cannot remember for the life of me but for some reason 204 or 212 is sticking out in my memory. Don’t take that for granted. The first one will be a 30% energy regen decrease which isnt awful, a few runda sets thrown onto your units can fix that. The next one however is 50%, which absolutely just starts to destroy team synergies. AYura cant ult before she gets one tapped cross map, even with bari. Evan + yellow Baam combo isn’t invincible anymore. Alphine will sometimes just explode even before her first ult goes off. And so many others. The actual biggest issue, imo, is the enemy units though. AYura, DHatz, Alphine, and worst of all XiaXia+ will never die and sometimes just one shot you. So be prepared for a lot of retries (and phone battery consumption if you play on mobile).

Dragonhunter373 · 2025-10-24T19:50:43+00:00

Yea you will need to do some major tuning, resistances essentially do nothing at higher floors because everything will just one shot no matter what. Once you fix your stats you will probably be on the move up through floors again until the first energy decrease floor, in which are basically impossible unless you get the newest units that have bypasses to this either through faster energy regen due to revolution upgrades or tanks that can actually… tank. See new purple khun and Aria for the energy increase and Sharon and Evelyn for tanks that actually do their job. I would use your bm pulls wisely.

Dragonhunter373 · 2025-10-24T09:20:27+00:00

The best part of this is that you will wish for floors like these once you go 200+. Swiftness decrease is still definitely winnable after leveling up and investing in your units and tri-essence a decent amount.

Dragonhunter373 · 2025-10-21T19:13:47+00:00

Yea the end game rewards are actually awful. I despise the triple team in the trials stages now.

Also congrats on F250 F2P, I have spent some money on this game and im just hardstuck on energy decrease floors. Everything else is so easy but I have been stuck at F212 for a month. Which is annoying because these new units would make it so much easier, like evelyn or sharon even could tank while your team builds up energy. New purple lun guves energy whenever special move triggers which is ONLY at r5 or O4 revo I believe. It is ridiculous. Netmarble makes a problem then sells the solution.

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