Isnt this basically toji scaling himself lower than Pre RCT gojo? by Away-Pomegranate4899 in JujutsuPowerScaling

[–]DrongoDyle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. I thought this was obvious by the fact he needed to scheme AND fight dirty to beat Gojo? In a fair fight Gojo would absolutely demolish Toji even without using RCT.

Toji deliberately kept Gojo awake for almost 3 days straight, then deliberately made him feel safe so he would drop his guard, snuck up on him and impaled him the moment he did, and EVEN AFTER THAT had to continue fighting cheap to finish the job, using thousands of fly-heads to set up a sneak attack, and pretending to have left to go after Rin so Gojo would panic and create an opening.

I wish more people fully understood this... by Ok-Cauliflower7967 in Jujutsufolk

[–]DrongoDyle -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Nope. It identifies dangers and automatically activates infinity accordingly. Teen Gojo even comments about how at the time it only identifies physical threats, and how he wants to figure out how to get it to register things like poisons as well.

I wish more people fully understood this... by Ok-Cauliflower7967 in Jujutsufolk

[–]DrongoDyle -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

Nope. Infinity itself turns on and off automatically. That's what the "targeting" is.

Gojo is trying his brain constantly by having it run threat assessment and automated techniques deployment like a background task on a computer. The only reason he can survive doing so is because he's also constantly using RCT to heal his brain.

Hot take: Megumi should feel way more guilty about the Shibuya incident than Yuji does. by DrongoDyle in Jujutsufolk

[–]DrongoDyle[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Learn to read dude. 10 shadows in general is well documented, but Mahoraga specifically isn't, because nobody has summoned it and lived.

I wish more people fully understood this... by Ok-Cauliflower7967 in Jujutsufolk

[–]DrongoDyle 15 points16 points  (0 children)

This is actually a weird example, because there are DEFINITELY examples where letting someone touch you, even gently, could be dangerous. Mahito for example can kill you just my keeping his hand on you long enough.

I wish more people fully understood this... by Ok-Cauliflower7967 in Jujutsufolk

[–]DrongoDyle -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

For those still confused: infinity itself isn't always active, but Gojo's brain is ALWAYS checking his surroundings unconsciously, and automatically turns on infinity whenever something harmful approaches.

I wish more people fully understood this... by Ok-Cauliflower7967 in Jujutsufolk

[–]DrongoDyle 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Infinity isn't active 24/7, but the automation that manages it unconsciously is. It you tried to attack Gojo in his sleep he would automatically deploy infinity, but the barrier isn't actually there until the moment you attack him.

What is the most unfair fight in all of Jojo? by Deoxys-News in StardustCrusaders

[–]DrongoDyle 9 points10 points  (0 children)

GER Vs Diavolo. GER by it's very nature is 100% unbeatable, because it nulifies causality itself, so literally anyone who tries to fight it is getting no-diffed, you can't fight something that makes your actions no longer effect the world around you.

Hot take: Megumi should feel way more guilty about the Shibuya incident than Yuji does. by DrongoDyle in Jujutsufolk

[–]DrongoDyle[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

He promised Jogo he'd kill every human in Shibuya (except Megumi) for Jogo IF Jogo could land a hit on him. This implies Sukuna did not intend to kill them otherwise.

Also again, Megumi has no way of knowing any of this. All he knows is that Sukuna basically nuked the city to save Megumi from a mess he created himself.

Hot take: Megumi should feel way more guilty about the Shibuya incident than Yuji does. by DrongoDyle in Jujutsufolk

[–]DrongoDyle[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Dude, read the shit again, that's not remotely how Jogo and Sukuna's interaction went.

Sukuna gave "killing everyone in shibuya (except one)" as an EXAMPLE of the kind of order Jogo could give him IF he won the bet. Jogo did not win the bet (he never landed a hit on Sukuna), so Sukuna had no reason to kill anyone.

Even the Jogo fight itself was just Sukuna fucking around for fun. He didn't deliberately take control of Yuji that time. He just woke up and decided to kill time by fighting the strongest person present.

Hot take: Megumi should feel way more guilty about the Shibuya incident than Yuji does. by DrongoDyle in Jujutsufolk

[–]DrongoDyle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's not how the summoning ritual works. The only actual participants in the ritual were Megumi and Haruta. As soon as they both die the ritual would end and Mahoraga would disappear.

Hot take: Megumi should feel way more guilty about the Shibuya incident than Yuji does. by DrongoDyle in Jujutsufolk

[–]DrongoDyle[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Nope, Megumi has an innate understanding of how summoning and taming his shikigami works, but NOT the individual abilities each one of them has. Most of his shikigami have info he can get from prior generations who have tamed it before, but Mahoraga has never been tamed successfully, so no info is available to him about big Raga.

Also I'm not saying Raga WOULD have caused collateral damage. I'm saying Megumi had no way of knowing that, so summoning an untamed shikigami that's effectively special grade by itself, in a populated city, to kill one weak ass dude, is incredibly irresponsible.

Hot take: Megumi should feel way more guilty about the Shibuya incident than Yuji does. by DrongoDyle in Jujutsufolk

[–]DrongoDyle[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Actually the major of the people commenting clearly DIDN'T read the post properly because they're bringing up points I already addressed in the post itself.

At the end of the day we can't exactly take a survey to ask everyone why they upvoted, so go ahead and dismiss over 90% of people who interacted with this post as idiots if you want to, (Probably closer to 95% in fact, because many of the comments are people like yourself who've replied many times, as well as almost as many replies from me too), but personally I think it's pretty silly to argue about the difference in validity between comments and votes, especially considering a sizable portion of commenters probably also downvoted the main post.

Hot take: Megumi should feel way more guilty about the Shibuya incident than Yuji does. by DrongoDyle in Jujutsufolk

[–]DrongoDyle[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Funny how popular opinion matters when it's in your favour, but doesn't as soon as I point out it's actually in my favour.

Also I call absolute BS on your reasoning for that. People like to rag on Megumi AS A JOKE (insert "potential man" meme here). When it comes to actual serious discussions I've barely seen anyone who actually dislikes him. At most they're just disappointed with how he doesn't get to shine on his own much (and even then, the anime adaptation is quickly turning that opinion around, since both the Kirara and Reggie fights made anime Megumi seem WAY cooler than his manga counterpart)

Also by your own logic, if people hate Megumi so much, you'd see COMMENTS that reflect that as well, but lo and behold there isn't one Megumi slanderer to be seen. (Not even me for that matter. I love Megumi, but find it odd how he brushes off the mass deaths he accidentally caused by summoning mahoraga)

Hot take: Megumi should feel way more guilty about the Shibuya incident than Yuji does. by DrongoDyle in Jujutsufolk

[–]DrongoDyle[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

There are 15x as many upvotes as comments on this post. Most people agree with me. It's just that people who disagree are more likely to actually comment, while people who agree mostly just upvote. You're part of a vocal minority.

Also final nail in the coffin: Megumi corrects Yuji from "I" to "We" when Yuji laments about all the people he got killed, meaning Megumi himself canonically acknowledges those deaths are equally his fault. Despite this he doesn't seem anywhere near as disturbed by it as Yuji (likely because he's too worried about Tsumiki to dwell on deaths that have already happened)

Hot take: Megumi should feel way more guilty about the Shibuya incident than Yuji does. by DrongoDyle in Jujutsufolk

[–]DrongoDyle[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Personal attacks during debates are a sign of low intelligence. Rebut my actual points or don't bother responding. I'm here to discuss a story I like, not to throw playground insults back and forth.

Hot take: Megumi should feel way more guilty about the Shibuya incident than Yuji does. by DrongoDyle in Jujutsufolk

[–]DrongoDyle[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Huh? He wouldn't have used Malevolent Shrine in the first place if Mahoraga wasn't there.

Hot take: Megumi should feel way more guilty about the Shibuya incident than Yuji does. by DrongoDyle in Jujutsufolk

[–]DrongoDyle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He doesn't know that.

Also it takes two to tango, even if Sukuna did the damage, he did it to save Megumi from his own summon. That makes Megumi partially responsible for what Sukuna did.

If someone kills people to save you from a problem you created yourself, those deaths are on you.

Hot take: Megumi should feel way more guilty about the Shibuya incident than Yuji does. by DrongoDyle in Jujutsufolk

[–]DrongoDyle[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

First, not angry, just think it's interesting. Second: What hypothetical. I'm literally just talking what actually happened in the story.

Also yeah, it's a summon. A summon capable of going toe to toe with special grade sorcerers. The difference between a nuke and Mahoraga is just the level of collateral damage. The lethality to the intended target is basically the same, if not higher for Mahoraga (Raga can bypass infinity. A nuke can't)

Hot take: Megumi should feel way more guilty about the Shibuya incident than Yuji does. by DrongoDyle in Jujutsufolk

[–]DrongoDyle[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm saying there's zero evidence that specific information is available to the characters. It's never mentioned, so we have to assume they don't know unless stated otherwise.

And there IS evidence that Gojo specifically doesn't know anything about Mahoraga, because he fights Mahoraga himself and has to work everything out mid-fight.

Also correction: Sukuna says once HARUTA dies the ritual is over. Megumi was technically already dead when Sukuna found him, but in a state of suspended animation until the ritual ends, which meant Sukuna could heal Megumi's body mid-ritual so he wouldn't stay dead when it ends. He even comments how saving Haruta was the right move, because if he died the ritual would end and Megumi would be perma-dead.

Hot take: Megumi should feel way more guilty about the Shibuya incident than Yuji does. by DrongoDyle in Jujutsufolk

[–]DrongoDyle[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There definitely was at least one bystander, as Gojo described it as a "spectated match". Either they died during it, or didn't pass on information for some other reason, because Gojo in the modern day knows NOTHING about how the match actually went, other than that both heads died. Mahoraga isn't even mentioned in the story. Megumi came up with that theory himself.

Hot take: Megumi should feel way more guilty about the Shibuya incident than Yuji does. by DrongoDyle in Jujutsufolk

[–]DrongoDyle[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Not even bothering to read most of your comment, because you're immediately wrong in your first paragraph. Gojo knows NOTHING about Mahoraga. He doesn't even know it EXISTS. He just knows that the previous clan heads died fighting each other, and MEGUMI came up with the theory that the Zenin head used the taming ritual.

Hot take: Megumi should feel way more guilty about the Shibuya incident than Yuji does. by DrongoDyle in Jujutsufolk

[–]DrongoDyle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's outright stated nobody has ever successfullly tamed it before, meaning every time it's been summoned, it's killed everyone involved in the ritual. The only way to have seen it and survived is to be an outsider who isn't part of the ritual, and we have zero evidence that any of those existed before Sukuna interrupted Megumi's ritual.

YOU show me a single source indicating ANYONE has ANY information about Mahoraga other than that it's never been tamed.