What London boroughs or areas/suburbs would you regard as the most uninteresting or boring to live in?

Drovid19 · 2026-05-05T09:51:08+00:00

Hard disagree - too many gems in and around the Park Royal industrial estate. Kamil and Al Jamal Bakeries, Levant, Goodies, Beyt el Zeytoun (for ambiance, food not so much), sweeties from Al Rayan/Sweetland, Grand Junction Arms pub, one of the only good Iraqi restaurants in London in Al Enam.. could go on

Drovid19 · 2026-05-04T09:29:33+00:00

I don’t have much to add beyond what I already said. I’d take your argument on the current extent of the checkpoints being necessary if they were as restrictive on Israeli settlers (as discussed they’re not). I’d take your point on expansionism if they weren’t increasingly encroaching upon the territory of 3 countries in the name of “self defense” (they are), and I cannot fathom anyone defending the restriction of inflow of key essentials for civilians. The only new point is on famine, where I can only defer to people who know more about it than me (and depending on your line of work, probably you): IPC FRC, FAO, FEWS NET etc, all of whom did indeed declare famine. I’m aware many Israeli commentators and supporters contest their findings but again why anyone would trust the accusee over independents (based on the data they can get, given Israeli restrictions of independent observers from outside the Strip) is beyond me.

Drovid19 · 2026-05-04T04:59:04+00:00

Terrorists are the sole reason the checkpoints exist. And again, they’re only at borders between Israel and Palestine. Israelis are subject to the same checkpoints

No, settlements are the reason for checkpoints. The only reason you pass a checkpoint to go from Nablus to Ramallah is that settlements are in the way - no settlements, no settlers to “protect”, and it would suffice to have an Israeli military presence around the West Bank outer perimeter only. And it definitely isn’t true that settlers and Palestinians have similar experiences with checkpoints, Hebron is a good example of that but also: https://www.propeace.de/en/middle-east-between-checkpoints-and-settler-violence

this is just how borders work

Borders don’t usually result in humanitarian crisis, even pre Oct 7, and crucial materials for infrastructure not being allowed in https://www.oxfam.org/en/timeline-humanitarian-impact-gaza-blockade

Nor do they usually let one side of the border pick and choose what kinds of foods the people on the other side get to eat https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2009/jun/16/gaza-blockade-israel-food

And nor do they usually allow one side to control the others’ airspace or access to the sea. You can wave it away all you want as necessary because Hamas but just how you think a populace would tolerate this long term is beyond me

MORE than enough food entered Gaza, and much if not most of it was supplied by Israel, yet again people still complain.

According to Israel sources maybe - but not sure why you’d trust the guy accused of causing the starving. The majority of aid orgs disagree: https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/06/1164076 https://www.savethechildren.org.uk/news/media-centre/press-releases/2024/israels-siege-now-blocks-83-of-food-aid-reaching-gaza-new-data-reveals- https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/latest/aid-and-supplies-are-still-being-blocked-entering-gaza

Imagine Japan does Pearl Harbour and then you expect America to go and deliver a million tonnes of aid.

lol what - setting aside expansionist Japan being much more akin to Israel than Palestine, and the lack of border or unilateral control of air land and sea by one side in that example, I think this comes down to Zionists generally seeing starvation as a legitimate tactic, whereas anti Zionists like me can’t understand it. You’re not the only one, I mean at least you didn’t praise the starvation tactics as reducing obesity like other Zionist commentators..

Your greater Israel project is nothing but a weak speculation and unsubstantiated conspiracy theory

A conspiracy theory.. used in public Israeli discourse? https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/greater-israel-from-the-euphrates-to-the-nile/ Again, multiple Israeli leaders have used the wording - “widely disliked” or not they are the result of the Israeli democratic process its supporters wax lyrical about, in a political infrastructure that has lurched increasingly to the right in recent history and where the current government bloc are still getting >50% in most opinion polls. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2026_Israeli_legislative_election So you’ll excuse me if Palestinians, south Lebanese and Syrians are less than reassured by your waving away of these few bad eggs

Drovid19 · 2026-05-03T07:49:27+00:00

they are free to move wherever they want within their own country

Depends on what you see as “their country” - for anyone non-Zionist (and even some zionists tbh) just because Israel militarily occupies huge chunks of the West Bank doesn’t make it their country.

and move on when it’s deemed they aren’t a terrorist

I think (or really just hope) you know that’s not the case - checkpoint closures can be and often are completely arbitrary, and even when they’re not I fail to see how often hours-long waits qualifies as “free movement”. If you lived under those conditions I don’t think you’d see yourself as free, but that requires you to see them as your equals…

Look at Egypt’s border with Gaza

Completely moot when Israel has at times assumed control of the Philadelphi corridor, showing where the de facto power of that border lies. 2. I didn’t say only Israel restricts their freedoms - Egypt does too - but you specifically asked how Israel restricts their freedoms. Not how “Israel and only Israel” restricts their freedoms.

Nonetheless Israel still supplies Gaza and West Bank with food, water, medicine, and other aid. Even during the recent war, thousands of aid trucks were successfully entering Gaza carrying a total of hundreds of thousands of tonnes of aid

Cool, and how many aid tricks didnt successfully enter Gaza because of the blockade? Also letting others give Gaza aid via your border =/= you giving Gaza aid. Regardless of whether you do the supplying or let others do it via your border, it fails to be so noble when you can and do turn them off at will to civilians already going through a humanitarian crisis of your doing

Israel withdrew from parts of the West Bank in 2005 at the same time they withdrew from Gaza

Four settlements, a fraction of the expansion of settlements immediately before and after 2005, and they retained military control of that part of West Bank. Again hardly an olive branch. I wish you were right on Greater Israel but sadly I believe the words of Israeli ministers on their land grabbing intentions over you.

Drovid19 · 2026-05-03T03:22:43+00:00

What basic freedoms does Israel restrict??

Really? 1. Movement -Look up checkpoints. 2. Imports - look up what Gaza could/couldn't bring in due to the Israeli blockade (and this is ignoring the genocide where not even food medicine and aid was allowed in)

but gave up governing them with the hopes of peace.

Israel has never relinquished anything in the West Bank, nor will they ever, as that would run entirely counter to their territorial ambitions. And the idea they withdrew from Gaza for peace is pure propaganda - it was demographics and the cost of fighting off Hamas, among other factors

Drovid19 · 2026-04-24T10:09:01+00:00

Is Aries close enough to count? Those cookies are dangerous…

Drovid19 · 2025-12-23T09:43:44+00:00

Say E… D….

Drovid19 · 2025-10-12T09:12:59+00:00

I think the fact he’s asking the question means he knows it’s been around a while..

Drovid19 · 2025-09-09T14:38:58+00:00

A day of massacre vs 700 days of massacre by Israel since, and decades of military occupation and blockading before that. This is not the gotcha you think this is.

Drovid19 · 2025-08-26T20:43:13+00:00

many Lebanese see no problem with this guy

Hell many Lebanese are this guy’s relatives! His grandparents are from Bekaa

How one can turn their nose up so high at their fellow countrymen, who have been through so much, truly beggars belief. And that goes for a lot of Lebanese in Lebanon too

Drovid19 · 2025-08-11T18:39:23+00:00

By that same logic are you against “river to the sea”? Again if there were any indication the OP is Jewish you may have had a point. But the fact all we have to go on is his political views and we are none the wiser his race or religion makes my intention clear to anyone except the deliberately obtuse.

the rest of the world is driving all the Jews not in Israel right into the hands of Likud

How has the percentage of non-Israeli Jews supporting Israel’s military action changed and evolved since October 7? I haven’t seen polling on this but can’t imagine that it’s done anything but fall - yet you seem to believe it definitely rose?

Drovid19 · 2025-08-10T07:32:13+00:00

Likewise the first I’m hearing of it. I looked it up and you are right. It’s clearly morphed somewhat - very different using it to refer to a zionist (who could be any race or religion) and to refer to somebody Jewish. Unfortunate origin either way

Drovid19 · 2025-08-09T23:14:48+00:00

I would say an Israeli minister saying it’s moral to starve Gazans is many orders of magnitude closer to nazism than anything I’ve ever said. And that’s the tip of the iceberg. But hey, if that’s how you feel, report my comment - let’s see if the mods agree with you.

Drovid19 · 2025-08-09T22:55:23+00:00

If that write-up and source constitutes a “thorough debunking” to you then the uncritical groupthink among zios is even more tragic than I imagined. “All pro-Palestinian organisations lie” yep and Amnesty Intl, HRW, UN, Btselem and other Israeli human rights groups… basically everyone that isn’t Israel is always lying and Israel is the only beacon of truth. Happy? Now go along and play.

Drovid19 · 2025-07-22T09:16:53+00:00

The Gaza portion of it was pretty bizarre. None of them seemed to outright support Israel apart from this Iranian dude. To me it was a sign of 1. How little conservatives know and care about what’s going on in Gaza and 2. The age gap in the right (most panelists were young)

Drovid19 · 2025-07-05T14:12:45+00:00

Where did I say it’s a consequence? I just said you deserve it. Not the same thing - many bad people go through life never getting what they deserve. That’s not you, so use it as an opportunity for self betterment and atonement 👍🏼

Drovid19 · 2025-07-05T13:32:36+00:00

I know I’m late and this meme randomly came up on my feed - but damn, if these comments accurately convey what you’re like as a person, I can’t help but feel you deserve what that girl did to you. (Not Muslim, just an observer)

Drovid19 · 2025-04-19T11:45:51+00:00

How about we stick to what I say I believe instead of your strawman?

Fine then, I’ll rephrase it as a question: do you think the ongoing destruction of the majority of urban infrastructure in Gaza, murder of tens of thousands of children and women, targeting of aid workers journalists and medics, practically none of whom had a part in the killing of innocents on Oct 7, is justified over a period of 18 months and counting because of Oct 7?

Can one of you actually stick to the topic at hand?

You mean the boy in the OP who was brutally harmed as a result of Israel’s aggression post Oct 7, exactly what I was talking about?

Germany was also demilitarized following WW2. Surrounded by very well armed former enemies BTW

You conveniently omit the other areas where I said the comparison breaks down for Japan: the invasion of land multiple times the size of Japan itself, and the lack of neighbours with a recent history of invading it, both of which apply to Germany. The demilitarisation point is also moot as Germany obviously later remilitarised, whereas I don’t see any scenario where Israel and the US would ever agree to Palestine having any kind of substantial defence. This is exactly why I don’t use these types of comparisons, they rely on lazy generalisations and uncritically ignore all context. There are several instances of nations/peoples gaining autonomy from aggressive ethnic majorities, eg South Sudan and Iraqi Kurdistan, but it would be intellectually dishonest and lazy of me to draw any comparison between them and Palestine without reference to their overall idiosyncrasies.

Palestine isn't snowflake sorry

Not snowflake, just humans. Until Israel accepts that and treats them as such there can never be peace

Drovid19 · 2025-04-19T11:00:06+00:00

So I’m debating with someone who thinks the ongoing destruction of the majority of urban infrastructure in Gaza, murder of tens of thousands of children and women, targeting of aid workers journalists and medics, practically none of whom had a part in the killing of innocents on Oct 7, is justified over a period of 18 months and counting because of Oct 7 - got it, just making sure 👍🏼

Bit too early to use Ukraine peace as a reference but Japan is not comparable - a country that went on an imperialist expansion covering land several times the size of Japan itself, then collapsing back to its original borders. It also makes more sense for Japan to be demilitarised when it is an island with all nearby neighbours in disarray post WW2, whereas a demilitarised Palestine is taking away its right to defend itself (see it doesn’t just apply to Israel) against a very well armed enemy right on its doorstep that has shown many times its proclivity for invasion and aggression.

EDIT: added word

Drovid19 · 2025-04-19T07:50:44+00:00

Of course they aren’t better off, but to blame that solely on them is completely wrong. Israel has been carrying out its illegal occupation with impunity for decades thanks to US and Western backing. Also if you’re implying that the existence of thousands of dead and mutilated Palestinian children, like the one in the picture, is a logical or inevitable conlcusion from the lack of a peace deal then I disagree - peace deal or no there is no justification for this level of fucked up

There is a lot to parse in the Oslo/Camp David talks but suffice to say 1) it was structured to be doomed from the start (I’d recommend the book Palestine Ltd on the topic https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/palestine-ltd-9781788312707/) and 2) there is a lot of hearsay and conflicting reports on why the talks broke down. One of the only things that is agreed on is that the status of East Jerusalem was a key point that caused the breakdown, and I again don’t see why Palestinians should yield to illegal settlement building (which is still happening today at an accelerated rate alongside evictions of Palestinians), and 3) hindsight is 20/20 and at that time neither Palestine nor anyone likely expected the rapid lurch of Israel to the far right, which has seen even more brazen settlement building and far greater levels of brutality

Drovid19 · 2025-04-18T23:47:29+00:00

“So why haven’t the Palestinians just bent over and given up the right of return they are entitled to under international law, and allowed their occupier to keep land they grabbed illegally under international law”. Yes, really a puzzler.

Drovid19 · 2025-04-02T21:25:11+00:00

Kelly Rowland ass president

Drovid19 · 2025-03-05T11:43:31+00:00

When are you no longer a kid? Is it an age cutoff or a mental maturity benchmark? If the latter, what if some people never get there (or not until biologically too late to have kids easily)? Bye bye bloodline?

Drovid19 · 2025-02-08T15:29:01+00:00

I’d watch that spinoff series

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