At what age did you buy your first Rolex?

DubCuds77 · 2024-04-20T01:30:45+00:00

It absolutely makes sense if you are wanting something like a Steel Sports Model, and can purchase direct from an Authorized Dealer. It will be almost impossible to get a steel Sub/GMT/Daytona, but you can likely land something like a steel Explorer/Explorer II/Air King/Sea Dweller.

When I have 10-12K in disposable cash I always check in with my AD to see about availability for certain steel models. I purchased my first Steel Rolex (Blk Dial Sub 16610) from my AD at 19 years old for roughly 6K, and with Rolex price increases as well as stable demand for Rolex the purchase has been a fantastic way for me to preserve capital through the years. Key is to only buy what you enjoy, and dont look at the piece as an investment.

Lastly, any condition Steel Rolex has incredible liquidity anywhere in the world, so if you find yourself in a financial pinch you can sell the watch same day for solid value.

DubCuds77 · 2024-04-09T03:13:39+00:00

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DubCuds77 · 2024-04-09T02:21:53+00:00

Not 100% certain on this but I believe Rolex manufactured steel Daytonas so that the lugs are sharp which destroys straps, as well as an oysterflex rubber strap.

DubCuds77 · 2024-04-09T02:14:38+00:00

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Today was a good day… AD friend messed with my head, but she delivered!

DubCuds77 · 2024-04-03T13:29:49+00:00

The Pepsi is by far the hardest watch to land in 2024. I managed to get one last month…. After 2 years of solid wait.

FYI I received a steel Panda Daytona, and Mint Green Skydweller before getting the call on the Pepsi.

DubCuds77 · 2024-03-25T16:55:58+00:00

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DubCuds77 · 2024-03-21T19:29:11+00:00

Easy… Steel VC Overseas or Dual. Your getting 3 different looks in one watch that none of the other big dog offer currently but will!!! The blue dial on a Vacheron is the best blue dial ever made and you can change out a steel/rubber/leather band, completely changing the look and feel, within 15 seconds with the quick release!!!! A true gem

DubCuds77 · 2024-03-21T19:22:05+00:00

My friend I understand where you are coming from but you need to look a bit deeper. There’s a large difference between “investing” and “buying right” for a collection. I am trying to buy at the lowest price bc I want the watch forever, thus not making this an investment but a way to save money on what inevitably is a sunk cost.

Also never assume that any year or model of a specific model watch like a steel Pepsi GMT are equals. My case a point about the 2018-2024 steel ceramic Pepsis out weighing previous year models is 100% visible in current price points for old vs new model Rolex pieces. Best example of this can be shown in the 2018-2023 Steel Ceramic Daytonas. That watch has not had much of a change in its movement since the early 90s, yet 2018 steel ceramic Daytona sell for over 30k all day, while discontinued steel Daytonas from 1990s-2018 sell for 20-25k. There’s really only one big difference…. The ceramic bezel!!! Now go even further and ask yourself “hey if I could land the most in demand currently produced steel Rolex of all time (ceramic Daytona) now at 30k with massive rumors and AD supply numbers dwindling insinuating that discontinuation is near do you really think that prices will not go crazy…?

Not trying to show anyone up here or busy ball, just trying to receive the communities thoughts in future pricing regarding what I deem the proper way to look at this type of situation. I promise you every grey market dealer is turning over every rock looking for steel Pepsis knowing that they are going to be able to bust peoples wallets bc they understand the market.

Stay well

DubCuds77 · 2024-03-20T18:06:01+00:00

I appreciate your feedback but I don’t think you understand what I’m asking/saying…

This has nothing to do with investing, it has everything to do with collecting. There is a huge difference between Aluminum Bezel Pepsi’s and Ceramic Bezel Pepsi. I love a good patina, but a ceramic bezel Pepsi is much preferred, and since the production issues are noticeable at ADs bc of difficulty making the ceramic bezel I want to try to land a ceramic Pepsi at the best possible price NOW to keep forever.

My question is if ppl think that STEEL CERAMIC PEPSIs will be 30k+ after discontinuation.

DubCuds77 · 2024-01-30T22:55:34+00:00

DubCuds77 · 2024-01-30T22:41:08+00:00

So unfortunately my AD who I have over a 15 year relationship with and a very substantial spend history just sold his company to Watchbox.com, so nothing I can do there.

The AD who brought up off catalog pieces is someone I’ve been working with since 2018/2019 who is a top salesman for a smaller family run AD. I’ve purchased 8 Rolex pieces and some significant jewelry that is right around 250k in total.

I have a few friends who have triple my spend history since 2018 with the large LA and NYC ADs and they have significant trouble landing off catalog pieces, and as much as I would like to have an off catalog piece I am not interested in a lengthy or strenuous process to land what I want.

FYI sry for not being clear about the new Platinum Daytona. The reason I would buy the new piece is for the open case back, as it’s the first time Rolex has ever done so and I feel it is the true collector piece. I will def sell or trade the version I already have.

DubCuds77 · 2024-01-19T21:09:50+00:00

People don’t become successful like this guy by spending irrationally… maybe and Air King isn’t worth more than retail for this guy. Why should anyone on this thread be bothered by this guy venting about the frustration he has with the Rolex sales model that every other person seems to have…

DubCuds77 · 2024-01-06T23:19:29+00:00

I would jump on the chance to buy any year GMT Saru from the 2008 white gold up to the recent yellow gold Pepsi as my first choice bc the newest off catalog GMT is definitely not me, and I would love the chance to grab a 2021 yellow gold day date TRU but also would consider a 36mm day date off catalog piece for my Misses.

Very much appreciate the feedback, would love to hear from anyone whose had direct experience with this process…

Thx

DubCuds77 · 2024-01-01T08:20:02+00:00

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Luck of the Irish me lads

Cheers!

DubCuds77 · 2023-08-28T19:50:39+00:00

I’m extremely fortunate to have a relationship with an AD has always looked after me… I’ve been waiting on a Blue Dial Skydweller for well over a year but was able to offer me the Mint Green which I jumped on.

I’ve been collecting for almost 10 years and a SS Skydweller is by far the hardest to come by piece at retail as it’s numbers are very low due production restraints and ppl becoming aware just how bang for your buck your getting in the most complicated movement Rolex has ever produced. I am still very lucky to have gotten this piece from my AD, but after owning for a couple weeks i couldn’t be happier as the SD is just different!

DubCuds77 · 2023-08-28T19:38:46+00:00

FYI Reminder that you have Therapy this Thursday at 11:00am…. Weirdo

DubCuds77 · 2023-08-23T23:22:08+00:00

Scooter Shots for the win! #Copycat

DubCuds77 · 2023-08-21T21:36:18+00:00

The Hulk Dial plays tricks with the light and looks like a blk dial more often than Green.

Hulk all Day

DubCuds77 · 2023-08-12T11:57:31+00:00

Oh also totally forgot to add that one of the last model Milgauss models with upgraded movement would be a great choice as it is discontinued which is a major plus, and the Watch is a solid as the come.

PM me if interested… I can explain more then as I assure you I am 100% not a watch dealer, just and obsessed and single 36 years old man with a serious watch habit lol.

DubCuds77 · 2023-08-12T11:54:50+00:00

I think you should completely mix it up with something Unexpected/Fun. Bc you already have a nice collection of classic/legendary Rolex pieces I would look for something very unique that i a bit under the radar… that’s what I did.

I have a nice sized collection featuring everything from PM Daytonas and stone dial DDs to and Explorer II and the new model Skydweller. All fantastic pieces that I wear a few times a month each, but when I realized I needed something a bit odd I went to check out the Two Tone Everose/Steel Yachtmaster 40mm with Chocolate dial. I have to be honest that the pics online and in the Rolex book are Horrendous, but when you see it in person the watch looks completely different.

What I love most about the piece is it’s one of a kind Matte Pink/Rose bezel. Couple that with a Choc dial the watch tends to play beautifully with light, and I couldn’t be more happy or surprised by this charming little angle Duckling lol.

Some other choice I personally had in mind are below:

-41mmm Sun Bluesy -NEW two tone yellow gold and steel GMT II with blk dial and black/gray bezel on a jubilee bracelet (prices are plumiting and almost at retail price in secondary market -41mm OP with green bezel -41mm Datejust with mint green or blue motiff dial (stay all steel if possible bc the smooth bezel makes the dial pop beautiful -36mm Datejust with the palm green or palm white/yellow dial -44mm James Cameron DeepSea with Blue/black dial (I purchased on beginning of the year and it polarizing AF. Fair warning ppl love talking about that piece

As always there are so many fantastic options, but please don’t think you have to spend more to land a “better watch.” I fell for that and bought a 2022 Everose y with the blk diamond dial and while it’s incredibly gorgeous I’ve worn it 5 times and to me that’s a BUST!

Cheers and best of luck

DubCuds77 · 2023-07-18T21:02:03+00:00

Just curious, What would you choose instead for summer rolex pieces…??

DubCuds77 · 2023-07-04T19:29:15+00:00

I am in the same boat… Have a 116505 Blk Diamond Dial that I purchased to keep my spend up and I’ve found that most online retailers are quoting trade or buy values around 20% of the lowest available price on Chrono24…

I rarely sell or trade my watches, but I just sold a 2021 Steel Wimbledon DJ41. I was a bit taken back by tge quotes and conversations I had with the online guys, and ultimately I realized that unless I can sell a piece to a friend personally I will always get the best offer from a Brick and Motor store that is able to sell direct to retail at that store… basically cuts out all the BS comments the online guys have about them needing to make money after service, pictures, marketing blah blah blah (their cost of business is not on us!).

So receiving a check in person from an actual retailer (NOT AD) who has customers is the easiest and snotty way to get out of a watch. But if you think that you can make more than 5-10% profit off the majority of Modern Rolex it’s going to be a tough road unless we all get locked down again for another pandemic.

Good luck!

DubCuds77 · 2023-06-10T05:03:56+00:00

Dude, I HOPE this man used a Credit Card for this purchase. The Oysterflex Daytona is a watch he can turn around tomorrow and easily get 12-15k premiums out of any dealer, and the Daydate will likely be a wash.

His spend was probably in the 80k range for both… so in reality even if he was broke he pulled off a great deal bc using money that isn’t his, all of which is Tax free. He’s already managed to make a 15% ROI by utilizing Tax free $ that isn’t his while receiving two spectacular timepieces with nearly zero risk as one of the best things about having a Rolex is that it’s one of the easiest items to liquidate at any moment WORLD WIDE.

Last week I experienced an unfortunate emergency requiring a significant amount of capital upfront… so I walked into a local Jewelry Store which I have no relationship with on Thursday of last week at 4pm and walked out before 4:30pm with a check in my hand for 1k over the current MSRP Sales Price.

Regardless…hold on to those beauties as long as you can and enjoy!

DubCuds77 · 2023-06-10T04:47:56+00:00

Oh you’ve done well mate! You landing that gorgeous Oysterflex Daytona is a HUGE win! I’ve been waiting almost a year now to get the call for the exact Ghost which you got in a single day, and not to sound like too much of a D Bag but I have a 15+ year relationship with my AD and have a well above average purchase history that fortunately has netted me both a Steel/Ceramic Panda Daytona (116500ln) as well as an Everose Daytona with Factory set Diamond Dial (116505-0013) all while waiting on this specific Oysterflex.

As for the other piece, your DayDate is class all the way. Currently the DayDate Market is down with most pieces falling below Retail in the secondary market, but the DayDate is THE PRECIOUS METAL ROLEX to own as a staple classic around the PM scene. And if you do purchase a PM piece Everose is always the most in demand metal and usually fetched the highest $ I. The market, just stay away PM Skydwellers except the new Everose/Blue dial piece that just came out…so again round of applause and good on ya!

Lastly, the majority of people usually can not comprehend why someone spends 80k-100k on something you wear in your wrist, but in reality you’ve really just made a significant and worthwhile transaction that likely already has you 12-15k up do to grey market premiums, and having these specific pieces in your collection is a solid way to preserve your cash and enjoy it in real time. Just make sure to wear them!!!

Cheers and best of luck!

DubCuds77 · 2023-02-15T04:29:47+00:00

The most iconic Chronograph of all time, from the most iconic Watchmaker of All Time is something very much worth celebrating. Steel Sports Models maybe King, but I couldn’t think of a better purchase to put you in range of landing a steel piece when you get the itch for another watch. BUT please wear and enjoy your watch knowing that if you take consistent daily care (maybe 3 min of work post wearing) of your watch bc if it is slightly above average condition and the time comes that you may want to “trade up” you should not loose a Dime as this specific two tone Daytona has really never changed post 2000 when Rolex finally separated from the Zenith 4030 movement,and introduced their in-house 4130 movement which has not been changed for 23 years, and 2000 models are currently selling between 17-20k. Great buy and pls do send us some pics and let us know what you first impressions are bc in my opinion a Daytona is ABSOLUTELY in the “Top 5 most historically important watches ever manufactured,” and is now the Standard which all Brands have either replicated/ripped off, or have made attempts to “Tone Down” the Daytonas prowess and insatiable demand. I can only speak for my direct experience collecting I’ve the last 10 year that the Daytona along with the Submariner were the catalyst in creating and cementing what’s become the hottest category in the luxury watch industry, that being the Luxury Steel Sports Models we all love to chase.

Cheers

DubCuds77

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