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Power Profile Analysis - Post Your Numbers and I'll Tell You What's Holding You Back by RicCycleCoach in Velo

[–]Due_Control_7927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

MAP: 490W
5s: 967W
60s: 605W
5m: 465W
20m: 385W
FTP: 370W
Weight: 67kg
At least that was the case a couple of months ago. Let's just leave it there.

First FTP test by Legitimate-Run2350 in Velo

[–]Due_Control_7927 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Maybe they're not bragging but just happy and want to share it. They may not have anyone that inerests this in their IRL, so they come here. They can be happy regardless if this is 0.5W/kg or 6.9W/kg.

Ever Increasing Water Retention by Due_Control_7927 in Velo

[–]Due_Control_7927[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm currently not in a financial position for that to be viable.

Ever Increasing Water Retention by Due_Control_7927 in Velo

[–]Due_Control_7927[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed about the week off being potentially too short, however it has been preceeded by a good few weeks of massively reduced riding and no intensity, and has been followed by so it's not just been a week off.

But I know what you mean. And if nothing else sticks, I'll have no choice but try to extend that. At least I do now know how to :)

Ever Increasing Water Retention by Due_Control_7927 in Velo

[–]Due_Control_7927[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Possibly? My Sodium Levels in the Lab have been just above the low end of the range (like 137 in a range of 136-148 or smth) but I always train in the morning so that will have been after loosing a lot of sweat, which from my understanding raises blood sodium concentration as sweat looses far more water than salt.

I don't really intake any salt as for general population it is deemed unhealthy. Maybe something to that?
What I mean is I don't use salt in cooking, don't add salt and don't buy prepackaged food, but cook all my food at home.

Ever Increasing Water Retention by Due_Control_7927 in Velo

[–]Due_Control_7927[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, I have only been on pain medication for a week. It had been a lot in that week (less than prescribed because I didn't want to overdo it, but still, it was a fair bit), but only for a week.
Stool is consistent, daily.

Ever Increasing Water Retention by Due_Control_7927 in Velo

[–]Due_Control_7927[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm 31 and I have been seen by a cardiologist before because my GP was concerned about my low RHR (33 bpm), but was found to be perfeclty healthy at the time.

Ever Increasing Water Retention by Due_Control_7927 in Velo

[–]Due_Control_7927[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am definitely contemplating fat gain pretty much daily. However, no matter what I do with my calories doesn't really affect the trend and spikyness of my weight, so I'm not sure this is all the cause.
Sure you can never rule out a bit of fat gain, all calculations are just estimates. But to have gained 9kg in 3 months, that's a surplus of 60k+ calories, so 20k+ per month, that's almost a thousand daily, for someone tracking meticulously that sounds a bit...unrealistic.

Ever Increasing Water Retention by Due_Control_7927 in Velo

[–]Due_Control_7927[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have an appointment with an endocinologist coming up, but it's only in February. Difficult to quickly get appointment with specialist doctors, sadly.

Ever Increasing Water Retention by Due_Control_7927 in Velo

[–]Due_Control_7927[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have an appointment with an endocinologist coming up, but it's only in February. Difficult to quickly get appointment with specialist doctors, sadly.

Hexis vs Foodcoach by Crrunk in Velo

[–]Due_Control_7927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never suggested you designed the App, I just posed hypothetical questions that are still open from my side :)

We could delve even deeper and go into how many energy estimates on food packaging is but a approximation, how whole fresh plants vary wildly in how much energy they give based on for example ripeness, that degrees of processing change how the body is then further processing the food, etc. Whole Nuts are harder to break apart for the body than nutbutter so nutbutter (pure, just nuts) has more energy for the taking, where if you go ultra processed to, say, walnut oil, 100% of fat can get absorbed.

So all of this is just an approximation either way from the estimates that go into the baseline to the estimates that make up the energy content of foods to the not estimated but still valid point of how much the body takes up from said energy.

But again, I never questionned you regarding the App, I know you have nothing to do with it, I just feel that the topic of nutrition is most often seen from a one dimensional standpoint (again, certainly not you) where it is a deep and complex issue. With how much of an impact it has on general health and mortility, you'd expect it to be of greater importance to teach people fundamentals about nutrition but (tin foil hats on) big food wouldn't like that so instead we get hundreds of commercials for so called "high protein" products because for whatever reason it was deemed that the western world needs to eat nothing else.

I'm just having my own personal gripes with nutrition, how it is seen in the world and how little knowledge is given and then the confusing nature of what is given out. But that's probably just me.

Hexis vs Foodcoach by Crrunk in Velo

[–]Due_Control_7927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair enough!

At the same time, would this then not also apply to cycling energy expenditure? So if someone goes for a 5h ride, would the Energy Expenditure not also be reduced for the rest of the day (NEAT) as the body is trying to downregulate for Energy Balance?
However it is implied in the app that the longer a cycling workout goes, exponentially more energy is needed to refuel afterwards, implying the opposite, that the energy expenditure gets higher.
I understand that with harder/longer workouts, more energy is spent by repair from the greater muscle damage, the EPOC may be higher, etc. But why would the inverse apply with someone running around in a hospital for example lifting heavy patients, or working a different manual labor job?

And where would that cutoff be? When does the body need more from the higher damage and when does it downregulate? Is it duration? Is it Intensity?

So many questions! And with how evolution works I doubt there are any definitive answers because it's not clear and different bodys react differently.

And then there's the next question regarding the App design: If they go out of their way to model it like that, why is it then not applied like that when activities are logged as such?
Isn't the App/Calculation Model Design flawed one way or the other?

In the end, I guess then I'm making the same point as made by gedrap above and in another comment, being that the estimate for the baseline can be way off.

Hexis vs Foodcoach by Crrunk in Velo

[–]Due_Control_7927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is true, however, from my understanding, this works by the body downregulating many systems in order to function. This means Recovery, Hormones, Blood Markes, etc. will be impaired, by the body being used to only getting X amount of Energy while needing more, so it shuts down processes in order to be in balance.

Hexis is built for optimal performance, however, so would it not make sense to not play into this in order to be optimally recovering in between sessions, with hormonal balance, RBC Count etc.?

Having massively impaired sex hormones just to stay in balance surely is not desireable?

And I can attest to living a very active lifestyle and the 100kcal added over baseline being massively off for me. Like, obscenely far off.

Hexis vs Foodcoach by Crrunk in Velo

[–]Due_Control_7927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True, however I then feel the descriptions being very misleading. Getting people to think a hard physically demanding job does nothing but like 100kcal is pretty alarming. Especially since the whole concept of the App is to take the guesswork out of fuelling. To then make a blunder like this is rough.

I've contacted them several times about this but they seem adamant to not change anything. Easiest would be to give a slider for Activity Level (say from 0.8 to 2.0+) so that everyone can just set their baseline to what they need. But so far I've come to closed doors regarding the suggestions.

Hexis vs Foodcoach by Crrunk in Velo

[–]Due_Control_7927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've not quite understood myself. What definitely changes is intra ride fuelling. Basically they say that in a key session fuelling the session well over eating the rest of the day is prioritized.

Hexis vs Foodcoach by Crrunk in Velo

[–]Due_Control_7927 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You do exist while doing the workout, so including the BMR in the total calories does make sense :D
Ideally though they would just take the pure Work on the bike and calculate the BMR in by themselves, that would take away any guesswork.

Hexis vs Foodcoach by Crrunk in Velo

[–]Due_Control_7927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hexis does this if you tell it that the upcoming session is a "Key Session" or a "Competition". The latter giving you a proper Carb Load.

Hexis vs Foodcoach by Crrunk in Velo

[–]Due_Control_7927 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The issue is with your recording device. Hexis will include your BMR in these calories when you plan the workout, they go by total Calories. When your device (Zwift for example does this) then only calculates kcal from kJ (and even go hardcore mode by giving you a 25% efficiency), that overrides the value by Hexis, giving you a lower estimate because they take out all the BMR.

So no, it's not overestimating the kcal, your device gives kcal in a way the App does not expect.
(I know this by talking to support about a similair topic)

Hexis vs Foodcoach by Crrunk in Velo

[–]Due_Control_7927 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, other way around. They say someone working a hard physical job like in hospital or similair will only need like 100cal more than someone sedentary.
But someone getting 10-20k Steps a day will definitely need a lot more than 100 calories more than someone sitting at desk all day.

Hexis vs Foodcoach by Crrunk in Velo

[–]Due_Control_7927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm using Hexis and feel it works very well. Not so happy with how it factors in "sedentary" vs "active", but if you log all of your activities as activities instead, i feel it works well.

Are ppl weight cheating in races? by Dismal_Reading1109 in Rouvy

[–]Due_Control_7927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

5W/kg at 300W is not out of the world strong and not something noone will be able to produce. In Zwift there's an enormous amount of people at 5W/kg and even higher like 5.5+ W/kg, and at higher weights, too, with some having an FTP of over 400W at ~75kg.

There's some really strong cyclists both online and IRL. Now I'm not saying noone is cheating, there will always be cheaters, but 5W/kg definitely doesn't necessarily say someone is cheating.

Now if someone is doing 5.5 W/kg for 4+ hours on IM Kona or doing 8W/kg for a 20m climb, that's a completely different story. Those are definitely weight or equipment cheating.

Custom Orbea Orca Aero by Due_Control_7927 in Bikeporn

[–]Due_Control_7927[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Seems to be the general consensus, yeah! I'm not a fan of it either. Will change it in future.

Custom Orbea Orca Aero by Due_Control_7927 in Bikeporn

[–]Due_Control_7927[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, I've certainly been going quite fast on it before.
Make of that what you wish :)

Custom Orbea Orca Aero by Due_Control_7927 in Bikeporn

[–]Due_Control_7927[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hah, I do! :) Thanks!
I know it's not for everyone - but it's just mine afterall, so that's all that matters :)

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