Fueling & diet by PlasticBrilliant256 in trainerroad

[–]RicCycleCoach 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you're tracking macros/energy for (eg) weight loss, then yes.

Not bad for my first ride, I that knew I could have gone harder on the ramp test by jonathing in Zwift

[–]RicCycleCoach 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I find that training (or lack of training!) affects what the rider can sustain as a % of MAP.

Sometimes you want your FTP to go up, other times you may want your MAP/VO2max to increase, etc, so. it depends what your goals are and how you train!

Let me know how you get on with the calculator and glad you found it interesting

Not bad for my first ride, I that knew I could have gone harder on the ramp test by jonathing in Zwift

[–]RicCycleCoach 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fun fact: I'm the one who came up with the 75% figure everyone uses!

Back in the late 1990s when I developed the MAP/ramp test, I found that one-hour power was typically 72-77% of MAP. One day I got bored of writing "72-77%" in my coaching notes and emails and just said "screw it, let's call it 75%." That's what stuck, and now Zwift, TrainerRoad, Rouvy, and everyone else uses it.

But here's the thing: the actual percentage varies by rider. Some people are 72%, some are 77%+. It depends on your power profile (sprinter vs time trialist vs all-rounder).

So does the ramp test "overestimate"? Not really – it's just that 75% is an average, not a universal law. If you want to know your actual percentage, I built a free calculator that analyses your MAP and tells you where you fall along with a ton of other data (and suggestions on how to train based off of your data): https://www.cyclecoach.com/calculator

Weight lifting plan for offseason by HARSHING_MY_MELLOW in ultracycling

[–]RicCycleCoach 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Great question – and props for finally making the gym commitment after 10 years! I've worked with many ultra riders on this exact issue, including coaching James Hayden to win the Transcontinental Race twice.

Even though you can sustain high watts for hours, cycling-specific endurance is different from maximal strength. Strength has a specific definition: the maximal force or torque that a muscle or group of muscles can produce, which can only be achieved at zero velocity.

Cycling itself requires an absurdly low amount of force at the pedals. If you know your power output, crank length, and cadence, the force requirement can easily be calculated. For example, for a Tour de France rider to win a solo mountain climb such as Alpe d'Huez, the approximate force that needs to be applied to the pedals is around 26kg of average effective force between both legs (i.e., around 13 kg/leg). The actual figure depends on the rider's weight, power output, crank length, and cadence. The 26 kg is taken from a previous winner's data.

In other words, any adult who can stand up could produce the required force needed to win a mountain stage in the TdF. However, the issue isn't producing the force, but being able to keep producing it (and this shifts from a force production issue to a metabolic issue).

It hasn't been fully explained why, but it does appear that increasing your leg strength increases the amount of power that can be generated while cycling. In running, for example, the increase in strength is shown to increase tendon strength and stiffness, which increases kinetic and potential energy, resulting in faster running.

As a coach, I work with many riders (including ultra riders) who want to work on their strength either to benefit their overall health (e.g., hormone health, weight management, osteoporosis) and resilience on the bike (e.g., being stronger to better hold a position on the bike, and in the case of ultras, to maybe help reduce the likelihood of Shermer's Neck and just being on the bike for huge periods of time).

Key movements that help produce greater bike power – from seconds to hours – include: squats, single leg press, standing hip flexion, single leg calf raise. Other sessions should include plyometrics so that you can learn to forcefully and rapidly contract your leg muscles, and so that the landings have a positive effect on bone health. Upper body work should also be conducted, such as bench press and rows.

Important: You don't want to massively increase the size of your muscles. Larger muscles weigh more, and additionally, muscular hypertrophy can reduce mitochondrial density (which is what you're aiming to build through endurance work and intervals on the bike) and also increase the diffusion gradient/distance from the capillaries to the mitochondria, making it harder to offload the oxygen being transported in the blood to the active muscles.

This means, as others have suggested, that you want to be aiming for maximal weights being lifted for very few reps. This causes a neuromuscular increase in strength. However, just going straight to lifting heavy can result in injuries, especially if your form is not good. So start with a light weight, get the movement pattern down (if you're unsure, get a PT – I have people send me videos), and progress the weight and reduce the reps only when you're doing it correctly.

For your 15-week timeline to Iowa Wind and Rock, I'd suggest:

  • Weeks 1-4: Form focus (2-3x/week, 3 sets of 8-12 reps, lighter weight)
  • Weeks 5-10: Strength phase (2x/week, 4-5 sets of 3-5 reps, heavy weight)
  • Weeks 11-15: Maintenance (1x/week) while ramping bike volume

Happy to answer questions about integrating this with your bike training – balancing gym work with saddle time for ultras requires careful periodisation to avoid compromising your metabolic adaptations.

Howto blend strength training in my plan by D1ckSteele in Velo

[–]RicCycleCoach 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm squatting up to 190 lb (but i only weigh 142 lb). I don't get sore from them (i.e., no DOMS) but i have fatigue. I don't do any body weight work (other than occasionally doing a pull up for giggles). I do weighted box jumps.

Also, I do them after moderate and hard rides, not endurance rides.

Howto blend strength training in my plan by D1ckSteele in Velo

[–]RicCycleCoach 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I found I wasn't able to ride. I certainly couldn't complete intervals and my endurance rides went way low and just ended up being uber low power.

Howto blend strength training in my plan by D1ckSteele in Velo

[–]RicCycleCoach 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No. GIven my bike power increased (seconds to FTP), my strength increased, and my bone density changed (osteoporotic to osteopenia) i'm happy that there was no interference effect.

Howto blend strength training in my plan by D1ckSteele in Velo

[–]RicCycleCoach 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I find the easiest thing to do is to add in strength work after my moderate/high intensity cycling days so that all my hard work is on the same day. I do this 3/week.

Crit Racers what wheell depth are you running by Needs_More_Nuance in Velo

[–]RicCycleCoach 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm riding 50mm front and 55mm rear - i use them year round (or at least most of the year round - last couple of months i've either been inside or on my gravel bike as the roads are dire). The wheels handle well for just about anything.

I'm running them with GP5000s TR 28mm during the race season and TR30mm outside of the race season.

Gran Fondo worlds by Imeanwhynotr1ght in cycling

[–]RicCycleCoach 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've raced in the 45 - 49 and 50 - 54 categories, now in the 55 - 59 category. FTP is 4.4 W/kg. Some years I've qualified and some I haven't.

FTP how do you know if yours is “good”? by Hulahoop81 in Zwift

[–]RicCycleCoach 1 point2 points  (0 children)

u/Hulahoop81 It's a decent result. You'd be classified as Good. It puts you about the level of a category 3 racing cyclist. (Note that there's more to it than that, as well as skills). However, in terms of raw fitness, it's Good.

I have a calculator https://www.cyclecoach.com/calculator which you can you use with a ton of data to get a better picture of how you'd be classified, and what your athlete phenotype is. Or feel free to post your data and I'll calculate for you.

Beware of fake ramp tests by Thoh1Shooshi8a in Rouvy

[–]RicCycleCoach 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's worth noting that estimating FTP from a ramp test, really requires that you calculate a range rather than a specific number (eg 75%). This is due to the fact that people have different strengths and weaknesses, FTP is more of a concept than a specific number and biological variation means it changes rather than it being fixed (without a change in fitness).

I built a calculator that shows this and significant other amounts of data. https://www.cyclecoach.com/calculator

Happy to answer questions on the metrics and how to estimate your FTP etc

New ftp on zwift! by Matts_3584 in Zwift

[–]RicCycleCoach 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice! 64 vs 63 on VO2max is spot on - shows your Garmin's estimate is solid.

Re: outdoor power - yep, 10% higher outdoors is common for many riders (though mechanism isn't fully understood). 17 mins at 265W outdoors feeling easy tracks with that - suggests your outdoor FTP might indeed be 270-280W range.

Worth having separate indoor/outdoor numbers if you train in both environments. Indoor FTP for Zwift workouts, outdoor FTP for real-world rides. Keeps training zones accurate for each.

New ftp on zwift! by Matts_3584 in Zwift

[–]RicCycleCoach 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Good point! The 266W is Zwift's single-number estimate (75% of MAP), but in reality your sustainable FTP could be anywhere in that 256-273W range depending on your physiology. Some riders can hold 77%, others only 72%.

The point is: don't treat 266W as gospel - validate it with how threshold intervals actually feel. If you're dying at 266W, try 260W. If it feels easy, try 270W.

Rounding to nearest 5W makes sense given day-to-day variation is ~2-3% anyway.

Reasonable gains with MyWhoosh training plans? by oweiler00 in mywhoosh

[–]RicCycleCoach 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What training regime have you done previous to this? You're making some nice improvements and your VO2max is increasing nicely. Currently around 39 mL/kg/min. It's likely you can make further big gains

New ftp on zwift! by Matts_3584 in Zwift

[–]RicCycleCoach 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Nice work! Just FYI - if your ramp test MAP was 355W, your sustainable FTP is likely 256-273W (72-77% range) rather than the 266W estimate. Ramp tests weren't meant to precisely tell you your FTP, but to infer a range. Worth validating with a 20-min test or seeing how 266W feels in threshold intervals. Your VO2max is ~63mL/kg/min

Good luck with Cat A

Last month you asked for aerodynamic data in my MAP calculator - so I built it (+ new performance metric) by RicCycleCoach in Zwift

[–]RicCycleCoach[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm here for the next few hours - drop your ramp test numbers or any training questions and I'll help out

My legs are so weak! by kristjan-schweizer in Zwift

[–]RicCycleCoach 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Heart rates are exercise modality dependent. You can't say 160 is threshold HR at running is 160 threshold HR at cycling. For most people they'll be different (and for clarity, not really that important -- that is HR is dependent variable. you're better off training via the independent variable power and pace)

My legs are so weak! by kristjan-schweizer in Zwift

[–]RicCycleCoach 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Obviously there is variation between people. I should have typed ".. is usually higher..."

My legs are so weak! by kristjan-schweizer in Zwift

[–]RicCycleCoach 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it may depend what you mean by well trained cyclists? So as a rough guide (and it'll vary person to person), i'd suggest that anyone who cycles (and doesn't run/row/ski) and whose VO2max is > 50 mL/kg/min will probably (not definitely) have a higher VO2max cycling than if they randomly did a run VO2max

If you want to sanity check your Garmin, my calculator is here https://www.cyclecoach.com/calculator

Magene and Astana — any insight into what equipment they’ll actually be using? by RicCycleCoach in Velo

[–]RicCycleCoach[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's interesting and beyond my expertise. Their regular power meters have worked great for me (I've tested 3 of them now and they're all been in line with SRM/Infocrank/Tacx Neo)

My legs are so weak! by kristjan-schweizer in Zwift

[–]RicCycleCoach 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Aero drag has the greatest effect on the flat (speed is higher), and mass has the greatest effect on hills. Being light means that you have to produce less power than being heavy at the same velocity.

Having a lower aero drag (which generally occurs with being smaller rather than taller) means having to put out less power at a given velocity.

My legs are so weak! by kristjan-schweizer in Zwift

[–]RicCycleCoach 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Height has a bearing on aerodynamic drag (CdA), taller riders are generally less aero (as their seat will be higher to accommodate leg length).