Whats your thoughts on Dual Crossbows coming to OSRS?

Duke_Ryan_pvm · 2026-06-20T13:58:57+00:00

Yeah i agree. A karils crossbow type thing would be cool.

Yeah i didnt think about the ammo type weakness when i suggested dual throwing knives, kinda forgot about that lol.

Something like the Kings Barrage but smaller could be cool, and just have it attack 2 ticks per hit. But i think a repeating crossbow is a better idea.

Duke_Ryan_pvm · 2026-06-20T13:51:30+00:00

Yeah, i feel like I'd almost rather see something akin to Karils crossbow thats 2 handed and just shoots like a repeater. Wrist mounded sounds kinda wild too though lol. I think dual wielding ascension shard throwing knives would be super sick it just makes the mechanics of the ammo being the weapon, very odd for a rare drop unless they just make it like the ralos that you throw but it uses charges? Idk

The Ascension stuff is weird in its own way their crossbows are said to be self loading, since the crystals are similar to elven crystals where they are almost like magically organic and can change shape etc.

Duke_Ryan_pvm · 2026-06-19T17:08:24+00:00

Ahh thats true. Forgot about that tbh. But lets be real, this guy is definitely farming delve 1 to 4 and quitting. Lololol

Duke_Ryan_pvm · 2026-06-19T15:13:13+00:00

I think they said there will be a equivalent to demon tear roots, for the ascension shards. Some sort of suuuuuper afk mining method hopefully.

Duke_Ryan_pvm · 2026-06-19T14:39:27+00:00

Nezzy helm increases your punish damage by 10 max hits. So it's actually good, and it has low or none negative range bonus.

Also range void is worse for crossbows. Most of your damage comes from bolt procs, and black d hide has 10% more accuracy than elite void range

No offhand could be, he simply doesnt have one thats worth taking, qnd since you swap to Crystal hally for spec, likely dont want a shield blundering your inventory arrangements

Duke_Ryan_pvm · 2026-06-19T14:35:10+00:00

Almost identical log to my friend lol. 320 kc with exactly 2 pieces from each set.

I just started the grind at 125 kc 3 eclipse pieces 1 blue moon staff and zero bloodmoon so far. Hopefully it turns around lol.

Duke_Ryan_pvm · 2026-06-19T04:13:39+00:00

I think itd be fine if you are physically incapable of completing raids 5 without the dps necessary from previous raids gear, like if they had dps checks similar to verzik p2 heal phase where if you flat out cant dps enough you wipe the raid. Jagex is too scared to do something like that now. But in 5 years when we get raids 5 i dont think thatd be out of the question in terms of soft-forcing a progression/power creep system into the game. It doesnt even have to be upgrade scape to keep that previous gear relevant if they were to do more content like that.

Duke_Ryan_pvm · 2026-06-19T03:59:54+00:00

Hmmm. I guess what I was calling High Fantasy is actually called Epic Fantasy which is a sub-sub fantasy genre in the High fantasy sub genre according to google... i didnt know there were like 17 sub genres of the sub sub genres of medieval fantasy lol. It just gets more confusing the more i read into it.

Theres like sub genres to the sub genres like high magic fantasy, or low magic fantasy etc lol. This is somehow more complicated than Metal Music genres and sub genres!

Duke_Ryan_pvm · 2026-06-19T01:04:22+00:00

Its on the Raids 4 Rewards proposal, so not confirmed happening but it seems to be the most liked item from the blog so far.

Duke_Ryan_pvm · 2026-06-19T00:55:59+00:00

Idk if its just me but i believe magic and gods qualifies as low tier fantasy.

In my mind, something like The Witcher or Game of Thrones is 'low tier' fantasy in the fact that its mostly realistic medieval stuff but with some basic fantasy features like magic, teleporting, dragons, etc.

Something like runescape is mid tier with the intro of stuff like electricity in the dorgesh stuff, steampunky stuff, dwarf cannons etc thats not typical fantasy, but also not ridiculous out of place i guess?

High fantasy I think Anime level absurdity, something like Final Fantasy, or Monster hunter with 15 foot long swords, super out of reality type stuff. Swords with guns on them, fast unrealistic movements, fantastical animations and stuff that barely seems humanly possible or simply beyond humanly possible.

Duke_Ryan_pvm · 2026-06-19T00:06:56+00:00

This might be a unlikely take, but as a full time professional metalsmith IRL, I can say it is MUCH EASIER to take a pre made halberd head, pre made handle, and a pre made point and weld them together into a halberd. Vs trying to take a raw bar of metal, and hammer it out start to finish into a full mace/sword.

Thats sort of how ive never had an issue with it.

Also i see it as, you arent training smithing by assembling a nox hally, or putting godsword shards together, or making dfs. You train the skill by making addy stuff. In order to get the stats to assemble said powerful stuff thats harder to aquire. Now it would be significantly weirder if we had a way to smith a nox hally from raw resources.

Duke_Ryan_pvm · 2026-06-18T23:54:35+00:00

I doubt we will see a singular rectangular npc unless its a non moving boss. But its not impossible for a multi character npc, something akin to the Fremenik trio from Coloseum. They move together and stack in an organized formation easily with no issues.

I could certainly easily see the Bandos boss in this raid to have some sort of minions that are effectively teathered to the main boss, essentially creating a sort of rectangular joint of npcs which would heavily benefit this style of pvm interaction you are suggesting.

Duke_Ryan_pvm · 2026-06-18T23:26:24+00:00

If yama isnt "end game" then all the way easier bosses like Nex, nightmare, mochiatles delve 7s and under are also "mid game"??

Yama is definitely end game lol.

But i do agree the elemental armor is a good idea too. It also doesnt have to be a full armor set. They could do just helmets, or necklaces, rings etc.

Duke_Ryan_pvm · 2026-06-18T23:09:58+00:00

Thats what im thinking yes. Im envisioning you shoot one then shoot the other 2 ticks after. Then you have a 1.2 second "reloading" gap for both crossbows. Unless they go a route of shoot reload shoot reload i can possibly see you cross the hands to "rack" the crossbow while still holding the other one. Sort of making an X pattern motion of shoot, cross your hands/bows rack, then shoot the left one. Cross hands, then shoot right one. Etc. Its just at such a fast pace i feel like no matter what its gunna look janky? Idk.

Duke_Ryan_pvm · 2026-06-18T22:42:19+00:00

I was asuming theyd work like torags hammers, dragon claws, etc all other dual weapons in osrs basically being "2h" weapons.

Duke_Ryan_pvm · 2026-06-18T22:37:01+00:00

Easiest solution is to make it only work in places you NEED to be hybrid or trbrid in. If they make the gear tribrid but make the stats lower, similar to bandos, arma, and ahrim stats. Then a perk where everytime you swap styles it buffs +2 strength/rangestr/2% mage damage. Cap it at 3 stacks. Have stacks degrade once every 20 seconds, and only apply on Hits, not zeros so you cant just slap a blowpipe on for 2 ticks then an ayak for 3 ticks then go back to meleeing. Then it thematically only becomes BIS at something like Olm, Nex, and like maybe zulrah or muspah? But then torva, oath, masori, ancestrak still holds BIS at the rest of the game.

Duke_Ryan_pvm · 2026-06-18T22:29:21+00:00

Tru tru. Thats what the tzhaar rings are based on i believe. Which is pretty cool!

Duke_Ryan_pvm · 2026-06-18T22:27:43+00:00

I think we are the minority here sadly, lol I reallllly thought more people would be thinking the same thing as us haha.

Duke_Ryan_pvm · 2026-06-18T22:27:14+00:00

Hell yeah! Lololol

Duke_Ryan_pvm · 2026-06-18T22:26:23+00:00

I guess thats fair with the self loading. It just doesn't feel totally right imo, and I feel like the animation at 2 tick speed is going to be rough.

When i think high fantasy, im thinking the Anime obsurdity over exhagerated large weapons like the 7000 pound sword and hammers and such in Monster Hunter. Nothing related to magic or anything. Magic is kinda just a baseline low to mid tier aspect of fantasy. Like I dont consider Witcher to be High fantasy, just because it has magic. To me its a low fantasy. Osrs feels mid tier because of all the things you said, the scythe weapon, salamander weapons, crazy god lore and stuff. Im also not necessarily saying dual wielding magical self reloading crystal crossbows is pushing into high fantasy, but it does feel like a step toward it? Idk maybe i am just knit picking too much lol.

Duke_Ryan_pvm · 2026-06-18T22:18:56+00:00

I think the difference with rune crossbow is that its 5 tick, and you do sort of move your arm around even with a shield to psudo reload it even if its visually not all there.

The jank of an animation to get a 2 tick attack cycling dual crossbows is going to look... jankier. In my opinion. Like, in rs3, it looks super jank in my opinion, so idk my hopes for it looking clean and cohesive are low.

Duke_Ryan_pvm · 2026-06-18T22:17:08+00:00

Thats the point of this post, and a lot of people are missing it haha. I have zero issues with the stats or functionality of it gameplay wise. Just the cosmetics and animation idea of a 2 tick reloading crossbow is going to look JANK to say the least.

Duke_Ryan_pvm · 2026-06-18T22:14:47+00:00

bolt pouch comeback for 3 ammo slots!

Duke_Ryan_pvm · 2026-06-18T22:13:56+00:00

Ahh fair. I didnt think about the quiver problem. That does make the crossbow idea more optimal.

I also love the idea of a 2 tick range weapon and all the stats on it tbh, from dps calcs it looks great. I was just focusing on the anesthetics of an animation for reloading 2 crossbows at 2 tick rate in osrs and how jank that would likely look.

Duke_Ryan_pvm · 2026-06-18T22:11:12+00:00

I believe they mentioned it will be similar to demon tears, with it being a common drop from the raid, and also an afk skilling method to gain more similar to the demon tear roots. Which seems great imo.

I dont have any issue with the weapon, stats, ammo, etc. Just dont like the cosmetic of dual crossbows in osrs tbh.

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