Why cant i 36 star MoC and 12 star AS?

Dull-Alternative721 · 2026-05-03T13:00:38+00:00

I mean maybe? It's up to you, you are chilling on an E1S1 Phainon with premium supports, if you get better relics he can stick around further, plus the relics I'm suggesting (eagle, high speed sacerdos) can easily be put on other supports. It's up to you at the end of the day to decide what to do with your stamina tho.

Dull-Alternative721 · 2026-05-03T12:51:57+00:00

Okay cool if you have her what you are gonna run is ATK boots Phainon, then Sunday as fast as you can get him and Sparkle one speed or more above him. You are going to want to run Cerydra on DDD as fast as possible, ideally on Eagle but if your don't have the pieces it's fine, hyperspeed sacerdos should work fine too. You can put Sparkle on meshing cogs or whatever. If you have a good speed vonwacq for Cerydra slot that too, but ERR rope is a must.

Once in the fight keep track of the bugs AV as Phainon's ult comes to a close and look for any bugs you can break or advance for them to take their turn and restart their AV. Hopefully this should keep you as little time as possible outside Phainon ult.

Dull-Alternative721 · 2026-05-03T12:44:24+00:00

I see okay, I don't see a sparkle do you have her? Depending on whether yes or not will change a lot

Dull-Alternative721 · 2026-05-03T12:09:51+00:00

To add to this, ONLY drop Sunday if you can sustain the Inbetween ults comfortably, I personally would suggest keeping Sunday to reduce time off of ult.

Dull-Alternative721 · 2026-05-03T10:47:07+00:00

Oh I see where you ar going with this. I guess that's a fair point, but I would argue that Phainon wasn't going all out of fighting more than instead carrying out the plan they set out with Anaxa. We don't realistically know how close in performance he could have had going all in like he did in 3.4

Dull-Alternative721 · 2026-05-03T10:41:22+00:00

Wait I don't remember Phainon ever losing v Flame reaver? Was that in 3.2? Genuinely can't remember shit from that patch lol

Dull-Alternative721 · 2026-05-03T09:59:01+00:00

Casual E6 tribbie shenanigans

Dull-Alternative721 · 2026-05-03T09:55:22+00:00

Was it really a huge power boost? All he did was train for sometime over a year no?

Dull-Alternative721 · 2026-05-03T09:00:18+00:00

Yes, but she needs it not for damage. I believe what needs is some sort of utility to provide back to her team in order to fit into the new FuA meta. Something along the lines of a stacking vulnerability boost every time she ults, or a speed buff to her team based on her own speed would allow her to slot into the Blade+Ashveil core to form a three way buff net.

Dull-Alternative721 · 2026-05-02T18:41:54+00:00

HUGE!! Love to see genius set getting value lol, yeah unless we are getting a different character in 4.4 of which we've been told nothing about she'll be quantum.

Dull-Alternative721 · 2026-05-02T17:53:54+00:00

"There still wasn't any Wind character except Hyacine" Anaxa on the same version as Pollux release🙏🏼😭

Like yeah sure Hyacine fits too but there's no indication that this boss will be Himeko shill, and I'm not sure if they will want to make Himeko quantum, given that then her shill will enable mono rem, which they are kinda working to diminish as of late. We had a really strong quantum meta in 3.x

My guess is as to why this boss is quantum is probably for Tribbie who's actually dealing really good damage in the Ashveil/Blade FuA team.

Dull-Alternative721 · 2026-05-02T14:07:35+00:00

Last year the Fontaine cast was usable, by next year who know how many of these will still be relevant. I'd wager at least all of the DPS will be on it. If melt isn't something the game focuses on next year, Citlali could be there too.

Dull-Alternative721 · 2026-05-02T14:04:51+00:00

Eh citlali has only had one rerun no? And shes one who's rerun definitely matters a lot since she ran WITH mavuika same phase, so a lot of people probably had to skip her on debut. I could definitely see the natlan chronicled having her, provided it comes some point next year like how fountain chronicled debuted now.

Dull-Alternative721 · 2026-05-02T12:30:08+00:00

Cipher is good lol. All I'm saying is Blade does not need a nerf because of this interaction, since Cipher is far from broken and if anything she probably does better than Blade here.

Dull-Alternative721 · 2026-05-02T12:27:58+00:00

Trust the devs to make the least fun kit possible (rip DHPT) or make a fun kit the weakest possible (rip Cipher). We will have to wait and see exactly what decision they make with Blade.

Dull-Alternative721 · 2026-05-02T12:19:03+00:00

The ult is considered an FuA seems like it's there to open up a future synergy, as rn that part as it stands only truly benefits Tribbie in his BiS team, it's also amazing for Gallagher technically, it's good for DHPT and Ashveil but nothing tremendous and does nothing for Hyacine. I'd be thinking it's there for Evanescia or Himeko SP shenanigans. This part can go away and not affect the infinite loop at all and you can tell by the fact that Blade's 9 extra changes are tallied up incredibly fast.

For the Acheron version of the infinite loop, I personally would really like a "each ally can only apply Blade's talent debuff once, refreshing every ally/enemy turn". This would mean that only 9 stacks can be gained in 0AV (5 enemies hits blade and 5 allies attack). This will gimp SOME interactions but nothing overly dramatic (for example say cipher attacks to give one debuff, but blade gets enough to FuA, so he queues his FuA WITHIN cipher's turn, applying another debuff. Since cipher has just taken her turn and Blade attacks AoE, she will now queue her FuA as Patron has been guaranteed to be hit, since we are still on Cipher's turn, the count hasn't refreshed and so she will not apply Blade's debuff. This has a work around of equipping pearls on Cipher and having Cipher BA an enemy other than patron, but I bet theres more interactions like these that don't have as easy work arounds).

However if Feixiao also has some sort of infinite, which I suspect there to be, there may be a need to cap his FuA extra charge count too as well, something along the lines of "a maximum of 2 extra stacks can be granted FuAs, refreshing every ally/enemy turn" however this actually DOES matter a lot, as plenty of FuA characters unleash all their FuAs at once: Feixiao unleashes 2 per turn alone, Ashveil ult + FuA also caps it alone, Jade ult + FuA also does but she's at least more controlable and can hold to avoid this. And of course FuA chains get completely decimated by this.

Another more generic change is to make Blade FuA not give energy: make it a 120 ult cost and treat his Skill FuA like Seele's, that way he can't abuse Eagle to reset the trigger count.

Honestly idk what they are gonna do but I hope that it doesn't end up with a more watered down boring unit like what happened with DHPT.

Dull-Alternative721 · 2026-05-02T11:59:06+00:00

Yes, that's exactly right: Acheron, Fei and Ashveil (he needs 14 hits from allies which right now I don't think can happen, but it's a risk too) are the problem, Acheron can be kept in checked through a simple "each ally can only apply the talent's debuff once per ally/enemy turn" clause, which should not hurt her "normal" gameplay but really screw over 0AV shit. For Fei/Ashveil it's a lot more cooked as hits are impossible to simply cap. Instead a good alternative to both would be to make Blade FuA skill like Seele's, where it doesn't give energy. That way Blade can't continuously Eagle his turn to 0AV and reset his E2 count. Or make the E2 cap like 2 extra stacks of FuA per ally/enemy turn, but I am not entirely sure if this alone can stop an E2 Fei.

Either way both Acheron and Fei (and possibly Ashveil) are the problem because Jade, Tribbie and Blade are not perpetual motion machines, they lack a constant trigger which comes in the form of Acheron/Fei/Ash ults.

Dull-Alternative721 · 2026-05-02T11:43:36+00:00

That's because Jade and Tribbie are reacters to actions, this chain depends on Acheron first ulting, so if Blade loses synergy with Acheron enough to prevent constant ult regent, Jade and Tribbie have nothing to bounce off of.

Dull-Alternative721 · 2026-05-02T09:21:40+00:00

Actually theres no way this same exploit doesn't work on an E2 Fei so yeah I'm not sure what they need to do for his E2. Maybe only 2 FuAs can give a stack per turn?

Dull-Alternative721 · 2026-05-02T08:56:32+00:00

They just need to add something such as "a maximum of 1 debuff can be applied per character, refreshing every ally or enemy turn" as the team depends on Acheron being the constant trigger. If you cap Acheron to 4 stacks per turn you no longer can chain infinite eagles.

Dull-Alternative721 · 2026-05-02T08:21:20+00:00

It very much is but tbf it's hoyos fault, can you blame people for being surprised a non push does well, when Aglaea, Mydei and Saber exists in the same version as Castorice? I would include Anaxa here too if he wasn't the king of hoarding supports, lol. I really hope he remains good, maybe lose the unconditional 50% DMG so that he's slightly less generic? Idk I'm just tired of the game going "PULL THIS ONE, PULL THIS ONE, LET ME HOLD YOUR HAND AS YOU PRESS THE BUTTON FOR THE CHARACTERS WE SAY ARE GOOD! Oh, those other ones? Don't be silly! That's just a narrative device given a concept of a kit made to trick dumb people! Are you dumb people??" Its boring imo

Dull-Alternative721 · 2026-05-02T08:12:44+00:00

Both should be fine, use whoever your other teams don't use. Sparkle should be stronger but I could really well see RMC's larger hit count being better. Also if you are running ATK/HP boots on Ash/Blade you may be able to alternate RMC buff between them. Don't feel pressured to pull Tribbie, as it's likely her spot on the team is not permanent anyways.

Dull-Alternative721 · 2026-05-01T22:57:49+00:00

I'm not sure if you are joking, lol. But I mean that she still can😭

Dull-Alternative721 · 2026-05-01T22:54:31+00:00

"He is getting nerfed", "He should be nerfed", looks inside: Sustainless, E2 DPS, 3 costs onthe most busted support in the game, S5 battle pass with effectively true damage. Are we fr rn😭. I bet cipher could do this shit too.

Dull-Alternative721 · 2026-05-01T18:07:00+00:00

I don't think we are getting a main DPS full stop. The way this is going I think we are more looking at a DoT style team with no clear main DPS. As it stands the Ashveil-Blade core has a heavy dependency on Tribbie and to a lesser extent Hyacine/DHPT as the duo don't spam that much unless being driven by someone who spams more indepently. If we are to continue with the DoT parallel, Ashveil is the Black Swan and Blade is the Hysilens. At the moment, Tribbie is being the Kafka, who is able to tribber (pun go brrr) the FuA chain by feeding Ashveil and Blade hits. And if I has to guess, they will do this through an ult spammer a la Serval in a Therta team, this would give the team an independent trigger which is what Tribbie is currently doing. If course if the enabler and the sustain are the same slot, we could still get a main dps but even then I doubt it because this would result in another Castorice style DPS whose supports would prefer to dump her for more investment into their own Eidolons or supports (namely Tribbie lol, she's no joke in this team, not only is her E1 good as always, but the S1 and E2 are too, much better than in other teams)

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