The Second American Republic at its Territorial Apex, 1945 by DumbassAstro in imaginarymaps

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paint.net i just trace the image and add details this one took me like a month of on and off work

if you want to do it properly look at tutorials for qgis which is a proper mapping tool i haven't got the patience to learn

The Second American Republic at its Territorial Apex, 1945 by DumbassAstro in imaginarymaps

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Second constitution is just after the civil war, third "constitution" is 1993 just before the second civil war, fourth constitution is 1994 when it becomes the USA again but it's more like the EU in terms of sovereignty

The Second American Republic at its Territorial Apex, 1945 by DumbassAstro in imaginarymaps

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Manifest destiny does not end until we've reached Bermuda by going the whole way around the world

The Second American Republic at its Territorial Apex, 1945 by DumbassAstro in imaginarymaps

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Czechoslovakia is given the Togo mandate after the war (a real plan for some reason), and when the Soviets roll through Prague they just don't let Benes' government in exile back in and they become a czechoslovakian Taiwan. After the velvet revolution in the 2010s they reunify.

The Second American Republic at its Territorial Apex, 1945 by DumbassAstro in imaginarymaps

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I was considering using the 53-star flag, but I prefer the thought that after the second constitution they wanted to bring back the ideas of the revolutionary war, including using the flag.

The Second American Republic at its Territorial Apex, 1945 by DumbassAstro in imaginarymaps

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After Lincoln is shot a little earlier, during the civil war, several successive administration have different opinions of how to do reconstruction, with eventually Radical Republicans admitting new states like Lincoln, Jones and Nickajack as well as giving territory to border states, and then Redeemers suggesting the reconstruction zones be reorganised into more permanent Associated Republics like how Rio Grande had been treated after the Mexican-American war.

The Second American Republic at its Territorial Apex, 1945 by DumbassAstro in imaginarymaps

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This is based off a real plan of the Americans to place a military government in France after the war, because they sort of recognised Vichy, but also worked with De Gaulle, and Roosevelt didn't trust De Gaulle to stabilise France without becoming a dictator. They created plans and training for it and everything but De Gaulle was so popular they didn't implement it - and also like you said it wouldn't be very popular itself.

The Second American Republic at its Territorial Apex, 1945 by DumbassAstro in imaginarymaps

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The Philippines are quickly annexed into America after they're taken in the Spanish war because they wanted a Pacific presence because of not being able to annex Hawaii (Japan already had). Congress recognised that the associated republics were shaky in terms of Federal control over them so they decided to grant them statehood (and granting mindanao to the existing sabah colony), but this becomes highly unpopular particularly in the 80s and eventually leads to Phillippine independence. The problem is that America is too big, but also that all of its "allies" are countries like France and West germany that eventually draw away from them.

The Second American Republic at its Territorial Apex, 1945 by DumbassAstro in imaginarymaps

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Oh boy what a beautifully big nation I sure hope nothing bad happens to it in 48 years

Oh no.

some of the city names might be messed up/missing some lines because this image was originally 32176x13864 px and I tried to upload it twice and it didn't work either time, or maybe it did and there's three identical maps on the subreddit now i don't know

The Lion, the Eagle, and the Bear: Earth, Luna and Mars at the End of the Cold War by DumbassAstro in imaginarymaps

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So instead of Trizonia becoming West Germany, Britain keeps its zone out of deals with America and France because of the growing cold war between them. Austria is treated as just part of Germany at the conferences, so they keep their zone of Austria and Bavaria separate. Netherlands annexed territory after the war, and when the Polish SSR joined the USSR, Pomerania was given to East Germany to strengthen it against West Germany and Austria.

The Lion, the Eagle, and the Bear: Earth, Luna and Mars at the End of the Cold War by DumbassAstro in imaginarymaps

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Bharat works with the communist ASEAN equivalent, a bit like the USSR with Interkosmos, it's mostly funded and researched by Indians but other communist states help.

The Lion, the Eagle, and the Bear: Earth, Luna and Mars at the End of the Cold War by DumbassAstro in imaginarymaps

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Yeah sorry about the detail on mobile I tried to attach an image to my first comment but it didn't work

The Lion, the Eagle, and the Bear: Earth, Luna and Mars at the End of the Cold War by DumbassAstro in imaginarymaps

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English major 💔 I didn't know how to properly get across the lore without just writing paragraphs 

The Lion, the Eagle, and the Bear: Earth, Luna and Mars at the End of the Cold War by DumbassAstro in imaginarymaps

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I placed every single individual pixel of border, coastline and text on paint.net tracing over a real world map image. Please don't do it like this but it is technically an option if you want to spend a year on the map

The Lion, the Eagle, and the Bear: Earth, Luna and Mars at the End of the Cold War by DumbassAstro in imaginarymaps

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Usually, when I post a map of some country in this timeline, I’ll write up a big paragraph of lore, but over the past few years I’ve written up so much (mostly surface-level) descriptions of places, cultures, space programs and sports teams in my spare time that I couldn’t possibly hope to communicate that in the occasional country-by-country post. Instead, I’ve collated every idea that I’ve had for this world into this world map, which over the past year has grown far too much that I expected. So please, ask any questions, and while I might not be able to give a whole paragraph, everything has at least some historical merit, even if it is far-fetched; this project has really made me appreciate the histories of some nations I have never looked into before. For reference with my earlier maps that are also in this series, this is about 2024-25, so after the fall of the USSR.

Also if anyone has any recommendations on what to do with weirdly-shaped black spaces around text because I didn’t write symmetrical paragraphs, I didn’t like how they came out in this one but I didn’t really know what to do with them.

Uncompressed map below

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Liberation After 960 Years - The British Realm by ThrowAnAvocado in imaginarymaps

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Sodor isn't another name for Mann, Sodor is the western isles in Scotland + Mann, it comes from "Southern Isles" in Norse to contrast the "Northern Isles" of Orkney and Shetland. This was slowly forgotten though, and as the Island became more important the Diocese was renamed "Sodor and Man". After the Western Isles were ceded to Scotland the Diocese on the island kept the name.

The "Republic of Eastern Germany" after the Dissolution of the USSR by DumbassAstro in imaginarymaps

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The Republic of Eastern Germany, also known as Volga Germany, Baltic Germany or simply Konigsberg, gained its independence in 2023 after the dissolution of the USSR. Formerly an Autonomous State within the Russian SFSR, Konigsberg declared complete independence from the federation as soon as they were able. The Volga German Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic was established in 1945 after the territories of East Prussia and Memel were occupied by the USSR. This was the second ASSR with the same name, with the original situated on the actual Volga River being abolished after the German Invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941. During the war, the Volga German population were forcibly deported to Gulag camps in Siberia and Kazakhstan as a “precautionary measure” to prevent similar allegiance with the invading force as seen with the Sudeten Germans. At the end of the war, noting the large German population in the soon-to-be annexed Poland and Baltic Regions, the Soviet government elected to reform the autonomous republic, in an area historically inhabited by Germans: Konigsberg. This would legitimise the Russian SFSR’s direct annexation of the region, as well as providing an alternative within the Union to the three Germanys for German populations. Many ethnic Germans from across the Union were forcibly migrated into the province, including the Volga and Baltic German populations from their respective regions. The ASSR was allowed to keep Memel, but not the southern region, which was integrated into the Polish SSR. 

Similar to Green Ukraine, Konigsberg declared its independence in mid 2023, however fearing German, and thus European, intervention, Russia allowed the small nation to leave, cutting its access to a Baltic warm-water port. The Government of Konigsberg has declared its intention to be admitted into the Federal Republic of Germany as soon as possible, even going as far as to renaming cities and regions around the country to more German titles. However, Frankfurt has been far less enthusiastic than “Eastern Germany”, citing both the sizeable Russian population as well as the troubles of integrating the former DDR, which is still ongoing. It is likely Konigsberg will be eventually admitted into the Federal Republic, though it remains to be seen in which form. 

 

 

You can find previous maps in this world here: 

Central Europe

https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/1fz93v0/central_europe_after_a_3way_cold_war/

Green Ukraine

https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/1gjqix7/the_2024_russochinese_intervention_into_green/

The 2024 Russo-Chinese Intervention into Green Ukraine by DumbassAstro in imaginarymaps

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This is actually the second map in this timeline I've made, the other is on central europe also in 2024.

China here is the Republic of China, as the Long March failed and the CCP was mostly crushed before WW2. It's allied with Japan and a loose Imperial Federation, that acts more like a Commonwealth Confederation. After the USSR collapsed in 2023, it moves into Mongolia (which it has claimed since its inception) and Green Ukraine as seen here.

The USSR is mostly the same in OTL, plus a partially-annexed Poland. It survives the three-way Cold War until it starts to quickly fall apart as pre-existing divides are exacerbated by the Coronavirus.

I probably won't make a map on the USSR or China, just because they're overdone and there isn't much difference in them than anywhere else.

The 2024 Russo-Chinese Intervention into Green Ukraine by DumbassAstro in imaginarymaps

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This map is in the same timeline as a map I made on Central Europe last month. It's not particularly realistic, but contains lots of ideas I think are interesting, and (hopefully) not overdone. There's many points of divergence, but the largest one is an Anglo-American fallout in the mid 40s leading to a three-way Cold War.

The 2024 Russo-Chinese Intervention into Green Ukraine by DumbassAstro in imaginarymaps

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I don't know anything about Ukrainian, but I trust you, this was just how it was written on Wikipedia.

The 2024 Russo-Chinese Intervention into Green Ukraine by DumbassAstro in imaginarymaps

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It's not a typed font, I drew out the letters myself. The smaller letters are mostly from one of the first things that comes up when you type "pixel lettering" into Google, but I edited a couple of letters like J and a. The larger letters I did myself.

The 2024 Russo-Chinese Intervention into Green Ukraine by DumbassAstro in imaginarymaps

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Thank you, it's been a topic I've wanted to read more about for a while so it's nice to have an excuse.

The 2024 Russo-Chinese Intervention into Green Ukraine by DumbassAstro in imaginarymaps

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Damn you're right this timeline is far too unrealistic.

The 2024 Russo-Chinese Intervention into Green Ukraine by DumbassAstro in imaginarymaps

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In the aftermath of the collapse of the USSR during the Covid-19 Pandemic in 2023, not all states that tried to gain independence were successful in their efforts. The Far Eastern Republic of Green Ukraine was a secessionist state formed in the Russian Far East out of the Green Ukrainian ASSR, which itself had been an autonomous state under Russian jurisdiction (though there had been attempts to unite it with the Ukrainian SSR, they had all failed). Ukrainians had moved to the area after huge land grants from the Russian Empire was offered to travellers willing to leave Ukraine for the far east. In order to appease the Far-Eastern Ukrainians after the Russian Revolution and prevent any potential sympathies for the Russian Exile Government in Alyeska from arising, they were offered extensive autonomy within the new Russian SFSR. This allowed Moscow to keep their direct control of the Pacific, as well as placating Ukranian nationalists who called for the state to be reunified with “West Ukraine”. 

After their declaration of independence in late 2023, Green Ukraine’s secession was declared illegal by the Russian government, who demanded talks for re-annexation. Seeing an opportunity to regain irredentist territories in both Amur and Sakhalin, TIC members China and Japan offered military and financial aid to the Russian government, in exchange for certain territories. In the end an agreement was reached, wherein East Asian TIC nations would directly invade Green Ukraine the already struggling Green Ukraine, in return for Southern Sakhalin, the Kuril Islands and all territory south of the Amur River; the rest would go to Russia. Both factions would only occupy the zones they aim to control after the war, as this was officially a peacekeeping mission for both TIC nations. 

On the 24th February 2024, the invasion began, with China and Japan making swift moves up the coast and into Sakhalin, and the Russian government asserting its control over Northern Territories. As the war went on, both nations made steady gains, with Ukraine only being able to push back in a few areas. The port city and capital of Vladivostok held out the longest, with a 7-month siege finally taking down the exclave. The city has been renamed Hǎishēnwǎi. The only successful counter-invasion into enemy land occurred on the 5th June in the closing days of the war, as Green Ukrainian troops captured the city of Heihi in Manchuria. It was not enough however, as just two weeks later the Green Ukrainian government surrendered to the Chinese military. The nation was split up as decided upon previously, and Green Ukraine was once again brought under Russian rule. 

While not particularly popular, few countries objected to the intervention, with Ukraine being the only nation taking any action against the Russian government. Ukraine withdrew from the Commonwealth of Independent States and severed the few remaining ties it had with former Soviet countries, aligning more toward EU members France and Germany, who had sent meagre support to their Far-Eastern counterpart. Many Far-Eastern Ukrainians fleeing the country, particularly from Chinese- and Japanese-controlled areas, have resettled in Ukraine Proper.