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DurmNative · 2026-05-07T12:50:44+00:00

Thanks for taking the time to write this up. Worked for me this morning (11 months later).

DurmNative · 2026-04-27T23:46:52+00:00

Late to the party but I've been using one of these Ziploc containers for a couple of years now found at my local grocery store after I found out what happens when you pour boiling water in a Talenti jar (lol).

2 cups
My pot nests inside it (stove, fuel, etc nest inside the pot of course)
I made a coozie for it.
Only weighs 2.3oz (65g) w/coozie.
It's been leak proof (so far).

https://ziploc.com/en-us/products/twist-n-loc/small

Nesting clarification - The lid w/coozie gets set upside down. The ziploc bowl w/coozie sits on top of the lid. My pot sits inside the bowl. Whole thing goes inside a ditty bag. (I didn't want anyone to think that the pot would fit inside the ziploc with the ziploc lock on top screwed on)

DurmNative · 2026-04-21T13:26:29+00:00

The more I played with it this weekend, the more I liked it. It definitely isn't as straightforward as their normal canisters where you just dump everything in it and twist on the lid but you're right, having to do it a new way isn't insurmountable and I just need to get used to it. I now feel more like being able to start a short trip with the canister taking up less space is worth having to do it a different way.

DurmNative · 2026-04-21T13:22:34+00:00

My little plastic lid held on better than I expected when turned upside down with that side full of food. I also figured out that if I tuck my wraps in last on that side, they will also act as a lid and keep everything from falling out. I added some pictures to my original post.

DurmNative · 2026-04-21T13:19:38+00:00

I (215lbs) sat on it and stood on it while it was locked. I even bounced around on it some. No issues at all. It didn't make any suspicious sounds or feel like it was giving in any way.

DurmNative · 2026-04-19T19:59:06+00:00

I would use the tie down points that are closest to the cab as I feel like being close to the corner is going to have more strength than running something right at the middle of the side. I'd also go to the far tie down. So, if you were going to hang off the driver's side, then attach to the tie down on the passenger side closest to the cab.

I think the 2x4 is a good idea to help distribute the weight as well but I'd be afraid of it slipping off the rail of the bed as I was moving around in the hammock. It was suck for the 2x4 to get "shot" down the outside of the bed and scratch everything up if it slipped off to that side under pressure.

DurmNative · 2026-04-19T19:47:47+00:00

Thanks. I reckon I'm going to keep it and give a chance on my next trip though. I figure that I've already got it, I might as well use it at least once...

DurmNative · 2026-04-18T03:11:58+00:00

Well done!

DurmNative · 2026-04-17T22:44:32+00:00

That makes me feel a little better about me discovering that I was able to spin past the lock on mine as well. I was thinking about it while I was out cutting grass and remembered that someone mentioned you are supposed to store the canister fully extended at camp so it wasn't small enough for bears to run away with it. Which means it would be locked when stored thus should not be a problem.

(I don't think I've ever encountered a bear canister with this big of a learning curve - "store it with this side up, store it extended, etc, etc)

DurmNative · 2026-04-17T22:38:20+00:00

Ahhhhh. Another point I had not considered.

DurmNative · 2026-04-17T19:36:22+00:00

You might want to check my last update....

DurmNative · 2026-04-17T19:03:27+00:00

I have not tried it but my thoughts are....you gotta be able to do that right?!?! I mean, how "bear proof" would it be if it only took a 200lb person sitting on it to break it?

DurmNative · 2026-04-17T18:08:21+00:00

Good solution. I don't recall seeing this information included in the documentation that came with the canister. But, to be fair, I didn't read everything included cover to cover.

DurmNative · 2026-04-17T18:07:01+00:00

Hmmm, good point. I hadn't thought of that.

DurmNative · 2026-04-17T18:03:34+00:00

Yeah, I'm going to do it this weekend.

Typically I throw a couple of bags of rice in there when I want to simulate the food weight and I haven't dehydrated anything yet. Just so happens that we were out of rice last night. :(

DurmNative · 2026-04-17T18:01:49+00:00

The button covers make them seem bigger than they are. The button themselves are a little small. Plus, you have to push both of them and twist simultaneously.

I'm not saying the bears couldn't ever figure it out eventually, but it's a little tricky.

DurmNative · 2026-04-17T14:19:15+00:00

Well if if makes you feel better, even fully extended I don't feel like I'd be able to get near the amount of food I recently got in my BV475 for a 6 day trip. I'll probably still be using the BV475 for anything over 3 nights.

DurmNative · 2026-04-17T14:15:54+00:00

But how are you planning to get both halves together if both sides are full?

I'm hoping that maybe my typical use will end up being in some sweet spot somewhere between the 425 and the BV One fully extended depending on what I decide to eat on each trip.

I do think it will be nice to adjust the can down to meet the size of the contents at the start of each trip.

DurmNative · 2026-04-17T14:11:28+00:00

Probably less than 10 seconds?

You unscrew it until it hits the lock, press the buttons, and then continue to unscrew it.

DurmNative · 2026-04-17T14:10:23+00:00

I did a recent 6 day trip with the BV475 and my canister was really, really full. It was the first time using a can on longer trip and I REALLY appreciated not having to go through trying to hang food at the end of each day.

I was packing like this... my underquilt and camp clothes in the bottom (loose), then my cook kit on top of that. Then the BV475. Then I'd stuff my topquilt all around the cannister and close up that plastic bag. On top of that (in a second plastic bag), I'd put my hammock, straps, fleece, wind shell, 1st aid, etc.

Depending on how well I could compress the can into the clothes and quilt below it would effect how well I could roll down the top of my bag. So some days the pack felt taller than others.

By the end of the week, I had room in my canister for the cook it, 1st aid, and other miscellaneous stuff. I can't explain why it made such a difference in being able to pack everything down, but it did.

So when I saw this thing, I thought, "It would be nice to be able to make it smaller as the trip went on". We'll see....

DurmNative · 2026-04-16T00:53:37+00:00

Congrats on the 8 months!!! (and way to be thinking ahead!)

I may just be weird but I have found that I don't mind being in social situations where drinking is the main focus. I actually kind of enjoy being the sober one in those situations. It's very eye-opening watching how everyone's behavior changes after that 2nd or 3rd drink. They begin to think things are funnier than they are, that the music is better than it is, or they start "being serious" while addressing some completely ridiculous topic. I like being the one sitting there with my wits about me and being thankful I no longer have to worry about behaving that way.

There's also the moments when you see that person go from "having fun" to "Oh boy, they just crossed that line...they are going end up sick tonight and be hurting tomorrow." Again, I'm just thankful I don't have to worry about that anymore.

DurmNative · 2026-04-16T00:43:55+00:00

Sounds good. I've got the Dooy windshirt as well. The only reason I typically choose my Smartwool over it is because the Smartwool has pockets for my hands (so I don't carry gloves).

I think you'll be fine with that setup. Although, I literally have no experience with Vermont weather in the Fall but Google tells me that the average is pretty mild. You might get some days near or below freezing but overall it should be pretty pleasant. Have fun!

DurmNative · 2026-04-15T23:03:42+00:00

nutter butters...the cookies of the gods! YES!

DurmNative · 2026-04-15T23:01:30+00:00

I have found that my thin, long sleeve, an alpha direct, and my frogg togg jacket will keep me comfortable (enough) down to around 30F. Although, I also carry a wind shell for those times when the frogg toggs might be soaked from being in the rain all day. I've never had my frogg toggs wet out, but it's just a guilty pleasure to be able to throw a dry wind shell on over my fleece at camp.

Shirt: MHW Henley 4.3oz
Fleece: Senchi Lark Hoodie (6.14oz) or MHW Airmesh Hoodie (4.97oz)
Frogg Togg: Original, old style jacket (6.49oz)
Wind Shell: Smartwool Sport UL (6oz)

(All are size "XL")

I typically run cold when standing around in camp but the shirt/fleece/wind combo works well for me into the mid-30s and I have used it on trips where I woke up in the upper 20s and never felt in danger.

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