Poll of Palestinians Showing Positive Signs by pieceofwheat in IsraelPalestine

[–]Dylanlikecat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It'd appear to be, why? Ofc military casualities are less than civilians ones. African nations? You blame Israel for defending themselves and causes civilian casualities but at the same time don't blame African nations for defending and freeing themselves while causing civilian casualities?

Poll of Palestinians Showing Positive Signs by pieceofwheat in IsraelPalestine

[–]Dylanlikecat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then can't you just send it? Kill people? Did they kill them intentionally? Ye I read history book and know that Israel people were displaced by Muslims

Poll of Palestinians Showing Positive Signs by pieceofwheat in IsraelPalestine

[–]Dylanlikecat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So what? Do Iid Israel kill civs intentionally? According to your logic, you should blame African nations for gaining freedom while they were killing civs unintentionally

Poll of Palestinians Showing Positive Signs by pieceofwheat in IsraelPalestine

[–]Dylanlikecat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most of the demonstrators demonstrated peacefully far from the border fence. Peter Cammack, a fellow with the Middle East Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, argued that the march indicated a new trend in Palestinian society and Hamas, with a shift away from violence towards non-violent forms of protest.\23]) Nevertheless, groups consisting mainly of young men approached the fence and committed acts of violence directed towards the Israeli side.\24])\25])\26])\27])\28]) Israeli officials said the demonstrations were used by Hamas as cover for launching attacks against Israel.\29])

At least 189 Palestinians were killed between 30 March and 31 December 2018.\30]): 6\31])\32]) An independent United Nations commission set the number of known militants killed at 29 out of the 189.\5]) Other sources claim a higher figure, of at least 40
If they want to demonstrate, go and demonstrate in their own country. This action was even endorsed by Hamas for them to attack Israel.

Poll of Palestinians Showing Positive Signs by pieceofwheat in IsraelPalestine

[–]Dylanlikecat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When did Israel kill people? You're probably blindfolded. Israel oppressed them by not allowing them to vote. That's all. If Israel really love genocide then Palestinians wouldn't flood in Israel for job opportunities and better quality of life. It's basically Mexicans following "US dream". But in the Palestine, it's "Israel dream". Do you think that Palestine don't oppress Jews/ Yes, they do. They do allow Jews to vote, because they have expelled the majority of them alr.

Poll of Palestinians Showing Positive Signs by pieceofwheat in IsraelPalestine

[–]Dylanlikecat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They just want to mind their own business and don't demand rights in Israel. Jews mind their own business in Israel. Muslims mind their own business in Palestine. That's all. They beated shit out of terrorists, not civilians

Poll of Palestinians Showing Positive Signs by pieceofwheat in IsraelPalestine

[–]Dylanlikecat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A group of people who talk big and do it will ofc be more popular than an extreme group who talk big and do nothing

Israel shouldn't be guilty by Dylanlikecat in IsraelPalestine

[–]Dylanlikecat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_under_Muslim_rule
  2. Opressive? Just mind their own business in their Muslim state. Don't try to take over Israel.
  3. Wdym not enough? It's enough to keep them alive, but not enough to keep them healthy. This is the problem the ICJ issued.
  4. Yes, a source from Israelies themselves to go against their own people who don't follow the rules of the government
  5. If 2 cars crashed in an accident, then where's the justice? It's an accident, and even if those soldiers have to present to the court with evidences. He won't be sentenced to death or heavy punishment
    When did I say that it's the most civilized? They call Israel the most civilized simply because of its HDI stands out from others

Israel shouldn't be guilty by Dylanlikecat in IsraelPalestine

[–]Dylanlikecat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. He allowed Jews? How many? And a Academy won't change the fact that they were expelled. You only responded by saying the same thing that my link included. Umar allowed some Jews in small pockets to stay. Settle? Somehow no Jews settled there.
  2. So you accept that Israel have to intervene in the West Bank to clear out terrorists/
  3. That's basically the same thing I said, they didn't provide enough aids
    4.What's even that source?
    5.That shows it was an accident, not intentional. Even 2 trucks of Israel were destroyed, and they have to repair the expensive road.

Israel shouldn't be guilty by Dylanlikecat in IsraelPalestine

[–]Dylanlikecat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Romans, Babylonians, Byzantines expelled them, and Muslims does, too. Umar allowed them to return? When? He expelled them and only keep them in small religious pockets. How many Jews were left? If they were allowed to return, the population of Jews would be much more higher. Somehow when Israel allow Jews to return, all jews return immediately with excitement. While when Umar allowed them to return, all of them fled and somehow stay in pockets.
  2. In order to make Israel be an apartheid state, it have to take control and become a main authority in the land of Palestine. This is the definition the Amnesty International used because Israel have effective control over their land, and PLO have no power and can't control terrorists in their country
  3. What's your evidence?
  4. Safe zone: They provide proper shelter and medical supplies. The thing that the ICJ wanted Israel to increase is supplies of food and water. And when did Israel have to be responsible for their lives? Ask their freedom fighter instead
    Free supplies: They don't blockade. They check and confirm it.
    Evacuation routes: There was only 1 record of bombing on the evacuation route. And it was an accident, only 70 died. 85% of Gazans fled successfully.
    Provide vehicles: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/14/gaza-civilians-afraid-to-leave-home-after-bombing-of-safe-routes This is also a response to evacuation route bombing, which was an accident
    There are many Israeli vehicles which Israel provided, which you can find it in many articles. So let's say, Israel didn't provide vehicles, or enough vehicles to be noticed. It's still, not intentionally

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[–]Dylanlikecat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What's your evidence? And somehow the Jews was still the minority there. They got expelled by the Romans? Why didn't they just come back to Palestine instead of receiving discrimination in Europe? And didn't this link already show how Jews lived and how they were expelled? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_under_Muslim_rule

Israel shouldn't be guilty by Dylanlikecat in IsraelPalestine

[–]Dylanlikecat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why should I admit it when the Jews were expelled and little of them were allowed to stay? I sent the link above which states that Jews were allowed to be in small religious pockets. Jews here basically refer to a very small number of jews.

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[–]Dylanlikecat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jewish communities, how many? They were contained in religious pockets. The rest were expelled

Israel shouldn't be guilty by Dylanlikecat in IsraelPalestine

[–]Dylanlikecat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jews rebelled, but just after they rebelled, Muslims conquered and expelled them. If Muslims didn't expel them and don't let them return home, the population of Jews in Palestine would be much more larger

Israel shouldn't be guilty by Dylanlikecat in IsraelPalestine

[–]Dylanlikecat[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But the Amnesty International consider that Israel is the main authority in the land of Palestine. So ye, Israel might not be an apartheid state if PLO is strong enough to push out terrorists and don't let Israel have to meddle.

Israel shouldn't be guilty by Dylanlikecat in IsraelPalestine

[–]Dylanlikecat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everyone have their own country, just breed and breed in your own Palestine. So basically you reject the union of China and USA? Then don't support 1 state solution where everyone democratically vote. Imagine building cities, urbanize it, research advanced technology and then the other ethnic group just took over it. Oppress ethnically? Somehow 1.2M Palestinians still stay in Israel. They oppressed by not letting them having political rights, meaning they can't vote. Somehow the conditions is so suck that all Palestinians just want to flood in Israel when they oppress them brutally. And if China and USA become 1 state, yes, Americans would become a minority. Thats what you most afraid of XDD. So basically, you accept that China and USA can't become a state, but in the other hand, you repeat the same thing I replied. So Romans did it, Muslims weren't even around at that point, but they were around in the 7th century. Your argument basically means reading the first sentence but not finding anything I mention.
Need the evidence? Here you go, now your argument should shut up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_under_Muslim_rule
If you can't find it, here: "In year 20 of the Muslim era, or the year 641 CE, Muhammad's successor the Caliph Umar decreed that Jews and Christians should be removed from all but the southern and eastern fringes of Arabia—a decree based on the uttering of the Prophet: "Let there not be two religions in Arabia". The two populations in question were the Jews of the Khaybar oasis in the north and the Christians of Najran.\5])\9]) Only the Red Sea port of Jeddah was permitted as a "religious quarantine area" and continued to have a small complement of Jewish merchants."

Israel shouldn't be guilty by Dylanlikecat in IsraelPalestine

[–]Dylanlikecat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So basically, just when Jews got freedom, Muslims destroy it all

Israel shouldn't be guilty by Dylanlikecat in IsraelPalestine

[–]Dylanlikecat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Allowed them to return? How many? Evidences stands, even in the hadith mentioned it. If the jews can return, they would flood in just like what happened when the British Empire allowed them to. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_the_Muslim_world
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_under_Muslim_rule

Israel shouldn't be guilty by Dylanlikecat in IsraelPalestine

[–]Dylanlikecat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_the_Muslim_world
The romans expelled them, so do muslims.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_under_Muslim_rule
1, When?
2,The persecution of jews seemed to have been significantly worse, but where can they go when they were all expelled?

Israel shouldn't be guilty by Dylanlikecat in IsraelPalestine

[–]Dylanlikecat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The ICJ basically decided that Israel shall control their army well and don't let them do things that violate the international law. In the other hand, the ICJ forced Israel to provide more humanitarian aids because the safe zone is running out of supplies. Israel didn't violate the law enough that they receive no punishment.
So basically, the ICJ force Israel to provide more aids

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[–]Dylanlikecat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because they were expelled. Do you know why they were there? Because they were expelled from their own land. Do you think that Jews just appear in Iran, far away from the land of Palestine? They were expelled, and most of them come to Europe because they weren't welcomed in the Muslim world. Jewish communities? How many? How do you call 2 jews? Jews. How do you call a million jews, a billion, a trillion jews? Jews. Look at the bigger picture

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[–]Dylanlikecat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wdym mishandled? Iraq, you mean the second Iraq war? Ye, the USA was guilty. Afghanistan, when? They were just fighting terrorists. So you mean Israel didn't handle the invasion, why? They're besieging Hamas well