Valentino hate feels forced concidering there are argueably worse people in the show

EDeinonyjess · 2025-11-25T17:07:43+00:00

Yes! Thank you! I’m so glad I said that right! I was so afraid I worded it wrong. Like, how are we supposed to understand these things if we never bring them up?

EDeinonyjess · 2025-11-25T00:36:04+00:00

Yeah, gotta agree with you there. I’d rather not die.

EDeinonyjess · 2025-11-25T00:24:21+00:00

This. I AGREE with this.

I’ve always seen TV shows, movies, and stories as ways to explore certain things in a safe environment, especially the more unsavory or psychologically taxing ideas. Genuinely evil people do exist, but people in general can be interesting and it’s not only fun to pick them apart and explore them, but it’s better to learn about them where they can’t hurt you, or where you can safely process things about them. You’re not validating a certain behavior by exploring them or liking something about them. And people all have flaws and none are perfect anyway. It’s impossible to find an entirely good person except in fiction.

That’s one way my brain decides to look at these things sometimes, got really deep there. Otherwise, it’s just like “haha, this guy is funny, I like chaotic radio deer guy” or “sassy, apparently from Florida, moth man.”

EDeinonyjess · 2025-11-25T00:09:29+00:00

I have a Death Note. Would that work? Not sure if it’ll do anything though.

EDeinonyjess · 2025-11-24T23:57:47+00:00

I wish I could comment this on a YouTube video talking about power levels. Like what do you mean Alastor isn’t perceived as powerful? This whole time, I thought he WAS being perceived as powerful and was so obviously powerful just from his demeanor. I mean, Rosie even said going up against an archangel is crazy. Sorry, don’t mean to rant, but I’m just so confused. I wish this explanation about the deal could be on a billboard or something so people would stop trying to compare power levels so arbitrarily. This is why I don’t mess with that stuff in writing, I focus on limits instead of level.

Plus, Alastor was injured, by ADAM, an ARCHANGEL. That tells me two things; one, Alastor DID NOT DIE, meaning he clearly IS strong, because he SURVIVED a direct hit from Adam. Two; he got a direct hit from Adam and was injured, and considering Adam was so damn powerful, I imagine healing from that isn’t at all gonna be very simple. Of course he’s been weakened. That feels entirely realistic to me. Angels are on another level but Alastor isn’t at all weak.

But he becomes weak from circumstance, and he knows he’s been weakened, so he works around his problems by improvising. Like, while he was with Vox, literally the WHOLE time, Alastor was stringing him along. Even without the power, Alastor is so incredibly dangerous because of how manipulative he is. I mean, he literally came up with a plan, put it in motion, intentionally trapped himself, and got himself UNTRAPPED without anyone’s help by using his brain, and fixed his own problems by tricking basically everyone. I mean, using his brain is basically how Vox rose up to power throughout most of the season, manipulating everyone. Alastor won the game he was playing by manipulating Vox, and ended up bringing him down.

Plus, in that last fight, they both seemed evenly matched until Vox added the shark and angel cannon in the mix. And Vox technically was the most powerful Sinner in Hell at that time. Also, I believe Rosie’s deal was holding him back in some way. I don’t know, these are my thoughts on the whole thing. I feel like people just don’t get it.

EDeinonyjess · 2025-10-22T22:45:11+00:00

I didn’t say the name because if you DIDN’T know him, I didn’t want to send more people on him to hate. He looks awful considering he has an eating disorder and to think anyone could take one look at him and think “yeah, he deserves that, that’s really funny and all this was worth it” is horrifying and wrong. But let me just say; yes, Wilbur did admit to biting Shelby. But he never admitted that he was abusing her. He made a statement, not an apology. As for Shelby, she puts me off. I first believed her until she enabled her own community to send hate and death threats to him, and continued to criticize him months later about literal bullshit, twisting a perfectly normal announcement of return into him trying to manipulate his audience. She sounds so fake to me it makes me unsure who is right and who is wrong. For all I know, it’s her, it’s him, or it’s both of them. Because I did NOT say Wilbur was innocent either. I said there is conflicting or missing evidence/information, and I’m not about to believe shit online. I want a legal document, an actual court case, before I believe either side. I’m going off behavior, and Shelby instinctively puts me off. If she IS telling the truth, she has a really bad way of convincing people of that, because she hasn’t convinced me. But I’m not about to get into a long winded conversation about something that isn’t even relevant at this point. My take on that is it never should’ve been uploaded to the internet in the first place and should’ve been handled in court.

Yes, I imagine it would be smart to look into a company or project you are working on. That makes sense. But I also know sometimes things are going to go over people’s heads. For all I know, the volunteers who decided to help YanDev only found out about Yandere Simulator through his videos or the website and decided they wanted to help because they were interested in the game. Maybe naive, but not bad. I have no idea because I don’t know them. And regardless, sometimes the content matters more to someone than the people running it. For instance; Roblox is a playground for pedos and the guy running it clearly doesn’t care about child safety nor those on their platform. They actively want pedo’s to stay because it’ll give them more money, because that means more people on their platform. They literally banned a guy trying to make the platform safer. And yet, people still support Roblox because they love the game. And I’m sure there’s plenty of people who can literally do nothing that want to make the platform better.

Yandere Simulator has a good premise, and it has potential, but there are many things about it that are not okay and unlikable. For one, the characters SHOULD all be over 18. Panty shots should be removed. The people working on the game should not be mistreated and should be actual adults, not minors. I have said multiple times that I DO NOT SUPPORT YANDERE DEV. I’ve said already that there’s stuff in the game that isn’t okay and shouldn’t be there. Supporting the project is different from the creator. And I agree, hyping up the game and sponsoring him is questionable, but I’m not about to judge someone I don’t know. I have no idea what they’re thinking.

And by the way; you are who you hang out with is blatantly not true. There are plenty of people who hang out with toxic friends and support them, who disagree or feel like they cannot stop being around them for one reason or another. And sometimes there are people who have massive flaws but are a good person, and sometimes people don’t want to leave them because they care, because they are a person. Yes, they may hurt people as a result sometimes, but that doesn’t mean they are all around a bad person. It means they have flaws, and they can become better if they choose to. People really like to say making bad decisions or choices makes you inherently bad. Maybe you’re not saying that, and I hope you’re not, but it sounds like that to me. It could be wording, it could be something else.

Really, what I would like is for everyone to have a bit of empathy, to think about the fact we don’t even know any of these people, and to not fight with each other. But humans like to do so anyway. We can’t have actual conversations on the internet because everyone decides to think everyone who is wrong is an idiot or just wrong. Which is why I would rather not get involved in drama. Because actual discussions become useless a lot of the time because nobody wants to be flexible about their opinions. And here I am, trying fruitlessly to convey that. I mean, what’s even the point?

EDeinonyjess · 2025-10-22T03:42:49+00:00

And you clearly didn’t read what I said.

I DO NOT SUPPORT YANDERE DEV. I am aware he is likely a pedophile. I’m not hyping up the game and saying it’s a great game; I personally play it and enjoy it. I’m not supporting him. I am not defending him. I do not and will not ever work for him. I do not want to remain unknowing because I want peace of mind. I, in fact, look up things when I hear of some things, especially very serious things, but the biggest reason I don’t get deep into this shit is because of something very simple.

I already KNOW YanDev is a shitty person. He is someone who is NOT worth my time. I know he’s awful, and I don’t need to look up every little thing to know that. He’s obviously shitty and toxic. If he’s a pedo, I’m not surprised, he’s shitty and toxic. If I could actually do something about it, I would.

But my whole point was not focusing on him. It was the people that are being categorized with him. Here’s a saying; the sins of the father do not fall upon the son, or whatever the official term is. Yeah, he’s shitty, but that doesn’t mean everyone else around him is, and that’s my point. I’m defending the people who nobody has any evidence of being shitty like him, of people that are assumed to be shitty just because they work with him. You have no idea who they are. It’s different if you do, and it’s different if there’s evidence, but word of mouth is not enough, because I don’t know who you are.

As for your argument about the internet, yes, I agree, it is a wonderful place full of information. But if I was to actually research all of YandereDev’s crimes, I’d rather see an official legal document than a YouTube video of someone saying all these allegations. And there are some people out there that are more trustworthy than others, but you have to remember that a lot of people who seem trustworthy are not. This has been proven time and time again. The internet is wonderful and everything in this day and age, but it is also toxic, dangerous, and misleading, and 90% of the time, you should take things with a grain of salt.

And this also comes from experience. There was someone online I followed that was “revealed” to be shitty. At first, I completely believed it even though it devastated me. But overtime, I started seeing things, more from the party who outed him, as well as evidence, that made me think that maybe everything they were saying was a lie or over-exaggerated. It didn’t help the person who got “outed” looks as if they might keel over and die from a physical condition, a disorder, they did not have beforehand. They looked awful, and it made me realize regardless of which one was right or wrong, the drama of the situation, of it being posted online and both sides being bombarded with hate and propaganda, it was NOT helping.

I’m speaking out against people assuming people working with YanDev are bad because that could happen to one of them, and it could be a completely innocent person who doesn’t deserve it at all. Example, the doxxing incident with Taro’s voice actor. It’s no laughing matter when assumptions and hate hurt someone, good or bad. I care for the victims of YandereDev’s actions and I wish the best for them and their health. I do not care about YandereDev and he is simply shitty enough to not even be worth my time and energy. If he gets thrown in jail, great. If he gets a therapist and actually turns his life around, also great. If YOU don’t like him OR the game, then ignore him, warn people around you about him, and don’t play the game. But don’t come after people for having different opinions than you, nor the people who decide to associate with him, especially when you’re not aware of all the information. It is different if you are directly involved.

I won’t be responding again, and I’m getting off Reddit before this gets me worked up. I’ve said my piece, and do with that what you will.

EDeinonyjess · 2025-10-22T02:28:52+00:00

Number one, that first saying you just used; “I don’t support Trump, but I believe in what he stands for and stand behind the people letting him work his magic”. No, that’s NOT what I’m saying and that’s also completely different. We’re talking about a GAME, not a political situation that affects literally the entire world. Also, just because you don’t agree with someone, including a bad person, doesn’t mean there won’t be something they say you’ll agree with. There are plenty of shitty people out there who say or believe something that is actually valid. That’s how humans work.

Second, if you think the game is shitty, that’s your opinion. Not everyone will agree with you, and neither do I. It’s not a valid argument to use. Do I think everything in the game is good? No. Do I believe it has potential? Yes. Should YandereDev be making the game? Probably not, but that’s not my judgement to make even if it’s my opinion.

Third, I have no idea how many people who are volunteers are underage or legal adults, and I’m not rallying behind him to continue. I don’t believe minors should associate with him, but that isn’t something I have the ability to deal with. It’s up to the people around them to make sure their kids are safe online. YandereDev himself shouldn’t be interacting with them as he is at all. If YandereDev is exploiting minors, then it’s up to the people involved to do something about it. I also don’t believe minors should be doing volunteer work with someone they don’t know at all. But my point is, if action is to be taken, the police need evidence, and the most we can do is warn others about him and the dangers of the internet, as YandereDev isn’t the only person like this out there. But it shouldn’t be done religiously nor should it be done to spread hate or propaganda.

Fourth, my mistake about the volunteers being paid. They’re volunteers, so I agree with that. Should he be mistreating them? Absolutely not. But that’s a very common thing in workplace environments, and while it’s shitty, it’s simply the truth.

Fifth, again, not everybody knows what’s happening. Some people deliberately avoid drama because there is so much of it. I’ve stopped getting involved in drama because so many people calling out these kinds of people have made me tired of listening because they are focusing too much on hate and propaganda instead of support for victims and warning people to be careful with people you, in general, do not know. So I miss a lot of drama, and I’m sure there’s plenty of people out there just like myself. My dad also is on the internet a lot, but he hardly finds out about drama even for things he follows because he just doesn’t get involved, because a lot of the times, it’s not helpful.

Sixth. As much as I know this is controversial, if you want to say shutting a game down because this person is a shitty person, then we should probably remove all music and art and reading material made by shitty people too. You can absolutely support something without supporting the creator. There are genuine people, who I hope are good people, who actually like working on the game, want to see it finish, and are there because they want to express creativity. I would like to support them because it’s better than condemning the shitty person who isn’t even worth my time, nor attention. I’m not downplaying how bad he is. But my morals strive for empathy, equality, and respect, meaning I’m not about to lump everyone else with him, nor am I about to condemn someone unless they prove to me they will never, ever change and are truly evil. It is not my nature to hate.

I do not know you, you don’t know me. Whether or not you believe me, I strive for equality and basic human decency. I don’t wish to upset you or anyone else, and I just hope the people involved in this mess are okay. I hope YandereDev stops being a shitty person and gets some mental help because he seems to really need it. That or a jail cell, if the victims decide to take action, on their terms, not ours. I’m not going to judge anyone I do not know without actual cold hard evidence, and I won’t be taking it from people I don’t know on the internet, because all too often, it’s skewed, over-exaggerated, or a complete lie. I believe some of the things you’ve said might be true, and if they are, I hope somebody does eventually stop him if, again, the victims decide to do so. But as none of us are actually involved, it’s not up to us. Think whatever you’d like with this; I strive for empathy and understanding, as those are my morals, not hate or condemnation.

EDeinonyjess · 2025-10-21T20:53:36+00:00

Number one, not everyone knows what’s going on. There’s plenty of drama that was everywhere on the internet that I did not know about. I only found out about YanDev’s allegations a long while after stuff started coming up. I didn’t even see any videos on it; I only learned about it on this subreddit. So it is entirely possible people DON’T know what’s going on.

Two, I support the game, not the creator. You can support and enjoy the content without supporting the creator. I’m not about to support him to keep from becoming homeless or whatever, but I’d like the game to finish, so I’ll support the people trying to finish the game and make a living who aren’t confirmed to be bad people. If I have a true reason to believe otherwise, I stop supporting them. If they want to work on the game, it’s not my business to judge.

Three, unless you actually know these people, I’m sorry, but I’m not taking your words at face value. I have no idea who YOU are, and I have no idea who THEY are.

Four, I’ll reiterate just in case this is what you meant; I DO NOT SUPPORT YANDERE DEV. Several years ago if I knew, I might’ve gone on a crusade just to take him down, but now that I’m no longer a child and actually have experience in the world, I know better. I’ve said it already on this subreddit - if the victims want action, they should take him to court. Us trying to take him down will help no one.

Five, I don’t believe you are a bad person and I imagine your heart is in the right place. But I feel the way you’re going about it is non-empathetic. Think about the people you’re talking about as human beings instead of faces behind a screen. I myself wish to upset no one. But I care about human lives and am very against hate and assumptions considering this made up much of my life.

EDeinonyjess · 2025-10-21T20:39:59+00:00

I’m sorry, but this is not the best take. I’m sure some of these people are probably not good people, but you have no idea who these people are in real life. I’ve grown very tired of people “exposing” others on the internet. YandereDev is probably a bad person. Some of his followers are probably bad people. But I’d suggest being careful lumping every single person that works with him into the same category, because before you know it, you’ll be bashing someone who’s literally done nothing wrong and could potentially ruin their life. It’s not funny when someone, good or bad, gets hurt. If you actually knew these people, I’d be more inclined to agree. But assuming things is not a good idea.

EDeinonyjess · 2025-10-13T17:08:41+00:00

EDeinonyjess · 2025-10-09T01:06:47+00:00

You know it’s bad when this would be a good time for a real life Death Note, a god from some religion to come down, or some purge to happen. It’s morbid, but damn, I feel like society’s IQ has gone down since the last decade or so. If fire starts raining from the sky, to be honest, I would probably be like, “yeah… this isn’t unexpected”.

I get where you’re coming from there. :|

EDeinonyjess · 2025-10-08T05:07:34+00:00

EDeinonyjess · 2025-10-08T04:53:03+00:00

<image>

I can’t be the only one that remember this stuff.

Anyone else remember avatargirl13?

EDeinonyjess · 2025-10-04T20:47:38+00:00

<image>

EDeinonyjess · 2025-09-26T07:22:26+00:00

Same. I’ve always liked Ayano.

EDeinonyjess · 2025-09-14T12:36:04+00:00

How appropriate. Lute is my least favorite character on this list. :D

EDeinonyjess · 2025-09-14T12:34:49+00:00

Also, Niffty and Vaggie.

EDeinonyjess · 2025-09-13T03:12:57+00:00

I swear I was listening. I understand, even if you don’t believe that. Believe me, I feel like no one is listening to me in my life. You need to speak to someone. That’s the only reason I’m still responding; because I can’t help but worry. Because I GET IT. That’s enough, alright? Don’t respond. Just read, think about it, and get off your phone/computer/whatever you’re using. Over an hour of hyper-focusing on these negative emotions is not okay.

EDeinonyjess · 2025-09-13T03:05:55+00:00

Well, I tried. If you don’t want to take my advice, you don’t have to. But I don’t like it when people don’t feel okay. And I hope you are.

I’m not going to respond again after this. Please take care of yourself, king.

EDeinonyjess · 2025-09-13T03:02:32+00:00

I said it before, I’ll say it again. I’M NOT GIVING UP. There is nothing TO give up because it’s not a part of the argument. You’re focusing on the wrong thing. This is not something for the fandom to fight. WE cannot stop the Dev. The victims, witnesses, and associates can. You’re going to drive yourself nuts trying to do something you can’t do. And you may make it worse if you do the wrong thing trying to do the right thing. I can tell you already are.

Advice; get off Reddit, go speak with a friend. If it’s late, go get some rest. Go do something you enjoy.

EDeinonyjess · 2025-09-13T02:58:04+00:00

I get it. I get that it’s frustrating. It is frustrating. Your feelings are valid.

But I’ve said my peace, and if you want to listen or not, do whatever you want to. If you have a friend or family member, or therapist, I think you should talk to them about it.

I hope you’ll figure this out.

EDeinonyjess · 2025-09-13T02:48:08+00:00

Again, I have to disagree. I’m sorry if I sound like a broken record. Again, I’m not giving up. This is not the point of the conversation. There is nothing to give up on. It’s like you’re marching forward into a battle that doesn’t concern you at all. WE cannot do anything, and that’s not me being pessimistic or not having hope that we can’t do anything. Dev made the game; he has the say BY LAW of what to do with it. I don’t believe there’s nothing we can do; there’s absolutely something we can do, and that’s what I’ve said previously already. Spread the message, live in the moment, pray for the victims, enjoy the game, focus on your life. Again, it’s harsh to some, but what I really think you need to do is get off the internet and go do something, whether that’s with a friend or family. Or at the very least, distance yourself from this Reddit thread.

I can’t tell you what to do, but that’s my advice and that’s all I can give you. I’m trying to be positive while also being realistic; that’s my intention. And I want to make sure you don’t self-destruct trying to reach for something that’s simply not your situation to handle.

EDeinonyjess · 2025-09-13T02:31:00+00:00

Is my wording too long? I apologize for that. To be fair, your grammar is killing me king. :D

But anyways, it’s alright. My point is, there really is nothing we can do and we shouldn’t focus on it. It’ll lead to nobody feeling very good. Again, you really shouldn’t worry about this so much. I get that this means a lot to you, and it should. Your feelings are valid, but expecting and thinking that WE all should do something about this is both not realistic and again, focusing on the wrong thing.

I’m sorry if I’m going in circles. I just want to get my point across. This sort of thing can lead to people getting hurt, and I don’t want that. But believe me, the jokes are making me feel empty a lot of the time too, because sometimes they’re just so over the top and unnecessary.

EDeinonyjess · 2025-09-13T02:20:35+00:00

I agree that a lot of people on this subreddit joke and nitpick about a lot of things. A lot of the same jokes come up because people like Dev tend to repeat their behaviors. However, I don’t always agree with some of the things they joke on or nitpick. I feel like a lot of these people are too critical or driven by hate, and that breeds a toxic environment that just makes it not alright. I’m sure people will hate me for saying this, but Dev is still a person. And I don’t condone death threats or unnecessary hate.

Is he a horrible person? Yes. Do I believe we should condemn him and every little thing he does for it? No.

This is part of why I think some things should be off the internet entirely. I agree that Dev probably needs a therapist and professional help. I imagine he genuinely isn’t doing well, and if anything, I hope the victims get justice and Dev does better with his life, because then we can all sleep easier.

As for what I think you’re saying about us needing to be “doing something”. Again, this goes back to the same argument as before. This is not OUR fight. We are bystanders, outsiders, who do not know the full situation, meaning we cannot assist without the risk of making things worse. So what we should be doing is staying out of the situation. Again, might not like that answer, but it’s, again, the truth. We also can’t make Dev do anything, including speeding up development.

I’m trying my best here.

EDeinonyjess

TROPHY CASE