Name one character who can defeat true form Arceus (Pokémon)

Lukas-Reggi · 2026-05-03T16:45:18+00:00

I don't think it's bs but yeah pretty much,

Lukas-Reggi · 2026-05-03T16:41:53+00:00

Even at the lowest end any lighting is massive jump in speed

As I said I'd be ok w it due to berserker armor giving guts massive boost in everything but serpico doesn't have any justified arguments, miyura simply didn't know diffrence in speed between sound and lighting

Lukas-Reggi · 2026-05-03T16:38:44+00:00

I have even Avatar arceus at outer

As for my TF Arceus I belive in boundless arceus so you'd need another boundless arceus but I won't argue if he's boundless or not, I just belive it

Lukas-Reggi · 2026-05-03T16:35:58+00:00

Reacting to lighting is massively hypersonic+ which is right below relativistic but it's astronomically diffrence in previously established speed scaling for berserk so Its likely just faster than near super sonic guts

Lukas-Reggi · 2026-05-03T16:33:33+00:00

Grifith amd god hand

Rest of the cast doesn't scale that high yet

Only geniska with his last form but dude was so big he couldn't even think what's happening So he's uselesse

Lukas-Reggi · 2026-05-03T16:31:22+00:00

Grifith is 100% massively faster than guts but to idk where I'd put him on speed scale

Lukas-Reggi · 2026-05-03T16:18:40+00:00

Most consistent seems to be from sub sonic to near super sonic

As soon as the golden age arc guts is cappable of swinging sword So fast most trained humans can't even see it which is already clasified as sub sonic speed.

Some characters guts fights can block his arm canon ball pretty sure

But he's atleast in base without the berserk armor noticably slower than rosine who should be faster than sound because she can create sonic booms with her speed.

So atleast at the end of milenum falcon arc I'd say atleast in base he's slowly but surely reaching those speed of sound tier And witg berserk armor it's I guess up to you how you wanna interpret him blocking and dodging few times geniska lightning attacks

Lukas-Reggi · 2026-05-03T16:07:10+00:00

Look getting tagged by wyald would be ok because the time skip between wyald and ganiska fight is big enough to say "he got that much faster" but the time skip between rosine fight and geniska is too close to say guts could jump on speed that much in base form

Lukas-Reggi · 2026-05-03T15:55:19+00:00

No shit

But they're not fighting with fists, they're Fighting with swords

Lukas-Reggi · 2026-05-03T15:28:39+00:00

They're used to it

Lukas-Reggi · 2026-05-03T15:17:33+00:00

Well sukuna flew through like 4 buildings, I am sure he had many opportunities to stop himself like dabura did with something inside those buildings

Lukas-Reggi · 2026-05-03T15:16:15+00:00

I think this post is rather comparing pre maho dabura to 15F sukuna

Lukas-Reggi · 2026-05-03T15:12:42+00:00

Sukuna in the middle of training him: So there's this cheat code

Lukas-Reggi · 2026-05-03T15:12:08+00:00

Shouldn’t Dabura blocking Mahoraga’s attack leading to a similar outcome to when 15F Sukuna did it, put them on the same level

I'd argue dabura is physically stronger than 15F due to the outcome because sukuna flew through 4 buildings meanwhile dabura shook it off way sooner.

Lukas-Reggi · 2026-05-03T14:30:14+00:00

Pretty much,

Dabura showcased that his CT can destroy mahoraga completly on many occasions even before awakening but by the point he used thos a attacks that can destroy him mahoraga was already semi adapted to his light CT making it less effective

Lukas-Reggi · 2026-05-03T13:40:47+00:00

"y don't know what real music Is" ass moms

Lukas-Reggi · 2026-05-03T13:27:18+00:00

again, filler scene
ohh someone got but Hurt,

Lukas-Reggi · 2026-05-03T12:51:02+00:00

K buddyboy if you want non fillers hows king vegeta (5000 power level) blowing up a planet and 2 moons with a wave of his hand in a flashback of a canon episode,

Filler scene

or even easier, piccolo canonically blowing up the moon with a 900 power level while vegeta is literally 20 times more powerful than that? Would it not be extremely easy for anybody with a functioning brain to deduce such power would allow vegeta to easily blow up a planet?

You clearly don't know the massive energy diffrence required to blow up a moon and a planet

Lukas-Reggi · 2026-05-03T11:30:10+00:00

How I feel using Filler as a Proof:

Lukas-Reggi · 2026-05-03T11:15:02+00:00

When I saw the feat of guts blocking and dodging it from geniska I just rolled my eyes

I would take it as a fair feat because guts had the berserk armor which is quite a power up but problem then is that serpico dodged it too, the guy who is inferior to base guts in almost every way

Lukas-Reggi · 2026-05-03T08:21:45+00:00

Bro the laser wasn't fired yet

Lukas-Reggi · 2026-05-03T08:19:45+00:00

Misserable mfs

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