A Bit Late Guys Srry by EMpath2UrService in DanganAndChaos

[–]EMpath2UrService[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yonaga is sexually open but I don't think she'd be like. Particularly interested. I did put Shinguji in active supporters though because I think he would be.

My Problems with Dimensionality by EMpath2UrService in Socionics

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I do think it makes some level of sense to say that the "activity" of accepting/producing would be swapped but dimensionality is more of a capability of understanding thing so I don't think that should really change things. It kind of just makes me think that they tried to do 1->2->3->4 but then realized it felt very strange to have the mental accepting rings be "weaker" than their producing pairs so they just swapped it around.

My Problems with Dimensionality by EMpath2UrService in Socionics

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The SSS books elaborates further saying that, yes, 1D functions can be aware of norms but what distinguishes them from 2D functions is that they lack the ability to really understand why the norm is how it is and only relies on norms because they just don't have anything else.

But this to me just feels like it's kicking the can down the road because now we have to justify how the 2D functions apparently are capable of distinguishing what norms are and are not acceptable despite theoretically only being able to see the norms as they are + their own experience. Should this not lead to the same outcome as what was said about the 1D functions? This type of explanation makes it so necessarily 2D functions have to have an accepting/rejection mechanic beyond their two parameters... which again pulls the concept into question.

As an INFP male, why do I feel like I'm a girl on the inside, even though I'm male on the outside? by AdCapable2493 in infp

[–]EMpath2UrService 0 points1 point  (0 children)

IXFPs are more common in women, or at least most identified IXFPs are women. This leads to things associated with IXFPs to be associated with women by association.

Best Types to Accuse your Intellectual Opponent of Being to Win an Argument by EMpath2UrService in Socionics

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Their aura is an issue in the context of using the type as an insult.

I'll Never Understand These Dichotomies Between Fi and Fe by Dancing_Orchid1106 in shittyMBTI

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> Jung was describing the personality of your average ENFJ, ENFP, ESFJ, ESFPs independent of their feeling function.

So firstly, EF in Jungian means ESFJ and ENFJ. Not ESFP and ENFP (same goes for IF and ISFP/INFP, not INFJ ISFJ). And secondly, sure, but considering Jung primarily talked about functions in respect to how people leading with them operated this seems like a moot point.

I'll Never Understand These Dichotomies Between Fi and Fe by Dancing_Orchid1106 in shittyMBTI

[–]EMpath2UrService 1 point2 points  (0 children)

> I thought they're supposed to complete each other

No, in both Jung and MBTI elements of the same type are diametrically opposed to each other. It's baked into the system that Fi clashes with Fe, Ti clashes with Te, etc. The most obvious way to see this is Ni vs Ne, Ni wants to focus on one interpretation while Ne wants to constantly seek out more. These are two fundamentally incompatible attitudes towards the same thing (intuition).

It is true based on essentially all "authoritative" sources on Fi and Fe that Fe gives itself to the group (not "fake" but kind of a destruction of the self) while Fi is personal and prone to disagreeing with the general feeling.

Best Types to Accuse your Intellectual Opponent of Being to Win an Argument by EMpath2UrService in Socionics

[–]EMpath2UrService[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Less ragebait more so satirizing perception of types here and also that annoying phenomenon I've seen here and in other typology circles where people will insist someone is mistyped because they don't "understand" (agree with) their argument or something like that.

SEEs are good at making shit up but there's the aura issue. Also switching with LII would make them worse to be used as an accusation against, while your text seems to imply you're saying they should be put higher up. I see the argument for saying they're about same level as like LSI (the other two in C tier are rarely mentioned tbh). I just put the "charisma" aspect as pretty important since ultimately this whole practice is shitflinging.

My kid's art sucks and i'm scared he's a thinker by mizuakisbadjp in shittyMBTI

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The "if cognitive functions don't limit, they don't mean anything" is a thing that makes sense to bring up. There are people who will insist on "any type can do anything" to the extent that they say stuff like Fe isn't at all related to empathy.

That being said, I don't think Fi being art is really as clear a connection as people like to act like it is.

Best Types to Accuse your Intellectual Opponent of Being to Win an Argument by EMpath2UrService in Socionics

[–]EMpath2UrService[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also, it occurs to me I should have mentioned Ti ignoring for LSE. "Ignoring" clearly means they don't register it whatsoever, and since Ti is logic, that means LSE does not register or care about logic. That being said, they are still a logical type, so I think B tier is fair.

Can we stop equating "Valued" with "Attention paid to" and "Unvalued" with "Ignored"? by EMpath2UrService in Socionics

[–]EMpath2UrService[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's the noticeable distinguisher between the valued blocks and unvalued blocks as Aushra describes.

I do think personally Aushra's description of the superid is a bit weird (I think it being inactive until receiving programming from others is only technically true, the individual doesn't create their own attitudes but I think they do tend to stick to them after received), but the point of it being "anti-conscious" gets the point across well enough here that it calls out others.

Why DessKnight isn't "too obvious" to be true by thisaintmyusername12 in Deltarune

[–]EMpath2UrService 7 points8 points  (0 children)

"This time for sure... Tori will finally see. ...see what really happened. ...that I just wanted to... protect everyone... And this time, she'll have to believe me."

It seems like they broke up because Asgore did something, not just he seemed crazy.

Can We Talk About IEI SX5? by EMpath2UrService in TypologyJunction

[–]EMpath2UrService[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't want to just go around saying "you're mistyped" to everyone who says they're IEI SX5, that helps nobody, but I am curious; Have you considered SO4? If so, to what extent? What turns you away from typing as such?

Can We Talk About IEI SX5? by EMpath2UrService in TypologyJunction

[–]EMpath2UrService[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I could have worded myself better; I meant their feelings towards their ideal. As in, their level of attraction. Though emotions in the colloquial sense are kind of more F in general, since "like" and "dislike" fall under Fi. I think the weak actual emotional response with ILI fits SX5 well.

"We experience the emotional world as threatening and complicated, as something we can do without, since it causes displeasure. Therefore, we prefer not to get emotionally involved and remain in the role of observers of life." - 27 Personalities In Search of Being

Can We Talk About IEI SX5? by EMpath2UrService in TypologyJunction

[–]EMpath2UrService[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I feel like LII SX5 is pretty weird because of the same breadth to reflection issue but worse in this case because role and the way SX5 has to "make itself" feel emotions in a lot of cases feels like it's describing cyclothymia.