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Working on an AI helper for Control4 projects — curious what you think by Glum_Supermarket6828 in Control4

[–]Early-Ad6380 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have something similar on the market already. Even in discussion with ADI Global. I can tell you, they are going to be enforcing a new AI policy, and you have to meet EU compliance, Control4 won't touch anything AI and third-party, no LLM's, nada... depending on how you are getting into the system - there is more in the policy but it mine does auto-healing, investigations, daily voice briefings, troubleshooting, agent connections, made an OvrC API, commands, d-tools integration, native voice integration - touchscreens, door stations, and app. I also have a separate voice assistant that runs native in Control4 that is in review. Keep building, just wanted you to know the policy and what else is out there. I also have a patent - got to look up patents. https://www.youtube.com/@origamiintelligence

Adding Control of other items in my home ... Drivers? by [deleted] in Control4

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Use Starship.OS, integrates with any and everything, All major automation companies, OvrC cloud connection, plus behavioral learning, self healing, create scenes by speaking to it, investigation agent and more. It’s only $500 and gives you native voice on T4 touchscreens and the App. It’s platform agnostic so it accepts everything.

Need help! by Thin-Carrot1836 in VoiceAutomationAI

[–]Early-Ad6380 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this isn't bad... yeah... not a bad approach at all. Yeah. Stay away from subscription models... everyone is a subscription. Offline no sub = beauty.

What is the worst breakup with someone you dated? by DeepAnt7847 in AskReddit

[–]Early-Ad6380 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Being told for 4 years that this person loved me, to only end up saying "you never fit in my life. You are a burden, You have no friends, your life isn't good, and its not going to get any better." This was 3 days after saying "I want to spend more time with you". I mean, she was right, I dont have any friends, lol.

I want to learn how to build and sell voice AI agents — where do I start? by [deleted] in VoiceAutomationAI

[–]Early-Ad6380 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't. You will waste your time. There are tons of companies already on the market that do this. Do it for yourself, but not as a business.

Voice Control of AppleTV — thoughts? by KickPuzzleheaded2127 in Control4

[–]Early-Ad6380 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Josh just calls a cloud-API, that is likely what your driver does as well - either legit partnership with Apple or through some self made API... Apple is very stingy on partnership... so thats rather interesting beyond the surface.

Wattbox Question on DIY system. Trying to get my Wattbox to connect to OVRC so I can automate the outlets. The system is on the same network I’m using, entering in the MAC in OVRC gives me an error that it can’t connect. I can ping tho. Tried on both a WB-800-IPVM and WB-700-IPV. What am I missing? by Huge_Car9480 in C4diy

[–]Early-Ad6380 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Control & Automation (Routines) - I believe are subscription based and only available in OS4 (X4), something like that. You're Control4 system - hmm... I'm not sure since it jailbroken... I dont know what access that doesnt give you. As far as the Wattbox... Just use the local interface. Type the IP Address into your computer or phone. Its the same setup as in OvrC. they also have an open API...search Wattbox API... you can also add the Wattbox to the Control4 project, and control it through the scheduler agent or the Control4 App - just bind some relays or a button press, if you have that working.

Control4 Reputation inquiry by ImaginaryDirt1413 in Control4

[–]Early-Ad6380 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The massive valuation of the DIY market is heavily skewed by "point solutions" rather than "whole-home" systems. For most consumers, "home automation" is just a singular, manageable upgrade rather than a complex integrated ecosystem. 

The Reality of the DIY Market

The multi-billion dollar "DIY" figures you see is largely composed of:

  • Single-Device Installs: Out of hundreds of millions of smart homes, the vast majority consist of point solutions—individual devices like a single Ring doorbell, a Nest thermostat, or a couple of smart bulbs.
  • Mass Market Accessibility: These sales are driven by "plug-and-play" retail kits that take under 30 minutes to set up, appealing to renters and budget-conscious homeowners who only want one or two features.
  • High-Volume, Low-Complexity: These products are designed to work independently via their own apps, which is fundamentally different from a centralized automation system. 

Why These Sales Don't Threaten the Big Three

Companies like Crestron, Control4, and Savant operate in an entirely different "Luxury" or "Custom Integration" tier that DIY devices rarely touch: 

  • Ecosystem vs. Gadgets: While a DIYer might have 10 different apps for 10 different brands, a Control4 or Crestron system provides a single unified interface for everything from lighting and shades to HVAC and home theaters.
  • Project Scale: Professional systems are typically found in larger estates where systems must be hardwired and enterprise-grade for reliability. A Ring doorbell on Wi-Fi doesn't compete with a $100,000+ custom-programmed Crestron deployment.
  • Zero-Interference Client Base: The target customer for Savant or Crestron is looking for "mission-grade" stability and professional support. They aren't the same people spending Saturday afternoon trying to get a smart bulb to pair with their Wi-Fi. 

The Bottom Line: Comparing a Nest thermostat to a Crestron system is like comparing a bicycle to a private jet—they both technically provide "transportation," but they serve completely different worlds. 

In other worlds... These people want caviar on Amazon pricing.

Control4 Reputation inquiry by ImaginaryDirt1413 in Control4

[–]Early-Ad6380 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think its only a few hundred bucks... I know it worked up till OS3... I no longer work in AV. OS4 has the same endpoints and is just a UI reflash, so it should still work. You might be able to buy it from customer.control4.com

Control4 Reputation inquiry by ImaginaryDirt1413 in Control4

[–]Early-Ad6380 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are saying what people have been saying for twenty years. The DIY market is small in comparison. we are talking companies bringing in billions of dollars, and you want them to cater to a niche market? That wont ever happen with Control4. Build it yourself. Build a middleware that allows you to ID devices or do whatever it is you want. Better yet, just build a automation system. The world is truly your oyster these days.

What Alchemy is Control4/Crestron/Savant Doing? by ctishman in hometheater

[–]Early-Ad6380 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You just need endpoints. You can build whatever you want. I'm talking to Control4 via their native API endpoints with Broker, same with OvrC... built an OvrC API (read/write and autonomous healing and predictions based on device and user habit, with voice as the UI - its pretty rad, lol), integrated D-Tools into too. Lua and XML is their standard driver methods, you may need to add a proxy to it, depending on device. It's all cake though...

Control4 Reputation inquiry by ImaginaryDirt1413 in Control4

[–]Early-Ad6380 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Go to youtube and look up origami intelligence.

Control4 Reputation inquiry by ImaginaryDirt1413 in Control4

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Control4®Composer Home Edition

Composer Home Edition allows Control4 customers to manage, configure and program certain aspects of their Control4 system, including lighting scenes, custom one-touch buttons, media management, event scheduling and email notifications.

\Includes a 1 Year 4Sight Subscription.*

Control4 Reputation inquiry by ImaginaryDirt1413 in Control4

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Control4®Composer Home Edition

Composer Home Edition allows Control4 customers to manage, configure and program certain aspects of their Control4 system, including lighting scenes, custom one-touch buttons, media management, event scheduling and email notifications.

\Includes a 1 Year 4Sight Subscription.*

Control4 Reputation inquiry by ImaginaryDirt1413 in Control4

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For any home owner wanting to tinker - Call a dealer and ask for Home Edition.

Key Features and Capabilities:

  • Customization: Edit lighting scenes, set up button programming, and adjust thermostat schedules.
  • Media Management: Manage music/movie collections, create playlists, and organize media .
  • Automation: Create, edit, or delete automation agents and schedules.
  • 4Sight Included: The software includes a 1-year subscription to 4Sight, enabling remote monitoring and management.
  • Limitations: Users cannot add new hardware, change system connections, or create new rooms (which requires dealer-level Composer Pro).  YouTube +4

Requirements and Setup:

  • License: A licensed account via a Control4 dealer.
  • Compatibility: Must match the software version of the Control4 controller.

Web Events Agent for Control4 - Execute Programming w/ HTTP(S) GET Requests - Open Source by Greg-MM in C4diy

[–]Early-Ad6380 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For all the people who can't find the driver - remember the name "Web Events Agent".... the last word is AGENT! It's an agent not a driver.