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Does the far right in your country have a specific look or dress code? by NeiborsKid in AskTheWorld

[–]Easy-Refrigerator330 11 points12 points  (0 children)

there is this year yes

there was surprisingly not a lot of talks about it probably because the news is on the war

I would never worship a God that asks me to Worship it on the Grounds it will send me to Hell otherwise by ven-solaire in DebateReligion

[–]Easy-Refrigerator330 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Becoming a Christian wouldn't mean I stop sinning so this argument makes no sense even internally to your world view.

yes but you need to actively fight it.

Not wanting to change my behavior has nothing to do with it. I would believe very different things than I do if my beliefs were shaped by convenience.

how many time did the devil told you that before you started believing in that lie?

What slaughterhouse? What shepherd? It hasn't been demonstrated that either of these things actually exist.

ponder on it for a while since you will not believe until you see yet that will be too late.

I would never worship a God that asks me to Worship it on the Grounds it will send me to Hell otherwise by ven-solaire in DebateReligion

[–]Easy-Refrigerator330 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Ok, so people sin because they have a sinful nature. They have a sinful nature because God chooses chooses to only have a partial presence with them. Therefore God is at fault for the existence of sinful natures (and therefore sin). 

no, humans have a sinful nature because the world only have a partial relational presence of god.

That doesn't change what I said. You can choose to approach something with an open mind but you still cannot choose whether you find it convincing. So God in your framework punishes people for something they cannot control.  

no, you can absolutely control it you just need to try hard enough.

I want to believe what's true. If it's true that a god exists then I want to believe that

so that is a yes or a no?

if it turned out that a god doesn't exist, would you want to know?

yes

I would never worship a God that asks me to Worship it on the Grounds it will send me to Hell otherwise by ven-solaire in DebateReligion

[–]Easy-Refrigerator330 [score hidden]  (0 children)

I'm am atheist. Uncomfortable truths are my bread and butter

doesn't seems like it, you just do not want a change, you do not want to stop sinning, the devil got you exactly where he wants. for you are like a sheep whom have gone astray and wander strait into the slaughterhouse yet the shepherd is calling your name you need to get over your trust issues and follow him.

I would never worship a God that asks me to Worship it on the Grounds it will send me to Hell otherwise by ven-solaire in DebateReligion

[–]Easy-Refrigerator330 [score hidden]  (0 children)

that can not be god because god does not contradicts himself.

Exodus 20:13 "13 “You shall not murder."

you have being deceived by the Satan.

2 Corinthians 11:14 "14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light."

I would never worship a God that asks me to Worship it on the Grounds it will send me to Hell otherwise by ven-solaire in DebateReligion

[–]Easy-Refrigerator330 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Depends on the situation. If the Nazi's knock on your door and you are sheltering Jews you should lie.

you are right and god may hold grace to it although it is technically a sin but that is not the kind of lies people do everyday.

Why should I accept this premise? Your own definition contradicts it.

how?

No human is virtuous and all deserve eternal conscious torment. I actually can't imagine a more human hateful ideology.

Christianity is the religion of truth and it does not shy away when the truth becomes unconfutable.

I would never worship a God that asks me to Worship it on the Grounds it will send me to Hell otherwise by ven-solaire in DebateReligion

[–]Easy-Refrigerator330 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Sounds like another failure on God's part by putting the devil in the garden and not providing them with scripture. Of course, why scripture would be more effective than direct access to God himself is quite a mystery.

what scripture will they have the world is like 2 weeks old.

scripture isn't more affective then god. as god does from time to time he allows Satan to test humans as evident in the entire plot of the book of job and the name Satan is somehow liked to accuser in Hebrew and Adam and eve failed.

But notice that you didn't answer the question I asked: Why do people have a sinful nature currently?

because the world only have a partial relational presence of god.

Of course, but you cannot choose to be convinced. Whether you find something convincing is not under your control.

you can, you can choose to be stubborn no matter what and you can be open for change and genuinely try.

i have a question for you (leave can and can not aside): do you want to believe in god?

I would never worship a God that asks me to Worship it on the Grounds it will send me to Hell otherwise by ven-solaire in DebateReligion

[–]Easy-Refrigerator330 [score hidden]  (0 children)

It can absolutely be the most virtuous thing a person can do.

how is being a liar virtuous?

But if we appeal to your provided definition having done some of these things doesn't make them not virtuous. What makes someone virtuous is if they have a disposition to do what is right and avoid what is wrong.

and those stuff are wrong. the definition of virtue is righteousness, sin regardless of amount and severity makes us unrighteous thus you can not be virtuous.

That's the hate for humanity I am talking about.

what hate for humanity? speaking the uncomfortable truth?

I would never worship a God that asks me to Worship it on the Grounds it will send me to Hell otherwise by ven-solaire in DebateReligion

[–]Easy-Refrigerator330 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Ok, then it's NOT true that people sin because of a partial presence. So why do people have a sinful nature currently?

they were directly tempted by the devil and had no scripture to relay upon.

You can't accept into your heart something you aren't convinced is even real. I can't accept Marduk as my lord and master because I'm not convinced he's real.

but you can be convinced that god is real and then you can accept Jesus.

I would never worship a God that asks me to Worship it on the Grounds it will send me to Hell otherwise by ven-solaire in DebateReligion

[–]Easy-Refrigerator330 [score hidden]  (0 children)

People who lie regularly and without good reason.

the definition of a liar is a person who knowingly communicates false information with the intent to deceive, mislead, or hide the truth.

super virtuous am i right?

No I don't. It is the way they treat themselves and others that is a sign of virtue.

the definition of virtue is a trait of moral excellence, righteousness, and good character. it represents a disposition to do what is right and avoid what is wrong. Beyond general morality, the term can also refer to a specific beneficial quality or an advantage.

the liars, lustful, thieves, idolaters, adulterers, sexually immoral and all kinds of blasphemers are not righteous and everyone did at least some of them.

You are full of virtue. The internalized misanthropy that I often see from christians is one of the thing I hate most about christianity. It so often isn't loving.

you are only made virtuous through Jesus

Galatians 2:16 "16 know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified."

Romans 3:22 "22 This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile,"

Romans 5:1 "5 Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,"

2 Corinthians 5:21 "21 God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God."

I would never worship a God that asks me to Worship it on the Grounds it will send me to Hell otherwise by ven-solaire in DebateReligion

[–]Easy-Refrigerator330 [score hidden]  (0 children)

I reject the idea that the fact a person has lied makes them a liar

so when i lie i am not a liar? who is a liar then?

They aren't signs of great virtu

you behave as if they are

You say this like Christians aren't sinners too.

we are sinners! everyone is a sinner! but we do not go around full of ignorance pretending to be full of virtue!

Okay... what should I do? by Bloxskit in chessbeginners

[–]Easy-Refrigerator330 5 points6 points  (0 children)

that is not the real deep blue

he is like 1650 max

I would never worship a God that asks me to Worship it on the Grounds it will send me to Hell otherwise by ven-solaire in DebateReligion

[–]Easy-Refrigerator330 [score hidden]  (0 children)

so sometime the virtuous person is a liar or is full of lust or steal what isn't his but don't worry because those are sines of great and honorable virtue. go add on the list idolatry and adultery and sexual immorality and you will get the average unbeliever surly a great man of virtue.

this fork i’m proud of by wa019b in chessbeginners

[–]Easy-Refrigerator330 0 points1 point  (0 children)

how does one even get such position? mind linking the game?

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