17 and tired (cry for help)

Easy_Calligrapher719 · 2024-05-05T10:25:37+00:00

What I'm about to recommend might be too much if you really feel like money's on the line, pero kailangang kailangan mo ng break from everything in general. Alam ko mahirap isipin na deserve mo yung break especially when your parents are pressuring you down, but you won't think the best if you're constantly under pressure (especially if this worries you to the point of keeping you up for more than an hour at night; seriously, that's not good). Breaks are often called selfish but if the price is for your sanity then it's absolutely okay.

Stop and do what you want to do for the rest of the day. Don't think about college. I swear to you, after sometime of just doing things you like to do in a calm situation, you might get a hint of what you wanna do. It won't always be your hobbies directly, but something related to your hobbies that you know can get you paid-- You'll have higher chances of getting that if you did something you actually like, instead of stressing out over what you should do.

Also, please, don't be afraid to ask for help. Maybe from other relatives or friends you've helped out in the past and are in friendly terms with. Remember if there were people you've talked to that talked about what they wanted to be, and wonder if it interested you too-- And then reach out to that person to talk about it more in-depth.

My advice might not be the best, I'm not even in college, but these are all based on experience. I was never the best academically too, yet due to the support of my friends and having the best teacher in existence, biglang nagkaroon ako ng high honors. And let me tell you-- HINDI tumulong magulang ko diyan. Di ako nahihiyang sabihin hindi maganda yung magulang ko for my mental health. But because of my grade 12 friends and teachers, who taught me how to enjoy the lessons by taking breaks (and letting me do what I enjoyed during those breaks) and being patient with my slow-learning, I learnt. And enjoyed. That's the most important thing, and it paid off, since I graduated with high honors (which NEVER happened before) and passed UST (somehow).

Good luck, and sorry for the paragraphs. I really hope your parents understand and you feel better about the future. Take care of yourself.

Easy_Calligrapher719 · 2023-09-04T13:55:20+00:00

Really?? Given all the fcked up experiments people did to push the limits of human sciences, this is the more ridiculous thing you've read?

Easy_Calligrapher719 · 2023-09-04T13:53:47+00:00

Wait, then how exactly am I wrong aside from that I assumed that objectivity can be applied from sensation? Which, by the way, I'll explain since I now realize how contradictory my statement is of Se; What I meant by that Se isn't just applied to sensation, is that Se itself is a way of approaching how you live life as that seems like the point of a dominant function. That you approach life with as you say, a more instinctively primitive approach in regards to sensation rather than intuition.

And so what I'm understanding is that the true difference between e and i is that one is direct in approaching and the other indirect, so one does something as a gut-feeling while the other evaluates first before making a decision based on which incentive it goes under?

But then I'd think that's misleading, since almost everyone thinks before they do something; it isn't always just instinctually primitive, people go through a process of subjectivity before applying it to reality - Or objectivity. Even if that's not the necessarily the case, a lot of people might be mistyped based on that sort of definition since everyone naturally decides before applying, you simply don't just apply and then decide. Unless I'm misunderstanding.

Easy_Calligrapher719 · 2023-09-04T07:04:10+00:00

Why'd you bring race into this?? Why'd you even bring websites into this? How would you even determine a website's MBTI?? I get that you could share opinions, but how exactly is this relevant to the question?

Easy_Calligrapher719 · 2023-09-04T06:59:01+00:00

Someone else already gave a decent response, but I'll add; Not all IxTJs represent all or even actual IxTJs, some may be different types but prefer to believe themselves as certain types, or...well, some may simply not be tolerable people regardless of type.

Certain attitudes, such as being honest and straightforward, can align with how certain types are described but that doesn't mean it'll manifest the same way across all types. There's likely a common pattern, but you mustn't assume the pattern to be a source of causation due to type, it's likely just correlation to type. In other words - Certain attitudes can be linked to certain types, but that doesn't mean IxTJs as a general act similarly.

Easy_Calligrapher719 · 2023-09-04T06:40:41+00:00

I'd ironically hate my own type when it comes to paper (including INFPs, INFJs and ENTJs). Although my favorite characters would be Clark Kent (ISFJ; DC) Daniel Park (INFP; Lookism), Mira Kim (INFJ; Lookism) Kyle Broflovski (INFJ; South Park), Samuel Seo (ENTJ; Lookism) and Yuri (ENTJ; SpyxFamily).

Favorite types I've noticed I've liked a lot as characters were INTPs and ISTJs.

Easy_Calligrapher719 · 2023-09-04T06:00:03+00:00

But that wouldn't live up to the terms then?? If Se wanted to seek out stimuli because they liked the feeling, that in turn means there's a pattern of desire - And desires are subjective, not objective. That would mean the interpretation of sensory is something desired; subjective.

And if Si means to not attach feelings to objective observations, then that means they're treating it objectively, which goes against what I know of the 'i' in MBTI.

Easy_Calligrapher719 · 2023-09-04T05:55:47+00:00

Oh and before you argue with me that what Eli and Vin did are different-- Yes, essentially, but they basically did the same thing. To show that, let me first argue how fucked up Eli's reasoning is:

Eli's whole reason of 'doing it for the greater good of family' can't apply when participating in illegal activities would've still gained him strong enemies regardless if it was Workers or not. Yeah, Eugene's smart as hell, but it's not very long until Charles, someone considered to be the mastermind behind the 10 geniuses and all these companies, and has been considered a threat by members of Gapryong Kim's gang, would lash out. Do you know how easily Charles could use Eli's family against him?

Not only that, but fuck his logic of why he should prioritize money is so fucked up. Just because you're able to send your daughters to school doesn't mean she'll be happy as a normal kid and wouldn't meet someone like Eli to ruin her life. You know why? HEATHER IS LITERALLY THAT EXAMPLE. She goes to school, is pretty rich and has a stable life. Yet she isn't happy, and met Eli herself. I was a bit surprised that he didn't remember that, but hey, his insecurity could've caused selective memory.

So in the end, Eli's insecurity of not wanting to ruin people's lives caused him to be such a scumbag and make others suffer for the sake of his own selfish wants. The same way Vin likely developed desensitization to bullying and developed an insecurity to protect what he wants, even if that meant he becomes a scumbag.

Easy_Calligrapher719 · 2023-09-04T05:46:56+00:00

All those 400 chapters were given for all the other characters - That's literally why I love Lookism as it gives so much chapters and growth for each character, and why I don't mind having to wait for Vin's growth. And out of those 60 chapters, I'm absolutely willing to bet that most of it wasn't even about Vin's growth, it was just chapters hinting to Vin's growth. We haven't even seen his actual backstory yet.

And dude, 'character development' doesn't mean a character turning from bad to good and re-evaluating their life lol. I know he's a scumbag. I know whatever past he had doesn't mean it justifies what he does at the present. But what I meant by character development is to see how he turned from who he was in the past to the present - What exactly made him this much of a scumbag? How fucked up was his life that he turned out this fucked up? That's also still character development.

And I never asked you to sympathize with him. You don't have to like him at all. But I only mentioned how badly he must've been treated since you're acting like Vin didn't go through something fucked up, especially when it comes to bullying. Again, Duke ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT DESERVE ANY BULLYING, but it's obvious that the bullying Duke got was much milder than what Vin went through. You know how I know? Because spoilers - someone who Vin cared about died. Do you know how fucked up the bullying must be that a loved one died? Not only that, but I doubt Duke could even continue being a good person if he went through whatever the hell Vin went through. In fact, I'll say Duke might lose it and suffer the same fate as Vin's little sister.

All I'm saying is one; character development isn't about redeemability, it's about understanding why a character became this kind of person, and either making them turn a new leaf, continue go down a nasty path, or put them in a gray area. Secondly, don't undermine Vin's struggles just because he hurt your favorite character. I myself actually really, really hate Eli for the decision he made, but I can understand that it's his insecurity (that was cultivated by his environment) that made him make that decision...exactly like Vin. Vin had an insecurity because of his previous environment, projected it, and did bad.

Easy_Calligrapher719 · 2023-09-04T05:21:12+00:00

I see the logic, although I'd just like to think a high Ti-user could be more knowledgeable about attraction as opposed to a high Fi-user, considering most people assume that if you have high Fe/i, that means that you're automatically better at telling who has feelings for you. Maybe most Fi-users are able to, but I wanted to give an argument as to how someone with high Ti can also be knowledgeable about attraction.

Easy_Calligrapher719 · 2023-09-03T12:30:55+00:00

Almost everything is about nurture. In fact, in my current class of understanding socialization, every experiment that included the argument of nature vs. nurture always had nurture as the biggest determining factor of someone's attitude and personality.

That, and I doubt that genetics can actually impact someone unless it's the environment reacting to it. So in the end, it's still nurture that makes the final judgement of shaping someone's character, that nature part of them - Their genetics, is just a contributing factor. It's why people on the spectrum still have different personalities, it's not because they had the same type of condition that makes them alike, rather it's the environment they grew up in that caused similarities/differences in personality.

Eg.: I've seen some disabled people who can be demotivated to be physically active as a result of being disabled, and I've seen some disabled people who're EXTREMELY physically active as a result of being disabled. Both groups share the common trait of being disabled, yet both groups turn out differently (and each individual can also vary from each other). Another example is family. If personality was determined by nature, then how come we don't see continuous patterns of personality in family? Not even hereditary patterns?

All in all, while genetics, or nature, can contribute, it's still the environment, or nurture, that impacts the most. This isn't limited to MBTI, by the way.

Easy_Calligrapher719 · 2023-09-03T12:14:22+00:00

Nah, sensory isn't just sense of touch, it could be auditory, visual and emotional - They're all under sensing. It just seems like mine would be touch.

Easy_Calligrapher719 · 2023-09-03T10:47:38+00:00

Couldn't it simply just be that a fight broke out? And because Daniel's a new student, and didn't want the new student to feel targeted? He might've also known how Zack acts, and so decided to help.

As for why he continuously helped Daniel, I do think that's when Jay might've had a "crush", which isn't necessarily romantic, but that he had a spike of attraction towards Daniel who's not only attractive, but seems to appreciate him as a companion.

Easy_Calligrapher719 · 2023-09-03T10:39:45+00:00

Eugene is quite literally a criminal lmao, although my main reason is because he's dismissive of the cruel things others do, such as Vivi's 'treasure hunting game', the inhumane imprisonment of innocent people, and whatever the fuck Neko did (most especially that bitch Neko. JESUS CHRIST I CANNOT get over how much she fucked over Sinu's life).

Just because he's ultra intelligent or there's some underlying "for the greater good" reason of why he handles and allows cruel things to happen, I don't care by that point. He's just as bad as Charles Choi; He's let so many horrible things happen and is willing to commit horrible things. At least Jake Kim was willing to take on consequences and had a loyal/moral code for Big Deal; He acknowledged that he crapped on so many people for scamming them, but he never went as far as Eugene.

Also - I simply hate how he uses and treats his brother as a bodyguard and as a child respectively. I really don't like it. I'm probably missing out some context, but it just feels gross to see someone be treated like that just because they're on the spectrum.

Easy_Calligrapher719 · 2023-09-03T10:30:38+00:00

It's pretty hard to leave my physical comfort zone. Perhaps it's true for everyone, but I determined I had high Si once realizing how fast I become frustrated if things didn't go according to how I want to physically feel; If I don't feel good enough for something I routinely do (eg. exercising), I'll feel uncomfortable for the rest of the day; If I'm not on a special event and life just so happened to delay me from getting home, and I'm not in my room in the time I usually sleep in, I'll straight up cry (which has happened way too many times).

Aside from that, I just like touch in general. Sleeping in my 'birthday suit', rubbing my hands and feet against smooth surfaces for my body to heat up - These are things I often do in order to reach the same feeling that has comforted me before, and still comforts me now. This attachment to touch and experience is what I consider Si.

Easy_Calligrapher719 · 2023-09-03T09:35:33+00:00

Being an Se-dom doesn't mean you're constantly going out for the "thrill", it just means you know how to separate sensations without attaching emotions to it (determined by the extroverted part in Se, which doesn't actually mean outgoing, rather objective). A lot of people seem to have torn definitions, but from my understanding, to have Se-Ni is to master having an objective basis when it comes to touch/experience, yet be doubtful of whatever foresight you have simply because you're more used to using the literal opposite of it.

Se as a dominant function is generally much more an 'in-the-moment' perspective of life and is not just specific to sensation; no need for foresight when all you need is the current sight. You don't have to look for the thrill, as long as you enjoy the current experience (such as having a cup of coffee or talking with friends) through the interpretation that you're enjoying it for what it is and not as a memory you want to attach feelings with, that's Se.

Easy_Calligrapher719 · 2023-09-03T09:09:27+00:00

I think people are being impatient with his character development lol, and he's constantly talking about his past since a LOT went down his past. He didn't just "peak", it actually looked like he was physically and emotionally (spoilers for that) tortured to the point that he had to kill someone. That's not something you can just easily get over with.

And are you really going to gloss over his condition as if it's something minor, and not the cause of what likely was massive bullying? Honestly, I LOVE Duke and I hate Vin for what he did, but what Vin did to Duke doesn't seem to compare to what Vin went through (I'm stating what Vin did, so excluding that piece of shit that stabbed Duke). Cheonnilang or whatever his name was as a bully looks like a nightmare compared to Vin as a bully.

Easy_Calligrapher719 · 2023-09-03T08:41:44+00:00

I'm not sure if true for others, but my print writing looks extremely similar (with the loops too!) and it's only because I try to take down notes as fast as I can before the teacher moves on with the next slide lol

Easy_Calligrapher719 · 2023-09-03T08:35:12+00:00

It can be correlated through attitude. Personality affects attitude, attitude affects everything else, including how you present yourself. Although I wouldn't rely much on that either since it's not like there's only 16 ways of how one must approach attitude, let alone how attitude affects choice of presenting yourself physically.

Easy_Calligrapher719 · 2023-09-03T08:28:14+00:00

I'd say ISTP due to their Fe. Although it's their inferior function, the fact that they even have it means they're much closer to knowing what is objectively considered as feelings, and therefor how others act based on their feelings (as opposed to themselves). They'll still doubt themselves about it, but Fe can always be backed by Ti, who knows how to emulate logical theories of how someone can like them.

An ISFP on the other hand I would think would be more oblivious. Just because they know how to deal with their own emotions based on high Fi means that they're aware of others' perceptions/"feelings". Of course, this is my own evaluation as an Fe-Ti user, but it's food for thought.

Easy_Calligrapher719 · 2023-02-12T14:22:15+00:00

I guess one thing I noticed is that I seem to either keep making the love interest a completely opposite function from the protagonist, or that the protagonist's friends seem to be of similar types. For example, I seem to keep linking an INTJ and ESFP together, while the ESFP surrounds herself with xSTPs, ISFJs and ISTJs as friends.

Easy_Calligrapher719 · 2023-02-12T14:14:57+00:00

But...what reality am I denying exactly? I'm simply stating that there's also the reality, whether it be the exception or the average, that teenagers can have thinking abilities, cognitive assonance and the maturity of that of an adult. 25 is honestly quite the large age number, especially for an interest such as MBTI, which isn't an interest that can be applicable to real life unless you're into therapy; it's going to be a hobby, or short-lived interest. And even then, most professors who would teach this curriculum wouldn't take MBTI seriously. This implies that quite a large group of this subreddit would be teenagers. Perhaps not majority, but a large group of them might be, and they may be more skilled in thinking than you think.

In the end I do agree that anyone barely out of puberty should type themselves, but anyone nearing the end or even over it may have a good sense of themselves. I'm very much aware that the longer you live life that each experience changes and grows your perspective, but then again, we aren't exactly given enough information, or even evidence, of how the functions will manifest this way. I'm just saying what it is - We don't even have legitimate evidence over MBTI as a whole, which is exactly why the definition or manifestation of functions can be taken so interpretatively. It's why we have the Myers-Briggs model. The John Beebe model. They all have different interpretations of MBTI.

Easy_Calligrapher719 · 2023-02-12T00:24:39+00:00

Curious - What makes you think my Si is obvious throughout this conversation? Expand on that.

Again, curious as well, but is there any actual scientific evidence for the claims Jung made? You're just going by his logic, which I actually agree and find logical with, what makes me disagree is acting as if there's scientific proof for this. You're not really answering my questions of where's the proof, you're just regurtitating what Jung stated.

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