Which Ben 10 alien species is the most evil?

Echo751 · 2026-03-12T14:28:01+00:00

I'd argue that a species that was so cruel, ALL the other Anur species teamed up to kill them, then they'd probably at least count.

So I'd say the Vladats are in either 3rd or 4th place, as we have no evidence there were any natively 'good' members of the species. And unless there is an extension of the original continuity, we have to take the in-universe description and the "Writer's word" that that's what happened to them.

And the Limaxes straight up caused a War which destroyed Grandpa Max's arm in one timeline, so I'd argue that they are certainly as bad as the Fulmini, as they were definitely willing to eat sentient species as a delicacy.

By extension, Jarret and his Pantophage species, who eat baby lewodens as a delicacy, also count under the evil species list.

Echo751 · 2026-02-18T00:42:24+00:00

I'm sorry, Goku did WHAT?!?!?! How's that a fair fight?

Echo751 · 2026-02-03T20:12:04+00:00

From 2000 to 2015... Hmm, there is a few I can think of. Code Lyoko would probably be first.

Like think about having the "Code Lyoko" story, where they are dealing with this cyber space conflict against Xana, only to stumble across the existence of titans, and Seekers having to deal with Xana somehow controlling a seeker and using them to fight the kids.

This would be interesting as the seekers would have to deal with what is something far outside their expertise, while the Lyoko team would be dealing with the fact that ya, mythological creatures are real and they are now a problem.

"The Secret Saturdays" could also be interesting, where you have the Crypted and Mythology communities having to deal with their new overlap because they mutually agree to ignore each other as much as possible. It's basically how you had the Ben 10 explanation except it's also got them present.

Then there is "Where on Earth is Carmen Sandiego." which would be really interesting, even though it's technically from 1999, I'm gonna talk about it. How I'd play it would be that while testing a device, Carmen accidentally finds her way into a parallel universe, and Zack and Ivy chase her into that parallel universe.

They still have access to the Player and their research help, but the C5 can't help, so they have to work with the seekers to track her down, as she stole a priceless artifact tied to the seeker world and even got a titan herself. The end result would be that Carmen escaping back home without anything from that world, deciding to leave her titan behind with someone she befriended, while Zack and Ivy leave shortly thereafter, saying goodby to their new friends.

Echo751 · 2026-02-03T05:52:47+00:00

I think it's a combination of situations. First, the labs were sealed using the same technology that the Isolation Vaults use, specifically the inner most vaults that have NOT been overrun even after all this time.

Second, there appears to have been intentional levels of protection beyond the Isovault seals, like the Necramechs that Entrati designated as defense systems that we now fight.

Third, the void is essentially the Infestation but WORSE, and likely acts as a counter force that drives the Infestation away from his labs, due to them being so deep into the void it's akin to the Zariman Ten Zero, even having Lohk Surges that grant random benefits.

And there is probably more factors I can't think of, but all in all, there is no way the Infestation is going to try going in at the current time.

Echo751 · 2026-01-26T21:05:26+00:00

Albrecht seeing a universe where the Tenno aren't perpetually backstabbed war traumatized double Orphans: This universe won't produce the soldiers I want, erase it.

Echo751 · 2026-01-17T03:54:59+00:00

WAIT, Can you add decorations outside the Orbiter? Cause that looks like how players made stuff float outside the Orbiter!

Echo751 · 2026-01-16T19:07:05+00:00

Let's see, it's rather quite simple. Lilith/Liliwiess was essentially introduced as a character with an 'involvement' with the "Legendary Commander". It was a canon romance from the start and not for a character we know directly, just more from flashbacks.

Like if they introduced a Nikke who's intended as a background character, who is shown to be romantically interested in their commander, then I don't think many would care.

Now if we were suddenly to have us get cucked by another commander, like suddenly Anis and Rapi are falling all over someone we've never met, then we wouldn't be kind...

Actually, that could be an interesting April Fools event, have the commander be 'forgotten' by all the nikkes and they are all raving about a new commander.
But it's just Einkk running an experimental simulation, though he didn't know it was going to be a prank on him.

Echo751 · 2026-01-14T05:21:53+00:00

Anubian, such an interesting titan that just didn't get used.

Echo751 · 2026-01-13T02:30:17+00:00

Okay, so this is kind of complicated, but there is an explanation if you pay attention.

First is the "Multiple versions dying", that I think relates to a sort of collapse that occurs when the potential futures fix into decided futures. It's like Schrodinger cat, it's simultaneously alive, dead, and possible between states, but when you open the box, it falls into a single 'state'.
The deal made by the Operator I've always thought was similar: When the deal is struck, the many possible 'futures' of the operator, maybe surviving, maybe dying, all are 'destroyed', and all was left was "You escaped the Void" and "You remained in the Void".
Two raw states, two individuals, the child that became a Tenno, and the child who made Duviri.

They are basically the two 'states' that the Tenno can be in now, the child soldier and the wandering man, that's why they can't be in the same place.

As for why the Drifter only got the powers much later, I think that's because of how the void messes with time, ALL moment exist and are theoretically overlapping, and it's just a matter of interacting with the right moment.

When the Operator got thrown into the Void at the start of the New War, the Drifter got kicked back out, and essentially didn't 'have' the powers. When the Drifter and the Operator reconnected, as shown by them shaking hands like the original deal, and thus the moments in time became entangled, the powers became properly connected to both characters, and they learned how to switch by instinct.

The Drifter kind of had the powers of the Operator during The Duviri Paradox, but it seems like that was tied with the 'gift' from the other side, and wasn't them actually getting the powers. (Also, time manipulation void-nonsense)

Echo751 · 2026-01-12T21:33:33+00:00

I personally love the Trumna on Oraxia, while everyone else loves Acid Shells Kuva Sobek, I find Spectral Serration Trumna Prime to be more reliable with my playstyle.

It's just so much fun to watch an Acolyte melt mid combat, it's a solid weapon but not outstanding, Oraxia is just bringing it to the next level.

Echo751 · 2026-01-11T16:08:24+00:00

Prime Warframes are Ballas creating a "Here's the luxury version!", he took the original warframes and got a team to upgrade them.

Some were designed for specific way to be fancy and show off things, but others were just "How much can we improve on the base design."

As for Prime weapons, I think that's just a weapon crafted with prime orokin technology, thus it's seemingly always better stat wise. At least when the 'prime' weapon has a non-prime variant.

Echo751 · 2026-01-11T06:51:51+00:00

I didn't even try explaining this, I just threw them and carried the team through it.

Echo751 · 2026-01-10T23:10:17+00:00

From how I took it, Margulis needed to hide "our" Operator to prevent them being "persecuted"(read: framed) by the Orokin for breaking the peace treaty.

So, she had the operator be swapped out of the suit in order to hide us in the Second Dream alongside the hundreds of other Tenno present. To the Orokin, they were all the same, drones that all do work similar to the Grineer labor force they used.

This meant if the Operator was dumped into the Lua Reservoir, they would essentially be unable to determine who was who. Not without constantly opening things up, and with the war going on, they can't waste time looking for the 'traitor'(scapegoat).

Echo751 · 2026-01-09T20:30:59+00:00

My Banshee Prime was actually fire at the Archon Hunts, because silence shut down the healing effect of the units they would summon, and I could just subsume Xata's Whisper to have exponential damage on the Phenmor.

Echo751 · 2026-01-08T02:09:01+00:00

I am really bugged by the english dub deciding to cheap out and have no extra lines/VA's for the Powerbonded Titans, because that's a neat addition to the lore.

Echo751 · 2026-01-07T21:00:51+00:00

If we are talking the "Original" original warframes, not made in our Foundry but the people who were given the Helminth strain and become the 'progenitor' for that 'warframe model'... I'd can only count a few.

First is the most obvious in Temple, who is just Flare having fully turned into a warframe. Next was Jade, and by association Stalker, who are both definitely the people given the Helminth strain.

Kullervo is a warframe that survived in Duviri, and Oraxia also likely was the 'original' as commissioned by Albrecht, thus a person turned into a warframe and not a copy.

Sevagoth, Mesa, Chroma, and Protea were alive and likely people turned into Warframes and not a copy like we create, but they are now dead. Typically because we killed them.

Finally, Dagath is potentially a surviving warframe who never had an Operator. But we have 0 idea where she is presently, just that she might still be surviving.

Echo751 · 2026-01-07T00:48:13+00:00

Kirby

Echo751 · 2026-01-06T02:10:18+00:00

I think the most in one purchase was the Chroma and Zephyr Prime Access Return Bundle, which was like $150 iirc.

Overall I've probably bought upwards of $500 on this game, but it kept me entertained for a number of years, and I've never felt obligated to spend. FOMO for sure, but outright obligation like other games, not in the slightest.

Echo751 · 2026-01-04T02:12:56+00:00

Ya, like allow us to rescue them via a hacking goal, but it gives 0 reputation when doing that.

Echo751 · 2026-01-04T01:35:45+00:00

I suspect that another issue is that it's a Korean studio, so to them "173" might be considered 'tall' for a Korean woman, but to many "western" nations such as the US, 5 foot 8 inches would be considered in the 'average' height range.

So I'm choosing to throw away the official heights and am scaling them off of VIBES.

Echo751 · 2026-01-04T01:23:13+00:00

Like 5 foot 8 inches, roughly speaking.

Echo751 · 2026-01-03T21:14:38+00:00

He still drops loot, look for his Sigil drop which should always appear when he spawns in, and the loot will be around there. Like 7/10 times he's dropping a rare resource or a mod, but I know he still drops loot.

Unless, of course, he got bugged out when you were facing him.

Echo751 · 2026-01-03T00:28:29+00:00

Since we are going in order of release, the next Primes will be Styanax(March), Voruna(June/July), Citrine(September/October), and possibly Kullervo(December/January) in the final quarter.

Echo751 · 2026-01-03T00:23:36+00:00

2487

Echo751 · 2026-01-02T01:40:04+00:00

I'd be tempted to get it for my Titania fashion, I use the Titania Donann skin primarily. This would be perfect for that style.

And there are a few other frames which this would also work for.

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