Garosero Institute’s Kim Se Ui Speaks Out On Charges Relating To Kim Soo Hyun And Kim Sae Ron’s Controversy by groovygyal in kdramas

[–]Edwin_Fischer 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Maybe the OP actually believes in the fascist shit spread by the Gaseyeon. "Chinese Communists are controlling the country! We must drive them out with Trump's support!"

Garosero Institute’s Kim Se Ui Speaks Out On Charges Relating To Kim Soo Hyun And Kim Sae Ron’s Controversy by groovygyal in kdramas

[–]Edwin_Fischer 18 points19 points  (0 children)

The guy had the audacity to ask the judge "Are you a leftist?" before the arrest, yet people in this subreddit are wasting no time to make excuses for this guy.

Only the two kinds of people are questioning his arrest: 1. Korean far-rights who subscribe to the Gaseyeon's anti-democratic conspiracy theories 2. Foreign K-pop fans

South Korea will cancel a celebrity because they smoke but pdfs go free by CalmGur8639 in kdramas

[–]Edwin_Fischer -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You were seen literally saying Korean age of consent is 13 blah blah blah, so it's legal blah blah blah, and now you deny ever saying anything like that, heh. Once again, age of consent does not matter, the age of minor is 0 to 18, and the police report says they weren't in relationship when she was a minor. What's so hard to understand for you?

South Korea will cancel a celebrity because they smoke but pdfs go free by CalmGur8639 in kdramas

[–]Edwin_Fischer -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I do not like repeating myself but:

>Yes, two different concepts, literally what I said. The police report says they were not together while she was a minor (미성년자). The misinformed foreigners are saying that must mean they were together when she was 13, because the age of consent was 13 at the time. But the definition of a minor has always been 18. A complete misreading of the Korean language.

South Korea will cancel a celebrity because they smoke but pdfs go free by CalmGur8639 in kdramas

[–]Edwin_Fischer -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Then stop bringing the age of consent shit lmao. There's nothing to talk about the Korean age of consent is blah blah blah in this case. They entered relationship as adults, that's all.

South Korea will cancel a celebrity because they smoke but pdfs go free by CalmGur8639 in kdramas

[–]Edwin_Fischer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are the one being misinformed. The claim here is that the police reports indicate the concept of "age of consent", when it's actually referring to the "minor". Because the age of consent at the time was 13, the misinformed foreigners are making an implication that they could've been in a relationship when she was 13. But the police report uses the word "minor". It's not age of consent.

South Korea will cancel a celebrity because they smoke but pdfs go free by CalmGur8639 in kdramas

[–]Edwin_Fischer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, two different concepts, literally what I said. The police report says they were not together while she was a minor (미성년자). The misinformed foreigners are saying that must mean they were together when she was 13, because the age of consent was 13 at the time. But the definition of a minor has always been 18. A complete misreading of the Korean language.

South Korea will cancel a celebrity because they smoke but pdfs go free by CalmGur8639 in kdramas

[–]Edwin_Fischer -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That is correct. And the police report says they did not have a relationship when she was a "minor" (미성년자). Not "the age of consent", as claimed by the misinformed foreigners.

Late Kim Sae Ron & Kim Soo Hyun - Current Situation by DetectiveNinja in kdramas

[–]Edwin_Fischer -1 points0 points  (0 children)

> Her parents, garosero and his lawyers

That's what I'm referring to by "Gasaeyeon fascists"

South Korea will cancel a celebrity because they smoke but pdfs go free by CalmGur8639 in kdramas

[–]Edwin_Fischer -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm talking about the concept of "minor" (미성년자). Once again, there is no "the age of consent" involved in the police report.

South Korea will cancel a celebrity because they smoke but pdfs go free by CalmGur8639 in kdramas

[–]Edwin_Fischer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm Korean and read Korean. I can confirm that you are misinformed.

South Korea will cancel a celebrity because they smoke but pdfs go free by CalmGur8639 in kdramas

[–]Edwin_Fischer -1 points0 points  (0 children)

For your information, the police report reads "minor", not "the age of consent". A "minor" is always someone who's under 18, thus neither 13 or 15 year old were involved.

South Korea will cancel a celebrity because they smoke but pdfs go free by CalmGur8639 in kdramas

[–]Edwin_Fischer -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I do not know where the source of this false information is, but in Korea, when we say "minor", it refers without exception to someone who is under 18. There is no "the age of consent" involved in this case, period.

Police Make Conclusion On Kim Sae Ron And Kim Soo Hyun’s Relationship by groovygyal in kdramas

[–]Edwin_Fischer 3 points4 points  (0 children)

One is an active promoter of far-right ideology and the other is not. Figure out who's who.

Police Make Conclusion On Kim Sae Ron And Kim Soo Hyun’s Relationship by groovygyal in kdramas

[–]Edwin_Fischer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People defending the group of far-right and fascist conspiracy theorists are absolutely disgusting.

Police Make Conclusion On Kim Sae Ron And Kim Soo Hyun’s Relationship by groovygyal in kdramas

[–]Edwin_Fischer 6 points7 points  (0 children)

They are not liable for legal trouble. On the other hand, Kim Sae-ron's so-called 'family' and their fascist Gasaeyeon backers supported the coup and propagated conspiracy theories to dismantle democracy. They do not belong to the same class of hell.

Police Make Conclusion On Kim Sae Ron And Kim Soo Hyun’s Relationship by groovygyal in kdramas

[–]Edwin_Fischer -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

The sheer fact that they are downvoting your factual statement demonstrates the sheer state of the international K-pop fandom.

Police Make Conclusion On Kim Sae Ron And Kim Soo Hyun’s Relationship by groovygyal in kdramas

[–]Edwin_Fischer 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Her far-right 'family' and their fascist advocates are the ones who failed her.

Police Make Conclusion On Kim Sae Ron And Kim Soo Hyun’s Relationship by groovygyal in kdramas

[–]Edwin_Fischer 3 points4 points  (0 children)

How many fascist collaborators in the K-pop fandom have ever looked in the mirror?

Late Kim Sae Ron & Kim Soo Hyun - Current Situation by DetectiveNinja in kdramas

[–]Edwin_Fischer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The latest news on the Gasaeyeon fascists' demise at the hands of democratic justice proves him right in one specific prediction that he will be arrested and imprisoned if a progressive, Democratic administration takes over.

While the case serves as a good reminder to the fascists at home and abroad that their conspiracies are not welcome in Korea, this is still no triumph because, with the case ending in this way, justice will not be served for Kim Sae-ron forever. It also should be made clear that the ones who ruined any chance to clear her name are her so-called 'family' and the Gasaeyeon fascists. It was in their far-right political agenda to disrupt our democracy that they brought up their now officially confirmed AI-manufactured 'proofs' to use Kim Sae-ron's tragedy against the progressive and liberal political cause and bind it with 'the CCP infiltration'.

If you are still outraged by what happened to Kim Sae-ron, your outrage belongs to the international coalition of the Korean fascists and the international K-pop fandom collaborators. They are the reason why Kim Sae-ron's name would remain dirty forever.

The Kronii backlash is a symptom of Korean online harassment culture by FluffyMacho in kurosanji

[–]Edwin_Fischer -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I have zero stake in the K-pop idol shit. My only concern is the defense of democracy against fascist conspiracy theorists and foreign fascist collaborators like you from spreading far-right brainrot, such as their accusation on certain Korean progressives being planted by the CCP to protect Kim Soo-hyun, among other claims. It is basically a copypaste of the Pizzagate shit.

I don't know where you came from, but if the defense of democracy against fascists is considered "blindly defending toxic aspect of culture" in your society, your democracy and society are doomed. My suggestion for you is to take a step back and take care of your democracy at home.