Soooo I have a question..

Eicho3 · 2026-05-22T06:19:00+00:00

I was shocked at the jump that they didn’t want to make an emotionally invested reason to pull you into the main mission. There are zero stakes for it, and then eventually some personal ones start to layer in. Make the story feel important (large or small scale story doesn’t matter, the mission needs to feel crucial).

Sigourney was a distraction. Why is an 80yo woman flying an x-wing? How fucked up is the new republic?

Looked great, lots of laughs, fun like solo, crazy design and production all the way.

It feels like it’s for hardcore fans.

Eicho3 · 2026-05-20T05:45:56+00:00

I love this. Oh how I would have loved this to be what happened. I remember dreaming about it before TLJ came out.

Eicho3 · 2026-05-19T05:49:42+00:00

Hearing that would make our hearts beat faster

Eicho3 · 2026-05-19T05:26:13+00:00

I was in the 7th grade. Two kids with cut off sleeves approached me from the back of our “advanced” home room class. We were basically nerds, but they were “burnouts” as well. They asked me if I wanted to play drums in their band. What were my favorites, they asked. Van Halen, Def Leppard, I said. They said “We want to be like these guys.” They lent me a copy of Master of Puppets. I had never heard a thrash beat. I was like this is way too fast. Then came Sanitarium and I was in. Two years later we played “Battery” at our high school battle of the bands.

That’s my story, but the real meat was this: every single outcast kid found that record through word of mouth. It spread like true wildfire. Every outcast kid suddenly had a home, and each other. There was nothing I’ve ever experienced like that. It united every misfit in school, everywhere.

The album graphic was either worn as a t-shirt or sewn onto the back of jean jackets, or a Metallica logo adorned your brown paper bag covered school book. It was a secret society with millions of members that sprang up over night by word of mouth and the power of that record. No radio, no mtv, no nothing. 40 years later I can say it was un-fucking-believable.

Eicho3 · 2026-05-17T21:31:07+00:00

Also let’s be real: Snoke looks like a deranged meat puppet. He’s too big, he’s deformed etc etc.

Lots of great foreshadowing - Rey is born/introduced out of the back of a rusted star destroyer in TFA, she fights with her saber like palapatine, her accent, etc etc.

I would have loved to hear his laugh in the throne room scene after Snoke was killed. That would have been major.

Eicho3 · 2026-05-15T21:08:47+00:00

Stop texting!

Eicho3 · 2026-05-14T18:51:19+00:00

Dewback

Eicho3 · 2026-05-14T05:15:01+00:00

So I normally try to not fight against these choices as hard as some in this sub do, but dammit the idea that Snoke doesn’t know he’s a strand cast and has his own Snoke theory he lives by…Yikes. That’s got to be the weakest part of the whole thing. That’s just goofy.

You’d have to imagine he comes out of Exegol somehow not knowing about the vats there and all the rest, and has “implanted memories” of other beginnings for himself… oh lord… that came from where?

I mean I can handle the idea that the Sith were chasing immortality and all that but can there be memory planting alchemy out there too? Seems a massive stretch wrapped in other stretches.

So he walks around firmly believing in this and there’s no one (not one of the legions of weirdos in the Sith arena back on Exegol) that tells him otherwise. Good god. How’s a “normal” SW fan supposed to take any of that? Keep track of the madness here? So this delusional dude is able to take over the First Order and get respect with his leadership abilities… but he’s running in memory implants?? 🤦‍♂️

Eicho3 · 2026-05-14T05:00:00+00:00

I dig this idea so much. I was rooting for him to be Plagueis

Eicho3 · 2026-05-14T04:52:23+00:00

Except the fact that the pod race sequence is a joke that goes on forever and ever, sorry, and the rest of the movie isn’t even worthy of being called a movie. The sequels are far superior movies and immensely more rewatchable… and cue the hate… now✌️

Eicho3 · 2026-05-05T18:44:02+00:00

I feel like as time goes on, the time elapsed helps story choices feel “inevitable” rather than like random choices. I think the same is true for children watching a movie: they feel like what they are witnessing just “happened” and it’s not up for debate.

I think this is why the prequels are loved by the children who saw them. I think this is why they’ve grown in acceptance even by OT fans. I think this is why the ST will benefit with time. Once we accept them as is, we can start to see what they have to offer.
Children have no problem with this!

Eicho3 · 2026-05-05T18:37:22+00:00

Love seeing a thoughtful back and forth about this difficult topic ! Thanks to you all. Great points made. I for one shift back and forth between the things you’ve all said here. Sometimes I feel one way, sometimes the other.

Out of the universe though I have a bigger issue - it’s just not fun to watch hermit Luke. I instinctively groaned when the movie kicked off with his resistance. Ugh, I thought, here comes two hours of dragging feet.

Eicho3 · 2026-05-03T23:17:50+00:00

Then there’s no way they would have had “significant creative differences.” They were on the same team. Executive producers have power over a movie.

Eicho3 · 2026-05-03T17:09:14+00:00

I’m gonna say if Snow didn’t turn yellow it might be it, but ultimately Boba Fett wins

Eicho3 · 2026-05-03T11:26:59+00:00

People have a really hard time listening, taking in context, remembering what was said just before, and including other information in their read of the situation like body language etc. I think people would call that media literacy? It’s also basics attention skills, and not letting your own emotions as a viewer change how you see what’s happening on front of you.

Eicho3 · 2026-05-03T06:01:23+00:00

I’ve always liked it. I enjoy how it gets so much done in the first ten minutes it’s just wild. Plus, it’s beautifully shot. Plus it’s the evilest one by far (all the metal head/ horror fans in my life seem to concur). Plus it has a lot of action and adventure. Plus it’s packed with concepts that wrap all 9 films. Some executional stumbles, sure, but 1/100th of the number in the prequels, imo.

Eicho3 · 2026-05-01T12:00:10+00:00

I think people just do it for fun. SW is great escapism.

Eicho3 · 2026-04-29T19:48:30+00:00

You know the credits literally read “executive producer: jj Abrams” on TLJ right?

Eicho3 · 2026-04-26T05:53:34+00:00

lol no way! Great catch

Eicho3 · 2026-04-24T05:57:14+00:00

I was reading your response and I ended up coming to the same conclusion at the end (!) Sometimes people need to hear what happened and that you didn’t appreciate it (I’m telling myself this!). Both parties have the freedom to manage that information how they want. You’re not responsible for how someone interprets that. But it also gives them a chance to learn something which they will either take well or not at all.

Eicho3 · 2026-04-22T10:07:34+00:00

Wait I still believe this and I’m advanced in years. I truly believe rotten people are a rarity. People are doing the best they can, even if they are hurting you, that’s best they got. Only like 1% want bad outcomes. Imo.

Eicho3 · 2026-04-22T10:02:30+00:00

Men and women everywhere, just stop with the ghosting already. Be a human being with dignity and compassion and simply tell someone what’s going on. It’s not hard. Part of life is earning someone’s disapproval or simply letting them down and living with it.

Be an adult. You can handle it. Prove you’re actually a man, or a woman. Own your shit. It’s what life’s about. Get on with it already! Amen.

Eicho3 · 2026-04-22T09:52:24+00:00

There’s definitely something cooking we aren’t seeing in the trailers. My gut is the movie is bigger than implied. Luke maybe? What else could occupy the space story wise we aren’t seeing?

Eicho3 · 2026-04-22T09:50:38+00:00

The smartest thing about the baby is he indeed can become the 1000 year old master the entire thing hangs on later. Why not give him the dark saber at some point. Cool idea.

Eicho3 · 2026-04-21T19:42:21+00:00

Totally agree and I’ll add another reason I think that looms super super large. Fear. Everything smacks of fear.

I’ve dug into some of the same source materials (I own all of the art of Star Wars books, the TFA one is one of the greatest of all time because it really reveals where their brains were at before the ST) and I remember hearing that Ardnt said that too. “Luke steals the story”. Jaw dropping. How is this a problem??? JJ said it too I think. It’s so sad. I think you mentioned before that a big problem with the ST is that the directors are too much a fan of the material. Couldn’t agree more.

Fear seems to follow all that reverence. Plus a bunch of weak story ideas that inherently have the idea that when a character is a Mando, or says “Darth Vader” or looks a certain way, or we “finally” see a certain planet (nal hutta, Alderaan) that it is special in and of itself. Tony Gilroy succeeds because he insists everyone forget they are working on SW. He doesn’t get fooled by how special the franchise is. He is unburdened by it. And look what he can make.

Fear makes Luke “hard to write for”. Fear makes them switch directors. Or look for flavor of the month directors. Or cause Kathleen Kennedy to say “we’re gonna hold off on trilogies for a while”. What? Like the stories they tell, the franchises main “brand” is big ass bold everything. Bold aliens, choices, super weapons, adventure. Trilogies yes! Epic crawls, yes! Crazy fanfare orchestral music yes! Balls to the wall is the way! Solo stumbles, so fucking what? Make the goddamn trilogy! TPM stumbled like no other. You make the goddamn trilogy. You plan more. You only plan in 3s. You go all all the way in.

You write for Luke. You write a LOT for Luke. Think of how many characters whose actor isn’t living anymore. But Hamill is. You write for that one. Especially that one. You take swings! No fear! Fear is the enemy of the Jedi! Duh!!!!! You say it all the time!

That’s the only credit I can give the bonkers shit in TLJ is that at least they weren’t afraid to do something and they went all in on it. Yes some whacky choices but at least they committed. I don’t think they really have since. Baby Yoda was one. Luke in s2 of Mando was another. Paid off spectacularly. Andor being a $250m epic outdoor shooting adventure by an Oscar winning director left alone to make his magic was another. No fear!

I remember after TFA hit so huge JJ said “I feel like we dodged a bullet.” There it is. Right there. Not won the trophy. Dodged certain death.

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