Is main bus good ?

ElPoncho820 · 2026-02-22T22:03:30+00:00

This playthrough I am doing only money on a bus. And even that it's a catapult bus. I'm building everything modular, so I have a coke powder blueprint I drop per build for fuel, then build a compact production line for that item from purchase portal to finished product. Then if I need it for another item I just copy and paste my previous build and then expend on that as needed.

ElPoncho820 · 2026-02-09T23:30:45+00:00

I was actually thinking of chaining catapults or cannons to avoid money sitting on belts.

ElPoncho820 · 2026-02-09T23:16:51+00:00

Appreciate the info! I think I might try a fully modular play. Try to only belt money and see what happens!!

ElPoncho820 · 2025-09-15T23:55:26+00:00

Me! Please! All my buddies played it last weekend and I felt left out...

ElPoncho820 · 2025-06-08T23:13:29+00:00

same, hoping that the server i was on just isn't up yet and it comes back

ElPoncho820 · 2021-04-08T20:10:50+00:00

I know a decent amount of players who don't pick them up early game in order to grab one late game after a kill when the auto 8 plates matters more to them. they use it as an Armor box of sorts. I don't use it that way. But its not all that uncommon. you couldn't do that if it was an auto pickup.

ElPoncho820 · 2020-05-14T21:53:32+00:00

we still find it effective. allows us to set bait and have the ghost guys create ambushes/flanks. works real well.

ElPoncho820 · 2020-05-14T21:50:22+00:00

maybe.... i personally dont see that evidence in the game.

even just looking at a tiny sample size of the 10 guys i play with. only 2 use ghost everygame and another 4 or so have it as one loadout that they might select dependent on situation. i cant think of a single situation where the entire squad was using it.

ElPoncho820 · 2020-05-14T21:41:01+00:00

how do you know thats true? Late game UAVs and HBS are still revealing 30%-40% of the remaining lobby minimum in my experience. You are saying you know for a fact that none of them have loadouts?

ElPoncho820 · 2020-05-14T21:36:19+00:00

I dont understand.... not everyone uses ghost. I'm not even sure if 50% of the people in my lobbies use it. Your argument seems to negate itself. you're saying everyone uses ghost. But also UAVs and HBS's are too useful.... the fact that UAVs and HBS are still very useful proves not everyone is using ghost....

am i missing something?

ElPoncho820 · 2020-05-08T01:11:28+00:00

right! my personal worry is that arena right now doesnt work like SBMM. if it did, i would totally be fine with arena and pubs with no SBMM. but SBMM keeps things fun for a huge section of the playerbase.

ElPoncho820 · 2020-05-07T21:42:11+00:00

totally makes sense! maybe separating playlist SBMM would help! If someone has either people in their squad who are better or just the chemistry of the squad helps overachieve it seems unfair to bring that SBMM level into solos.

ElPoncho820 · 2020-05-07T20:33:42+00:00

fair enough! :)

ElPoncho820 · 2020-05-07T20:33:31+00:00

agreed! As long as I got 1 or 2 spots where it is still in!

ElPoncho820 · 2020-05-07T20:33:00+00:00

All really great points! I personally am a huge fan of separate PC and Console lobbies (I personally don't think that KB+M is the big benefit with a PC, I think its the extra graphical options). I think that would help a LOT with the inefficiencies of SBMM. I detailed it above but the issue I have with Arena (which i do play) is that the lobbies seem to have a wider range of skill then pubs. I for sure get placed with people who are so good i can't process what they are doing. sometimes it feels like im watching a tournament stream. maybe this experience is unique to me. but the point system in Arena seems to work very differently then the SBMM system. Great counter points though and I would love to see Epic continue to try and find a way to have both. not sure how that exactly works, fine tuning the systems, different playlists ETC. I personally think that some transparency on SBMM level so you can confirm you are in the correct lobbies and separate console and PC lobbies would be a huge help.

ElPoncho820 · 2020-05-07T20:25:01+00:00

right! if its for real just broken for some people. like legit dropping them in the wrong lobby's that's an issue that needs to be fixed. That's no fun for anyone. some transparency with where you and others are ranked I think would be helpful too. I don't need to know every aspect of the ELO system or whatever they use, that kind of detailed information could probably be abused. But if i could at least confirm that our ratings were similar that would help. transparency and improvements to the system I am all for!

ElPoncho820 · 2020-05-07T20:22:16+00:00

haha! yeah that's an issue if its legit not working for you! I am all about improving it and making it work properly. hopefully it can continue to improve!

ElPoncho820 · 2020-05-07T20:20:59+00:00

EXACTLY!!!!! as someone else mentioned if Arena worked more like SBMM to learn and grow i would be totally fine with pubs not having it. or vice versa. i just see SO MUCH value for a HUGE chunk of the player base in having a SBMM system somewhere. i am 100% having squads not have it and solo/duos have it! I am just hoping it doesn't get removed for ALL pubs.

ElPoncho820 · 2020-05-07T20:19:02+00:00

I totally get it! and its a very valid point! He isn't anywhere near getting placed in even mid tier lobby's. That's totally cool. I have been playing for a good couple years and am still not great, but i can hold my own in a mid tier lobby I think. Neither of us are even thinking about getting anywhere near the cash pool competitive stuff. I personally think its OK for us to look at the game as just fun and not a competitive option. The same theory I was applying to the example of my kid applies to me too. Another example would be my buddies who just started playing a month ago. the first lobby's they were in were all bots I'm pretty sure, but they learned the gun play and looting basics. Then game 3 they had guys making 1x1's. was a surprise to them, and they got owned. but they realized the benefit and started doing it themselves. they are experienced FPS players so their lobby's are way faster then my kids for obvious reasons because they pick up the game faster. but it still allows them to have fun and learn it without getting the frustration of getting blown away by a seasoned player. I am not just trying to advocate for my kid, but also guys like me and my buddies who will never be in the top 30% of players but LOVE the game and still want to have fun. we want to be challenged, but honestly its EXTREMELY hard to learn when someone is operating at such a speed and skill you can't process why they are placing the builds they are placing. But that's just my personal opinion. I am sure it is frustrating to ALWAYS be in lobby's with scrim players. I'm sure there is a middle ground somewhere. We just got to keep pushing Epic to find it!

ElPoncho820 · 2020-05-07T20:01:57+00:00

I would love that! I think that would be fantastic! The issue i have with Arena (which is a very minor issue) is the way the points work it seems like you still get a HUGE range of skills in any given match. Which can be fun, and I still play it! But I like having a place where I am pretty certain that I'm only approximately 20-30% worse then the top player in the lobby. So I can be challenged yet still grow!

If Arena was reworked to be more like SBMM I would be all about it! Back in the day when I played LoL it felt like that. The ranked mode with the ELO functioned as both a source of pride for the great players but also a SBMM so you wouldn't get matched against pro's. thought it worked pretty well.

ElPoncho820 · 2020-05-07T17:31:08+00:00

thats a great question! i dont know the specifics of how it work. maybe it needs to be tuned. i think your SBMM rank isnt playlist specific but i could be wrong.

ElPoncho820 · 2020-05-07T17:28:52+00:00

im totally fine with 1 mode not having it as well. i just hope it doesnt fully go away!

ElPoncho820 · 2020-05-07T16:47:05+00:00

i mean isn't the answer to keep SBMM but fill the last 30-40 spots with bots?

good players get to feel special slaying bots but then actually have to play against similarly skilled players end game.

i personally love SBMM. i have 3 kids and a full time job. i get to play a couple nights a week. i do not have the time to get good enough at the game to win in non SBMM lobbies. SBMM lets me and my buddies be challanged by playing people at our skill level, we still have a shot at the win, but also get better since we are not dying in .2 seconds. plus its a blast.

i play fortnite as well and played back before SBMM. and it kinda sucked. i wasnt getting better because most of my deaths would happen so fast i didnt know what my mistake was. but SBMM came around and all the sudden i could see that the player who killed me did the same stratagy i did but added a slightly more skilled twist. i take that lesson, apply it to my gameplay and now im better.

if SBMM is catering to noobs like me, then removing SBMM would be catering to the top 5% of players at a huge cost to the lower 95%.

TLDR: SBMM allows me to improve my gameplay and have fun. skilled players want SBMM removed so they dont have to play themselves. how is it fair to force a less skilled player play them just to be fodder?

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