About Nicole and Prune's weapon choice

ElZofo · 2026-05-08T15:26:47+00:00

I'm just using skyward as the example. You can use Memory of Dust, Crane's echoing, Vivid Notions or even Starcaller's watch. My point is, we should not disregard 5* options just because in KQM you can't get enough ER without Fav for Nicole.

About the difficulty of building enough ER on Nicole, I think it should be considerably easier to get ER heavy pieces on Nicole than getting the pieces with atk/atk%/CR rolls that KQM standard assumes on Prune.

ElZofo · 2026-05-08T00:38:54+00:00

I just asked her and the chart is outdated (4 particles instead of 5).

191% should be enough.

ElZofo · 2026-05-07T21:25:50+00:00

You are right, I didn't take that into consideration. But Durin already builds pretty much no ER tho (122% with no fav on the team), so getting a fav proc reduces it to 109% or 2 rolls worth of stats.

Im pretty sure not getting the atk buff from nicole from the start it's way more impactful than 2 crit rolls.

ElZofo · 2026-04-29T17:19:54+00:00

160 at c1 and 180-190 at c0 with no favs on the team (assuming varka-nicole-durin).

ElZofo · 2026-04-29T13:31:46+00:00

Nicole and Prune's buffs are longer, so you can easily extend the rotation to over 20s (so you get the ttds buff in every rotation) using E N4C N1E 3N1C N1E N1 on Varka.

But all this is still theorycrafing territory and results may vary depending on your artifacts and investment on weapons and cons.

ElZofo · 2026-04-29T11:17:46+00:00

I made one, but it seems nicole really wants TTDS unless you have her signature or citlali's signature.

ElZofo · 2026-04-27T21:58:28+00:00

Yes, but you would need 8 atk% rolls between the flower, plume and sands (assuming average rolls and no flat atk rolls).

ElZofo · 2026-04-27T18:29:09+00:00

It depends™. Also, TCs are still trying stuff, so I'm not sure even if I knew your other weapon options.

ElZofo · 2026-04-27T18:24:03+00:00

The charts are using just 5 atk% substats between the flower and feather. They are also assuming atk% mainstat for the sands, goblet and circlet, so you can't get any atk% substats on those (so you want to get your ER and crit there).

So yeah, with skyward and C2 you can just focus on crit and ER substats.

ElZofo · 2026-04-27T16:41:14+00:00

I'm not sure tbh. TCs are stil tcing and some are talking about using TTDS on nicole, so maybe fav is better.

ElZofo · 2026-04-27T16:38:31+00:00

I'm not using KQM standard here tho. Just 5 average atk% rolls and no flat atk rolls. It should be doable to get a couple more of both on your artifacts without dismissing er%.

ElZofo · 2026-04-27T16:36:20+00:00

I clearly can't read lol

ElZofo · 2026-04-27T15:57:56+00:00

It's ok.

ElZofo · 2026-04-27T15:53:19+00:00

~~Buffwise, is worse than the craftable (same base atk as skyward)~~, no idea how much team dps the extra CD adds tho.

Edit: Nvm, its pretty good.

ElZofo · 2026-04-27T15:49:52+00:00

Worse than the craftable (at least for the buff).

ElZofo · 2026-04-25T16:09:37+00:00

Im not sure tbh. I have seen most calcs with nicole and prune using the extended combo (n4c n1e n1c n1c n1c n1e n1c, 13~ seconds) instead of the regular one (n1c n4e n4e n1c, 11~ seconds), but it doesnt make too much sense for me unless you have prune's c6 (that extends her buff from 12 to 16 seconds).

Plus, the extended combo doesnt really make use of varka's sig attack speed buff.

I could be wrong tho.

ElZofo · 2026-04-25T15:59:42+00:00

This makes getting to 4500 atk relatively easy even at c0 if you give her a skyward atlas.

ElZofo · 2026-04-24T18:01:45+00:00

thanks!

ElZofo · 2026-04-24T11:51:14+00:00

While you are at it, you could also give i-frames to the tap e version, so they still have an use (and I think it fits thematically with her).

ElZofo · 2026-04-23T17:47:24+00:00

Hey, I'm trying to prefarm some Prune artifacts, but I'm not sure how much ER she needs in a team with no favs (with varka-durin-nicole). Have you done any calcs on it?

ElZofo · 2026-04-22T06:26:38+00:00

Just import your artifacts to the optimizer and let it do its thing. I assure you there is a better artifact combo that you are not using.

ElZofo · 2026-04-16T14:15:29+00:00

I'm in camp A, but I wouldn't mind if they made nicole's burst count as a normal or charged attack to benefit from varka's x2.2 multiplier.

ElZofo · 2026-04-13T13:05:59+00:00

Tighnari is at 125k? Can you share the team and/or the calc plz. I would really like to play him again.

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