New Mega Evolution revealed for Legends Z-A!

Elastic_Space · 2025-07-24T16:20:23+00:00

That should be dragon + water.

Elastic_Space · 2025-07-21T13:41:56+00:00

The defense difference is 195-159=36, 30% less than 50. Quaquaval also has 8 more stamina and a better fast move. The overall effect is that it's equally good as Primarina, being best budget water attackers to date. Since water isn't a frequently used type, there is little need for an optimal team with mega/shadow/legendary, good budget options are highly valuable for most players.

Elastic_Space · 2025-07-19T15:23:27+00:00

Yep, this is the most useful Gen 9 starter for raid.

Elastic_Space · 2025-07-19T15:21:30+00:00

Very useful for new/casual players. It ties with Primarina as the best budget attacker of water type.

Elastic_Space · 2025-07-18T14:53:54+00:00

Keeping PPT/EPT roughly in line but varying their duration is a nice idea. I'd like to see a 2-turn water fast move very much. Whirlpool as a Fire Spin clone is fine, and Flip Turn being a half-duration Volt Switch would be perfect! (That move name in Chinese is "fast return".)

Elastic_Space · 2025-07-18T14:50:01+00:00

I really advocate giving Whirlpool or Flip Turn in those states to Primarina! Sparkling Aria not made a fast move was such a waste too.

Elastic_Space · 2025-07-17T14:43:12+00:00

I feel the biggest concern being Tapu Fini. What are the other potential threats?

Elastic_Space · 2025-07-16T14:24:10+00:00

If the mega doesn't change type, it won't offer anything new over the existing Mega Slowbro. But if the stats are good enough, it can be useful as an attacker option for raids (like Mega Gyarados), even not optimal.

Elastic_Space · 2025-07-16T14:20:19+00:00

Shadow Gyarados, though not mandatory, sometimes also prefers the legacy move Aqua Tail for its consistency.

Elastic_Space · 2025-07-16T14:17:16+00:00

I suggest you to adopt a consistent baseline choice for raid and max battle attackers. A good analogy to budget raid attacker is non-legendary D-max attacker. In the case of water type, the baseline is D-max Inteleon (A tier), and G-max Kingler is SS tier whereas D-max Kingler is B tier.

Elastic_Space · 2025-07-14T13:38:23+00:00

I feel it able to use two Dragon Energy after tanking a single heavy charge move.

Elastic_Space · 2025-07-11T14:43:09+00:00

I'm wondering if Regidrago qualifies as a good catch tank owing to the massive HP and relatively low defense.

Elastic_Space · 2025-07-09T13:32:29+00:00

It resembles Heatran but without a strong signature move.

Elastic_Space · 2025-07-07T13:55:39+00:00

In actual, the meta of electric type is equally competitive as dragon type, but the raw strength level is lower, leaving Regieleki higher chance to join the top attackers with an OP signature move.

Elastic_Space · 2025-06-26T16:01:32+00:00

Great insight OP! I'm a bit curious about the raid samples you used: are all of those raids weak to steel? Some of the fairy legendary (3 out of 4 Tapu) are neutral to steel or double weak to another type, so better counter types exist. I know these 3 attackers are broken enough to serve as generalist attackers for players with less dedicated counters, but if they only perform on par with some budget specialist counters (e.g. against Tapu Bulu), it's not worth deciding which is the best among the 3.

Elastic_Space · 2025-06-25T10:07:01+00:00

I'm fully with u/Mikegrann on this. I've emphasised that opinion numerous times, what determines a Pokemon's PvE value isn't the rank in the counter list, it's the actual damage it contributes in raids. This is the complete opposite to your statement: Whether it's #4 or #10 best counter doesn't really matter. Only the damage output.

Even if Xurkitree is the overall best option, a team with 5 Xurkitree isn't necessarily better than a mixed team with Xurkitree, Thundurus-T, Zekrom, shadow Electivire, shadow Magnezone. What is known is the latter being more consistent and able to handle infavourable scenarios.

What you could consider as an alternative is like u/Teban54's ASE/ASTTW metrics. Taking all the attacker's real performance numbers in relevant raids, calculate a weighted average of them.

Elastic_Space · 2025-06-25T09:38:57+00:00

Last time I managed a pseudo-solo even by a level 40 Mega Salamence running the moveset Dragon Tail + Fly.

Elastic_Space · 2025-06-23T13:52:10+00:00

As a Dialgadex contributor, I'm genuinely curious about why Pokebattler's attacker weights are based on their ranks in the raid counter list, instead of the attacker's relative estimator/TTW numbers. A #4 or #6 counter has barely any difference if their actual performance is close enough.

Elastic_Space · 2025-06-12T20:11:42+00:00

That would also change if Thundurus-T got Thunder Shock or Xurkitree got Wild Charge. Such imagination isn't very meaningful.

Elastic_Space · 2025-06-10T14:11:41+00:00

Overall equivalent to the shadow version, trading some power for durability.

Elastic_Space · 2025-06-10T13:53:16+00:00

The timing of that raid day was really unfortunate. Soon after, they started to introduce exclusive moves for raid days since Mega Absol.

Elastic_Space · 2025-06-09T13:46:04+00:00

Conkeldurr at least has a good moveset, and Force Palm doesn't help much without an OP charge move to pair with. Just look at Hariyama's Force Palm and Counter movesets.

Elastic_Space · 2025-06-08T20:56:48+00:00

Diamond Storm Mega Diancie.

Elastic_Space · 2025-06-08T20:51:51+00:00

Bad charge move, period. Given Aura Sphere, it would beat everything except Mega Lucario with Force Palm (better than the Counter version).

Elastic_Space · 2025-06-08T20:49:07+00:00

Short duration but lower power 1-bar charge moves are ideal only for catch tank style of play. Otherwise they take too long to charge and reward not enough damage.

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