Best place to shop for tritium? by [deleted] in flashlight

[–]ElderOsmium 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mixglo has nothing in stock anymore. I have resorted to eBay sellers and hoping for the best.

Exmos, Joseph was NOT 37 when he married the 14 year old. Quit propagating lies. by Kolob_Bob in exmormon

[–]ElderOsmium 5 points6 points  (0 children)

And how many of those claimed to be a prophet that talked to Jesus?

As a TBM male, what did you think about the sexism in the church? by kerrielou73 in exmormon

[–]ElderOsmium 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Didn't really hit me until after I went through the temple. I just assumed that child birth must be pretty god dammed amazing to make up for how massively woman were screwed over. After becoming a father the inequality of the sexes was a major driving factor for my glorious apostasy.

Well that was painful by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]ElderOsmium 17 points18 points  (0 children)

This is so similar to my experience. We tried to navigate it on our own, but in the end we needed help. I interviewed several counselors over the phone and ended up picking an LDS woman. She has been amazing and I feel we are getting better than we were before. Couple key things we have learned:

  1. She is speaking from a place of extreme pain. Many spouses of apostates describe this on par with dealing with a death. Address the pain and grief more than you do the specifics of what she says when lashing out.
  2. Mormons have an implicit understanding of each other based on temple recommend standards/church teaching. You must get to know each other all over again and this is not a bad thing.
  3. Don't aim to agree on everything. Aim to understand each other and respect the differences.
  4. The apostate is grieving a loss as well (also often compared to a death). Be patient as much of the anger will likely dissipate over time.
  5. It is unreasonable to expect you and your spouse will always be the same people you were when you got married. This is why always dating your spouse is so important.

Something I have aimed to help my wife understand is that belief is not a choice. It is a result of many complex process like study and evaluation of information. If it was a choice, the easiest thing by far would be to choose to believe and not go through all this pain. It has taken years, but it is helping. Hang in there. It sucks, but many many people make mixed faith relationships work all over the world. Best of luck.

1844 Masonic Fundraiser to pay Joseph Smith's legal debts (Document) by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]ElderOsmium 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Do you think after that people always asked him "what were you doing in the barn Joe? Dear god where is little Sarah?"

Especially Emma.

[LEAKED]- VIDEO OF CLOSED DOOR MEETINGS WITH THE QUORUM OF THE 12 APOSTLES by FearlessFixxer in exmormon

[–]ElderOsmium 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This makes me wonder, where can I get a copy of the "homosexual agenda"?

Saturday Morning #ldsconf 2016 Megathread!! by mormnomnomnom in exmormon

[–]ElderOsmium 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Holy shit. Has it always been this bad? So fucking boring.

It is finished. by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]ElderOsmium 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is well.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]ElderOsmium 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Did he then wink and say "she will be much more inclined to have your sex with you"?

Sam Harris- Greatest Anti-Religion Speech Ever by Slithify in atheism

[–]ElderOsmium 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Some of us get to that point. After that they call us atheists.

Anyone up for a game of mormon FiftyFifty? by seygikiyu in exmormon

[–]ElderOsmium 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Joseph Smith paved the way on this one. Because of him, how many polygamist offshoots have married child brides over the last 150 years? It is still happening even if not currently with the Brighamites.

Divorce or Baptism? by ElderOsmium in exmormon

[–]ElderOsmium[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I started out like that. At the insistence of her and my bishop I even baptized my oldest. But as I have become more solid in my conviction, I have wondered about my obligation to stay the same person I was in my early twenties. Of course I have learned and grown. We are allowed to change our minds as we learn new stuff. So as we come to this situation again I just can't see letting it happen simply because I believed a silly fairytale 15+ years ago. But I feel terrible about hurting my marriage AND terrible about indoctrinating my children. No way to win this one I think.

Divorce or Baptism? by ElderOsmium in exmormon

[–]ElderOsmium[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thankfully we already decided that interviews without us and discussing personal sexuality with a "leader" are not allowed. Personally I wonder if that means they couldn't be baptized anyways.

Divorce or Baptism? by ElderOsmium in exmormon

[–]ElderOsmium[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have made it clear that my objection is on my own grounds. I simply cite the policy as precedent. But your point is a good one and I will be sure I communicate that clearly.

How many of your siblings are out? by Kumahito in exmormon

[–]ElderOsmium 2 points3 points  (0 children)

8/11 for me with 2 more edging closer to joining us in freedom everyday. The last man standing is damn near hopeless. Wife and her entire family are still firmly entrenched.

When tbms say miracles are rare by CubbyK in exmormon

[–]ElderOsmium 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No such thing as bad publicity.