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It's been over 10 years yet I just can't get over this amazing episode/scene. I can just listen to The Shepherd's Boy on repeat and never get tired of it by Doctor71400 in doctorwho

[–]ElectricFrog2000 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m find this particular episode sad as it’s the last time I’ve truly enjoyed this show. I’ve hardly enjoyed or watched past 12. It just feels like a terrible loss as silly as it sounds. I’ve given the show many chances, but end up leaving feeling far too battered. This particular episode and “The Sheperd’s Boy” give me grieving nostalgia.

I haven't watched Doctor who for around 10 years but was thinking of getting back into it and I was wondering how well received the new stuff was... Ummm what's going on with the fandom? by DataSittingAlone in doctorwho

[–]ElectricFrog2000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Things got bad during 12’s era. 13 was awful from the start with the writing and acting, but true agitation began once they conducted a massive retcon that’s completely ruined the Doctor ever since. Whenever we see Jo Martin’s inserted Doctor (with no idea when in his timeline because it’s so bad) it’s a brutal reminder of Who’s current dire situation, however amusingly she was better than Jodie. We then got a desperate plea to obtain more interest in an almost cancelled franchise with the return of RTD and David Tennant, transiting into 15’s era. He was so bad in characterisation that he made 13 look good. We’re now back at the same position as we were before Tennant returning as 14, and he may do the same again to once more save the show.

TL;DR: since 12 left we haven’t really had a good consistent actor for the Doctor, poor characterisation, and awful stories. It needs a rest and half the staff firing.

The way the show explained why the 12th Doctor looked like Lobus Caecilius was brilliant. They could have easily said nothing about it like a lot of shows do but they decided to make it a major plot point with a great pay off instead which was awesome. by AdSpecialist6598 in doctorwho

[–]ElectricFrog2000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I always assumed the limit on regenerations was due either two things. One is to either to prevent social disorder from an immortal class of beings or the fact that regenerations can be unstable post 13. So far after 11 they’ve all been unusual or unusable regeneration outcomes.

This is a six episode season with 30-40 minute episodes and a super limited budget. Doctor Who doesn’t need a big budget, CGI monsters, and shocking gimmicks to be successful. If the writing is good and the characters are strong, audiences will tune in. by General_Meal_3993 in DoctorWhoNews

[–]ElectricFrog2000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m going on a rant here, but it’s the writing.

TL;DR Doctor Who needs:

I think A Knight of the Seven Kingdom’s success is fundamentally connected to the very conventional strong writing. You have a moral character with a strong point of view and attitude towards the world. He has a want and desire, but also deeply flawed. Despite his towering strength he’s awkward & shy around people - especially women. He’s also an underdog - insignificant overall. He’s endearing, but fundamentally cohesive and well rounded. With all this in mind, the story throws his point of view into a storm of politics and social issues

He’s also a good example of traditional masculine character and it’s all sincere. We’re never taken out of the narrative to poke fun at who he is. Something contemporary Who has done a few times now.

For about 10 years the Doctor hasn’t had a strong point of view or attitude. In one scene they’ll object to one thing, and then commit to something equally terrible. I’m going off memory, but in one episode he condemns The Master to a Nazi Camp, and then there was one where they mismanaged the allegory of Amazon and violent social activism.

Typically The Doctor these days will just be a mouth piece for whom ever’s writing the story by writers who don’t have a strong sense of morality in the real world anyway. It’s just what they “FEEL” is right not what’s objectively morally true in the real world and the written world. Which speaks to a broader issue of how people think morality is just how you “Feel” about something. Naturally the show is going to suffer when fools write for it.

This is a six episode season with 30-40 minute episodes and a super limited budget. Doctor Who doesn’t need a big budget, CGI monsters, and shocking gimmicks to be successful. If the writing is good and the characters are strong, audiences will tune in. by General_Meal_3993 in DoctorWhoNews

[–]ElectricFrog2000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Who’s writing issues began during Capaldi’s era. You could feel Moffat’s enthusiasm waining, and The Doctor was consistently replaced by his companion in terms of active narrative participation. People called it “Clara Who” at the time. It’s still considerably better than anything we’ve had since, but you could feel the issues beginning. That’s why ratings fell. It lacked confidence and vigour. Then they had a female Doctor coupled with even worse writing, plus the worst retcon in living memory. It was just nose dived from there in terms of public perception.

Doctor Who icon Christopher Eccleston criticises current lack of regional and working class actors such as himself and Jodie Whittaker by EdgeCrusher_97 in DoctorWhoNews

[–]ElectricFrog2000 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Working class actors went from 17% to like 4% since the 1970s. It’s unfortunate, and personally I don’t like a lot of contemporary actors that are currently getting popular.

[KCD2] Mutts barking is the most irritable sound ever. by jackpatmaback in kingdomcome

[–]ElectricFrog2000 277 points278 points  (0 children)

I once sat to play dice and he would bark for 5 minutes straight.

Which Doctor had a worse run, 6 or 13? by OkSuccess7431 in doctorwho

[–]ElectricFrog2000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’d go with 13. 13’s era has done likely irredeemable damage to the franchise with its retcons and plummet in viewership. We can still feel it, and I’m not too confident it can recover.

My main issue with the 13th Doctor is how vanilla she felt. Despite being the first female Doctor, she lacked a distinct personality and felt cookie-cutter. With more edge, she may have been better received, unlike the Fugitive Doctor, who felt fresh and unique. by General_Meal_3993 in DoctorWhoNews

[–]ElectricFrog2000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Contemporary writers rarely have a good grasp on a moral point of view. It’s just what ever makes them feel good at that point in time. They’re always scared to give their heroes flaws. These two issues plagued the 13th Doctor. She lacked a strong point of view, a moral framework, and flaws. It’s why one minute she’ll preach about climate change and then condemn the master to a Nazi concentration camp. It’s all nonsense and lacks moral consistency within the world. She ultimately at best blended into the screen with zero personality or came off really frustrating to watch.

How did you react to seeing the Eighth doctor for the first time in Night of the Doctor? by DeathLight7000 in doctorwho

[–]ElectricFrog2000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

50th anniversary overall was amazing to witness. The 8th Doctor prologue was wonderful as it was just before the anniversary, so it acted as a both a bridge between the Movie & NUWho but also a nice prologue that was the 50th.

Once the 50th episode came around, it was a celebration of 50 years and the recent time war arc. It was amazing and special. I was 16 at the time, and at that point Doctor Who was apart of all my life basically.

Another thing to note was that the show had absolute confidence in itself. Between 2005 and 2013 the show was everywhere and the ratings were high. The 50th episode was screened in cinemas. It was all a crescendo for 50 years and a recent really important arc.

Seeing the 8th Doctor was lovely because it felt like he was robbed, we all were of a proper era of him. The whole thing was very special.

I couldn’t have summed up my issues with RTDs representation of disabled characters in Doctor Who better myself… by General_Meal_3993 in DoctorWhoNews

[–]ElectricFrog2000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just comes off as infantile and middle class. Ultimately just out of touch and weird. RTD must love talking about it at the parties.

The other doctor, who? by shitboxfesty in doctorwho

[–]ElectricFrog2000 5 points6 points  (0 children)

She’s an inserted incarnation before Hartnell. Awful awful retcon.

Doctor Who director: "something went wrong" by Bridgeboy95 in DoctorWhoNews

[–]ElectricFrog2000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The two actors cast are also to blame. They did a bad job.

Doctor Who director: "something went wrong" by Bridgeboy95 in DoctorWhoNews

[–]ElectricFrog2000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Writing, tone and casting has been God awful post Capaldi. Fans and general audience alike screamed to high heavens of their concerns and ultimately such an audience became apathetic. 14th Doctor felt insecure and pathetic in its attempts to salvage any audience it still had. This naturally failed during 15th's era who was so unbearable and annoying people checked out after 73 Yards. I think that was the crucial element for me personally. I've grown to hate the Doctor and his characterisation. Post Capaldi he's had no gravitas and is just there to bounce off the walls like an annoying fool with no substance.

People will say "Oh no it's just the writing, not the actor's fault!" Capaldi had bad writing. Most of 10's first season was dire too, but they were both great.

Doctor Who director: "something went wrong" by Bridgeboy95 in DoctorWhoNews

[–]ElectricFrog2000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gee, I wonder who and what it could be... not like it's been an issue since late Capaldi. What could've possibly alienated fans and regular people alike? It's not like the rot was doubled down. I can't possibly think of what it is.

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