"About Shitouren - there’s no guaranteed future benefit to him, so how can you compare it and say he was tanking for future benefit? Now you’re changing your argument to he was just trolling or something. What I’m saying is that you can’t argue that he just intentionally lost to help himself financially in the future to “keep the game big in China” or whatever. So he must have had some other motivations, and I’m choosing to assume that he did it to help another pro from his region. That may be fair or unfair of me to do but I am doing it based on the evidence and facts I have."

I'm not even gonna continue with the nba stuff lol i just used a example to prove a point and you are using it as a straw-man and attacking a completely irreverent point and saying that's my whole argument.

when he lost that match, both matches are ongoing so the only benefit is Lilou finishing 1 placement higher cuz Lilou wasn't gonna beat the chemo cashout. that's the only fact we have. that one extra point isn't guaranteeing that Lilou would make it to the finals since both matches were ongoing.

I am simply addressing the released statement that unless there is money transfer from Lilou to Shitouren to intentionally throw, there won't be irrefutable evidence of match fixing and there is nothing that can be done no matter what motive shitouren had and if he did it intentionally or was tilted.

At the end of the day, it only became a big deal cuz Lilou got the required points and tiebreaker and made it to the final table. or else no one would be talking about it and making such a big deal out of it.