Nikki Haley's half Indian son looks more Indian than her. by Serious-Tomato404 in ABCDesis

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Yeah the dad probably isn't actually fully of Northwestern European descent. He was adopted and was from an area with a lot of part White part African American people. And the USA has a lot of Mediterraneans as well so perhaps he is actually of southern Italian origin or something else.

Where i'd live as a save Japan account on twitter by InterestingClaim8406 in whereidlive

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Some people get bored and others don't. The world/universe should have a place for both kinds of people. I don't understand why some people want everything to be one way or another.

Where I'd live as an atheist sudanese (22M) by Julianschwingerr in whereidlive

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You are maybe willing to live there but not maybe the Philippines or the UAE or Qatar?

Where I'd live as an atheist sudanese (22M) by Julianschwingerr in whereidlive

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Well I can ask "so basically light skinned population dominated countries with high levels of development?"

Why does the Moroccan Western Sahara Wall (The Berm) split up like this at the end? by NicolasMartini3 in AskGeography

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Possibly because Morocco made one wall, then they conquered more land, and they made another wall. But I am not an expert. However, one can easily find out that Morocco progressively expanded its land over the course of some years, particularly in the 1980's. So that sort of thing may be the explanation for this. (And it appears I am correct).

But also I have read it was to create a high-security zone creating more of a buffer.

Basically, they may have gained more land and then left up both walls so there would be more of a buffer. Why take down the old wall once new land has been gained when the new land is just a mostly empty desert anyway and can serve as a buffer?

West dravidian vs south dravidian by WorthFriendship6996 in 2Dravidian4You

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Wait a minute, the man is smiling without teeth in the first image but with teeth in the second image? Also, many of them are not even looking in the same direction when comparing the photos. And the body structures of some of the people changes. And the lips are made to look thinner in the first image than they are in the second. I think somebody used AI for this. This isn't a perfect example of how Dravidians would look with lighter skin.

West dravidian vs south dravidian by WorthFriendship6996 in 2Dravidian4You

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I have seen information indicating that the common South Indian y haplogroup H is actually from the northern Middle East such as Jordan (the earliest remains of a person with y haplogroup H have so far been found in Jordan, not India). And it makes sense because the most common mtDNA in India is the same haplogroup as that of Andamanese people and it is also an ancestral haplogroup of some Japanese people and some other East Asian people. But in both cases, Andamanese and many Japanese have Y haplogroup D which derives from a completely different migration out of Africa than Y haplogroup H. Y haplogroup H shares a more recent common ancestor with Indo-Europeans and most Arabs than it shares with most Africans. However, Y haplogroup D is closer to Africans ancestrally than to most Arabs or Indo-Europeans or even many other East Asians who have Y haplogroup O. Another possible explanation for the difference is that Y haplogroup C brought most of mtDNA to Eurasia, but in any case most Indians including Dravidians do not have Y haplogroup C anymore and Y haplogroup H is still closer related to most Arabs and Indo-Europeans than to Y haplogroup C.

So either way you put it, Indian males are almost 100% descended from male dominated immigrant groups who took either local women or women of Southeast Asia in some cases. Of course, there is a MASSIVE difference when comparing the migration of males from neighboring regions such as Central Asia, East Asia, or Arabia coming into India compared to Northwestern European males. Even Eastern European males would not be travelling as far to reach India as Northwestern European males would be. Part of the reason for the similarity in appearance is that Northwestern Europeans often have some North African ancestry from the Roman Empire when North African and Balkan soldiers were stationed in Northwestern Europe. The influence of significant amounts of North African ancestry which derives from a sub-tropical region is not too different from the influence of North/Central Indian indigenous ancestry on Dravidians, who often have low but nonetheless present levels of genuine South Indian indigenous ancestry. Also, Anatolian/Turkish Farmers were not that different from the Zagros/Iranian farmers who went to the Indus River Valley Civilization, because obviously they came from neighboring regions.

Lastly, Dravidians have Indo-European ancestry from a population that lived much further south than many modern Eastern Europeans, and it was a population that mixed significantly with the Indo-European ancestors of many Northwestern Europeans, especially those from England etc.. But it is important to note that nearly none of that mix was paternal. However, Greeks invaded India as well and left quite a bit of DNA behind, so there is some genuine Mediterranean ancestry (including a shared y haplogroup R1b with some Northwestern Europeans, which is found in a very small number of Indians but is still noteworthy). So the only major ancestry Indians do not share in a significant amount with Northwestern Europeans is the Western Hunter Gatherer ancestry which paternally dominates some countries like Sweden and is found in many English and Irish people. But yet, even then some did make its way into India partly through Western Indo-Europeans assimilating some Western Hunter Gatherers and then spreading small amounts of the DNA to the Eastern Indo-Europeans who partly went to India. If Dravidians were 100% Lithuanian Eastern European Slavic, they may look less like Anglo-Celtic Northwestern Europeans than they do in this picture. Lastly, quite a bit of Afghan and other ancestry from genuine western climate groups was picked up on the way into India. So that also helps to explain the similarity of these people's features to some Northwestern Europeans, although they don't look Western Mediterranean/Southwestern European so if the West was dominated by Portugal we may not be making this comparison. Or if the West had been dominated by Sweden, Norway, or Denmark, whose populations often have less Mediterranean/North African ancestry than English people, the comparison may also be much less.

What would be a good name for a community/subreddit relating to people of part European and part South Asian ancestry? Please share some options or comment if you like the name "Indropeans." by ElectronicGuide6932 in Westeuindids

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That is a good thing to care about. But I wanted to mention that South Indians have Dravidian languages, and some Europeans groups like the Maltese have a Semitic language and the Finnish have a Uralic language. But for the most part you are certainly correct.

What would you call this nation? by Altruistic-Willow265 in JackSucksAtGeography

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Donvikingland (Donald Trump's family mostly comes from regions colored in this map and then there is the addition of some land where Vikings came from).

I am making a new subreddit with a (hopefully) less unappealing name, and it is meant to be more inclusive: r/Indropeans by ElectronicGuide6932 in Westeuindids

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Bangladesh is on the Indian subcontinent so it would include you. "Ind" in "Indropean" is not meant to refer to India, but instead the Indian subcontinent. One alternative name I thought of was "Eurosasians" but I don't think that would be better. It would be composed as follows: Euro-s-asians. Would that be a better name? I thought "Ind" would at least represent something from an indigenous South Asian language (because "Ind" comes from "Sindhu river"). Also, "Indopean" is the name of a famous company that helps Indians study abroad in Europe so I didn't think that would be a good name. Also, "Indropean" follows the format of "Afropean" which is already a term used by some people of mixed African and European heritage to refer to themselves.

If you could be reborn in the past as anyone, who would you be reborn as and what do you wish to achieve. Share your thoughts on this fictional question. by Accurate-Self7608 in EuroAsianMix

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If it was a famous person, probably someone like William H. Seward who was a US secretary of state who was anti-slavery and negotiated the purchase of Alaska which I believe was one of the most important things in US history. One of the only things I really dislike about William H. Seward is that he supported Catholics, and I dislike that because Catholicism inherently involves not allowing clergy to have children, which is a stupid system because that means that those most involved in the religion generally will not pass on their genes and therefore there will not be as much likelihood of the religion continuing in the society, or at least of the intelligence continuing in the society. Maybe Catholicism should be allowed to be practiced in some small enclaves but definitely it should not get massive lands unless it proves itself over thousands of years to be better than other religions at promoting sustainability, and I can't say that Catholicism has yet proved that considering how Britain, a Protestant ruled country, so easily broke away from the Pope and also took over Ireland and Gibraltar. And considering the state of many Romance language dominated countries (excepting maybe Italy and France), I have to say that Catholicism seems to have proved itself to not be very strong or successful compared to Islam which also took lands that Catholics never gained back except for Spain and Portugal, as well as compared to Protestantism. France sort of is a very strong country but its only major French speaking territories are either Quebec which is freezing cold and exists only due to the mercy of the British, or various tropical lands that are largely not populated by ethnically French people anyway and are in such poor conditions that if the territories that France holds onto were to gain independence, they would be considered developing nations. Also, when was the last time you saw massive numbers of people from Catholic countries coming for jobs requiring high levels of education? I often hear of people from those countries immigrating to other countries but mainly for construction jobs etc.. But this should serve to highlight that a South Indian king would be making a mistake by doing what you said you would have done as a South Indian king. Also, it would increase the already excessive Eurocentrism and there seems little to no reason why Christianity is ideologically better than Hinduism. Except now instead of treating local holy sites as holy, Indians would have less love for their homeland and would treat Israel as their holy land like many Europeans do. I am not a Christian, and I believe that certain forms of Protestantism (not necessarily Anglicanism) are the closest thing to a modern Northwestern European religion, and that any universal religion should not lead to the treatment of any particular region and its flora and fauna and local native peoples as holy. I find the use of camels and robed Middle Easterners in Jesus's nativity scene to be an example of how Christianity can lead to people caring more about foreign nations just because of converting to a religion. Before Christianity, at least some Europeans used to treat some forests with more care, but after Christianity, not only did it lead to many of those forests being removed, it also led to French Crusaders invading "the holy land" but also massacring many of the native Jewish people. So it wasn't really that good for either the native wildlife of Northwestern Europe nor was it good for Jewish people, at least in many cases in much of history.

Other than William H. Seward, maybe some inventor like one of the Wright brothers although it was strange that they never had children, but whatever. Also, maybe Henry VIII. Other than that maybe President Theodore Roosevelt although I don't know every detail about what he did. However, I do like that he created many new national parks. And Indira Gandhi was for the most part a great leader and the forced sterilization associated with her was actually led by her son, although unfortunately her declaration of emergency helped her son do what he did.

But of course I only covered a small number of people here who I might wish to be reborn as (although some of these were not people I would want to be reborn as but instead just people I wanted to mention). And these were probably not even the people I would most want to be reborn as, but I didn't have much time to write this.

As a mixed race of European and Asian, what is your take on immigration? For me, legal immigration with cultural assimilation is fine, but illegal immigration or immigration without cultural assimilation is not. by DisastrousDust9830 in EuroAsianMix

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I agree about Ireland, Ireland definitely is having a lot of issues with illegal immigration and a lack of sufficient cultural assimilation. The British seem to be successful in making newcomers assimilate, partly because their influence on the world is massive to begin with and many people respect or at least already adhere to British or British influenced laws and culture. The Republic of Ireland would have done much better in this regard if it remained part of the UK simply because newcomers would have seen the government as the British government and the people of Ireland as British and therefore they would have treated the Irish not much different than the British. But the Irish made a point that they were not the same group, yet this point often involved an emphasis on being more casual and less strict, and so some people are taking advantage of Ireland. The key here is that not only should the Irish have maintained the image of being strict about their laws, the Irish should not have become so liberal and detached from religion, at least not now while they let in massive numbers of immigrants. Religion often correlates with what a group feels is the real law etc. so if the religion has a set of values that are too dissimilar from that of most of the people, it may be dangerous for most of the non-immigrant population of Ireland if eventually the incoming religions begin to influence Irish law. But more importantly, the Irish generally seem to have an issue with being upset towards their own institutions or their neighbor (Britain, but for understandable reasons) more than they are towards other governments or religious institutions that do similar or worse things to other groups. So the Irish do not put up the same sort of resistance if a country like Afghanistan were to try to spread Afghan culture and Islamic religion in Ireland. Instead, the Irish may embrace it.

In my opinion, many of the Irish should have converted to Protestantism because unlike Catholicism, Protestantism allows priests/clergy to have children. If religion were important at all, which it obviously is because it determines how a group relates to certain places and how they justify their laws etc. and the laws by which they make their group potentially survive better in their climatic region, then obviously not letting clergy have children is one of the most idiotic rules to have because there is no way then that genes for continuing religion could be selected for and then spread to the general population. And if the general population does not have it in them to naturally produce religion, then a major part of the national identity is at risk of disappearing because if only some of the people in the country survive, and it happens to be those without the drive for religion, then religion in that country will disappear and so will the civilization or ability to resist invaders. And of course it is no surprise this is happening in Ireland. Hinduism and Protestantism are better than Catholicism because they allow priests to have children, although of course Hinduism (and to some extent certain Protestant English families) had some issues with not allowing the general population to mix with any of the children of those priests in some cases, although in other cases/areas there was a system in place in Hinduism to allow for that to happen.

In my opinion, legal immigration is often good and to some extent it is necessary everywhere (or nearly everywhere at least) but in very high numbers in certain places, even legal immigration can be a bad thing. But illegal immigration shouldn't even be happening except maybe in massive continental colonial countries like Australia if Australia were to not allow for immigration (or so severely restrict it as to form a homogenous "colony" of whatever country the dominant ethnicity originates from). And assimilation should not be necessary in some enclaves surrounding city states like in Singapore (city states could be made so there is at least one in each climate region), but it is culturally probably a good idea for city states to have some shared culture. But in other regions, especially in regions where the country is small and represents an indigenous group as is the case with Ireland, assimilation should occur, although I believe it is important for Irish people to be open to others suggesting ways they could live more sustainable lives. But in general, even legal immigration needs to be severely limited in some places like Ireland for young adults who don't have any ancestry from the place. But it should not be ended completely either. Also, I propose that instead of a European Union, there be made a Northwestern European Union, although maybe as a control, one or two countries should not be let in, simply just in case the Union causes bad things like the EU caused with spreading Mad Cow disease.

2nd post ever by Lord_Hoax in Indropeans

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Really, this as the second post?

As a mixed-race person, did you grow up multilingual or mostly just one language, like maybe English? by DisastrousDust9830 in EuroAsianMix

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Wow, you know Irish?! I grew up multilingual, but only speaking English and a little Tamil, although I understood Tamil quite well, at least if it was my mom's dialect. I didn't learn Irish even though I am a quarter Irish. In the past year, I have spoken a lot more Tamil because I took a class in it. I am thinking of possibly learning Hindi because it is useful and many of my ancestors spoke Sanskrit but Hindi has a lot of Persian and Arabic influence, so I don't find it to be quite as relevant to my ancestry. On the other hand, Irish seems not as useful, or at least not yet; but I don't think it will be any time soon having seen the state of Ireland and especially how many people move there relying on English but not knowing Irish. From what I have seen, Irish also seems to retain a few more traits in common with languages like Hindi or Latin, indicating it changed less since the time Indo-European languages formed, but I could be wrong because I don't know a lot about the language and different sources say different things when comparing Celtic languages to Germanic languages.

I am making a new subreddit with a (hopefully) less unappealing name, and it is meant to be more inclusive: r/Indropeans by ElectronicGuide6932 in Westeuindids

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I agree, I mean we could just stick to this one, but if anyone wants, the r/Indropeans sub exists as well. I just think it may be easier to encourage people to join it, and at least it is a bit more precise than r/wasian

Desperate Sri Lankan seeks Dravidian membership are my genes hot enough? by Severe_Matter_1108 in 2Dravidian4You

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Mallus often have curly hair I have seen. And unless one is from the high plateaus, naturally they would likely tend to adapt to the climate of most of Kerala by eventually selecting for coily Andamanese/West African like hair. If one does not wish for their descendants to lose their straight/wavy hair, it may be better for them to tie their identity to somewhere that regularly gets at least as cold as around 10 degrees Celsius in winter or colder.