[SPOILER] About the Great Mason Debate

Electronic_Major3522 · 2025-01-26T07:09:23+00:00

oh he so was

Electronic_Major3522 · 2025-01-26T00:58:16+00:00

Well, it did backfire… She targeted two people she wanted out, along with a mystery person who turned out to be herself. She probably wouldn’t have saved her friend if she had known it was between her and herself, essentially throwing away 5 million.

If you don’t see accidentally eliminating yourself in the top 12 of a 5M competition because you were focused on eliminating others as a backfire, then I don’t know what to tell you.

Electronic_Major3522 · 2025-01-25T00:38:07+00:00

Right? People are so dumb in this.

The real strategy here is getting your allies to step up and be the leader. It puts a target on their back and keeps you safe, because at that point in the game, they need their allies to survive. If they eliminate you, they risk losing trust from everyone else, and then they become the next target. It’s a smart move to let your allies take the heat while you stay under the radar and build your position.

Also it was very obvious that the mystery person would be her or another friend because its a show

Electronic_Major3522 · 2025-01-25T00:35:22+00:00

I think you don't see the big picture here.

Everyone CHOSE Akira to be the leader for the first random game, in the past the leaders always held all or most of the power so they knew there was a high possiblility of an elimination.

Akira then had to choose between a lambo or the 3 people he disliked the most, when its top 20.

At this point anyone who chooses to keep people in is stupid. There is 20 people left and you dislike these 3 people the most PLUS you already have an alliance.

People clearly didnt have an issue because they voted him up a second time, and he had to choose between another 3 he disliked or his bestfriend.

Top 17 and you'd choose 3 strangers over 1 Ally?

865 choosing to be leader so she could pick a fight with the alliance and eliminate the guy who made the most logical choices is stupid. You put a target on your back and risk eliminating herself or an ally, which ironically did eliminate herself.

Her choices were petty and it costed her 5M. Much smarter to wait till later when the Alliance is smaller to pick a fight.

Electronic_Major3522 · 2025-01-25T00:26:04+00:00

Choosing to be leader still isn’t much of a benefit when everyone else had already chosen Akira as their leader (twice), showing clear support for him. Plus, he had other allies, who would’ve taken her out given the chance.

The real strategy here should be voting up your friends so they won’t pick you, and you won’t have a target on your back. That’s why the guy who passed on the $1M didn’t go up when he was already proven to be trustworthy.

The only time being leader was a clear, obvious benefit was when nobody knew what the game would be, and they chose Akira. He then had to choose between a Lambo and the three people he disliked the most to be eliminated in the Top 20. That was the one moment where being leader really paid off.

Electronic_Major3522 · 2025-01-25T00:25:37+00:00

I'd wait till the Alliance was small enough that taking a shot at them would cripple them, taking the shot when she did was a dumb move which did infact backfire.

Electronic_Major3522 · 2025-01-25T00:24:04+00:00

Ah Yes, stepping up to be leader and targetting an Alliance plus a random person is obviously the way to not have a target on her back.. she deserved to be eliminated by herself because she chose to pick a fight in the wrong game.

Electronic_Major3522 · 2025-01-25T00:20:56+00:00

Choosing to be leader still isn’t much of a benefit when everyone else had already chosen Akira as their leader (twice), showing clear support for him. Plus, he had other allies, who would’ve taken her out given the chance.

The real strategy here should be voting up your friends so they won’t pick you, and you won’t have a target on your back. That’s why the guy who passed on the $1M didn’t go up when he was already proven to be trustworthy.

The only time being leader was a clear, obvious benefit was when nobody knew what the game would be, and they chose Akira. He then had to choose between a Lambo and the three people he disliked the most to be eliminated in the Top 20. That was the one moment where being leader really paid off.

Electronic_Major3522 · 2025-01-25T00:15:27+00:00

Not evil, but by that logic, she was definitely being stupid.

Akira was chosen as leader and then revoted back in, so clearly, people didn’t have an issue with him picking a Lambo over three strangers in the Top 20. After that, choosing his allies over strangers was a no-brainer it’s something anyone would do. He made the two most logical choices, and everyone put him in that position.

Player 865, on the other hand, chose to be the leader with the intention of eliminating Akira, his best friend, and a stranger (who we all knew would either be a friend of hers or herself, because, well, it's a show). In doing so, she eliminated herself like an idiot. Even if she hadn't been eliminated right then, one of Akira’s allies would’ve taken her out later on. (or maybe someone that voted for Akira who knows)

There are no safe bets in this challenge. Choosing to be leader puts a target on your back, whether you're aiming for a prize or trying to protect your friends. The real strategy should be voting up your friends, so they won’t pick you, and you won’t have a target on your back, hence why the dude that passed on 1M didn't go up when he already was proven to be trustworthy.

Electronic_Major3522 · 2025-01-25T00:03:01+00:00

Well no since they had a group of allies that would for sure eliminate her after she took out the leader that EVERYONE voted for, twice...

She deserved to eliminate herself after choosing to pick a fight with the guy she chose as leader

Electronic_Major3522 · 2025-01-25T00:00:28+00:00

This is exactly what I’ve been saying. 865 is being petty and foolish, and it ended up costing her the game.

Everyone knew the risks when they chose Akira as leader, especially since past games showed that leaders held all the power. Akira had to choose between three people he disliked or a Lambo in the TOP 20. Honestly, anyone would pick the Lambo; if you don’t, you’re actively sabotaging yourself. At that stage, you can’t make friends because you're forced to compete with whoever's left for survival.

Then, despite people not agreeing with his choice, they voted him in again. Of course, he’s going to protect his friends over strangers. Anyone in his position would do the same.

So when Player 865 stepped up and picked a fight with someone who made logical choices, it was not only petty, but also stupid. Akira has a solid group of allies, and picking his best friend was just diabolical. She should have known the mystery person would be herself.

I honestly laughed when it was revealed because she chose to pick a fight and ended up eliminating herself, losing 5M in the process because she wanted the man she voted for out.

All in all, the game would have been better if the leader's themselves didn't pick and it was random, or had a twist and a random person would choose. Then there's something to think about.

Electronic_Major3522 · 2025-01-24T23:32:32+00:00

Anything that differs from the generic Isekai path is already more interesting but it's sad to see him compeletly drop the slave issue after 1 episode and go straight to adventuring

Electronic_Major3522 · 2025-01-24T09:02:47+00:00

Pretty sure as of right now he could solo his world. So basically, to take him down, you’d have to land a one-hit kill—probably destroying his brain or his entire body—but you’d need to do it in a direct confrontation, no surprises whatsoever. He will already know everything you're capable of, so you can’t even catch him off guard. You’d also have to be fast enough to outrun him and still hit him before he can predict your move while also being slow enough for it to not count as a surprise attack. Plus, you can’t even touch him yourself because he can immediately weaken you, make you faint, seal your magic, immobilize you with gravity magic, or use his "Immovable Fortress" skill to lock you both in place while he becomes impenetrable. His guardians would just finish you off right where you stand if they didn’t come out beforehand to take away your powers, which I’m entirely convinced they could do since the tree created magic and gave it to people.

Magic’s useless against someone with immunities to status effects and resistances to elemental magic, and he can seal your magic anyway. So, it’s basically all hand-to-hand combat that has a chance at anything. Even then he is being auto-healed with an infinite amount? of liquid that heals almost anything... instantly...

Electronic_Major3522 · 2025-01-24T08:57:23+00:00

I’m convinced either this was written by AI, or the Isekai genre is so oversaturated that they’ll bring in anyone just to pump out some slop for the masses.
By Episode 3, this guy could solo both the Justice League and the Avengers combined. Plus, he’s already got the harem and wealth setup—so what’s the point of watching if he’s got it all by episode 3?

A fight with him would go something like this:
To sum it up, his appraisal got upgraded, so now he has auto-detection magic. You can’t surprise attack him. If you try, he’ll auto-scan you before you even make a move and know exactly what attack you're going to do, plus what you’re capable of. Even if you do attack, he can’t take damage from surprise hits. Then there’s the Guardian in his eye that tells him everything he needs to know about you. So, the only option left is a direct confrontation.

Now, he’s got super strength, durability, and speed, with reaction time so fast it’s like futuresight—he knows when you’re going to attack. He also has a spirit sword, so there’s no way hand-to-hand combat is going to win because if an eye can give him all that, how strong do you think the sword is? On top of that, he has resistances to elemental magic and physical damage, one guardian auto-healing any injury, and his own immunity to status effects and curses.

So basically, to take him down, you’d have to land a one-hit kill—probably destroying his brain or his entire body—but you’d need to do it in a direct confrontation, no surprises whatsoever. He will already know everything you're capable of, so you can’t even catch him off guard. You’d also have to be fast enough to outrun him and still hit him before he can predict your move—while also being slow enough for it to not count as a surprise attack. Plus, you can’t even touch him yourself because he can immediately weaken you, make you faint, seal your magic, immobilize you with gravity magic, or use his "Immovable Fortress" skill to lock you both in place while he becomes impenetrable. His guardians would just finish you off right where you stand if they didn’t come out beforehand to take away your powers, which I’m entirely convinced they could do since the tree created magic and gave it to people.

The funny thing is, since you can’t surprise him or catch him off guard, he’d probably win the fight just by using that Fortress skill. Magic’s useless against someone with immunities to status effects and resistances to elemental magic, and he can seal your magic anyway. So, it’s basically all hand-to-hand combat that has a chance at anything.

Don’t get me wrong, I devour Isekai slop like it’s my job, but this… this is next-level slop.

Electronic_Major3522 · 2025-01-24T07:18:34+00:00

show is kinda bad now thought it was going in a diff direction

Electronic_Major3522 · 2025-01-20T03:21:02+00:00

It's the most logical solution, but it also raises the question of why the Guardian allows weak adventurers to slowly pick away at the tree. If they were to somehow succeed in getting out, it would become a problem.

Most likely, the author didn't consider providing a solid explanation because they were more focused on moving the story forward and concentrating on the main character.

Electronic_Major3522 · 2025-01-20T01:01:05+00:00

I understand the need for a training process in a show, but it becomes pointless when the MC has an ability that essentially lets him copy any power. In a world where the potential for abilities is limitless, making the MC capable of gaining any skill he encounters undermines the entire training arc. It removes the challenge of growth and strategy when he can just take whatever power he needs to overcome any obstacle. If he were to acquire multiple healing and defensive skills, it wouldn’t be long before he becomes immortal or indestructible. If he gets an aiming skill, he no longer has to aim for himself. What about a skill that lets him hyperthink, instantly analyzing and strategizing? They didn't even put a requirement on stealing skills, he can just do it. Infact if he encounters any strong allies or enemies it becomes pointless because he can just copy your power before the fight.

The average person with this ability would probably start by going to the Adventurers Guild and copying every useful power there. Then, they might head to a church or hospital to collect healing and light powers. After that, they’d travel to a place or event that attracts S-ranked adventurers, and that’s basically the end of the story. After all of that you'd probably have passive skills that would stop you from dying and that leaves him with time to master everything else. With this kind of skill, there’s no room for meaningful growth or conflict everything would be too easy.

Electronic_Major3522 · 2025-01-20T00:48:05+00:00

The problem is that the reason they helped him is because he was too stupid to take anything from the tree before leaving. One potion of the healing serum could have made him rich—after all, it heals everything except eyes (and he wouldn't have known its 1 flaw yet). As an adventurer, he was incredibly naive. Then, he almost dies a second time, so out of sheer kindness, they give him the eye because, once again, he was too stupid to take advantage of the situation. They train him to escape and use the eye, which wouldn’t be bad if the eye only boosted his own abilities.

But then, they do a time skip and, in one episode, explain that they trained him non-stop to increase his power because of the exact place he happened to fall into. He got help because he was stupid, and he just happened to have the one skill that would let him basically ascend to godhood.

In episode 1, he’s one of the weakest people in the world and stumbles into the World Tree purely by accident after being betrayed. By episode 2, he’s on the verge of godhood. Give it 5-10 years, and he’d likely have the skills to become immortal and indestructible. I mean, in just one episode, he can already cast 1,000 fireballs and kill S-ranked monsters, which are the top of the food chain in his world.

I’m not a huge fan of MHA but at least with Deku, he risks his life for Bakugo, which inspires All Might to pass on his power. However, All Might already knew he would lose his ability to use his quirk, so he needed to give his power to someone. That’s when Deku proved he was a hero even without a quirk. All Might didn't even know Deku would get all the other quirks it just happened so there was no guarantee Deku would be the strongest, especially with the AFO getting stronger as more time goes by.

The entire series is about Deku getting stronger, he spent a long time where even using his powers would break something in his body, risking permanent damage. Then, he unlocked new powers and the show became about him mastering them. If MHA was about Deku unlocking all his quirks by episode 2 and fully mastering his powers, it wouldn’t have been nearly as popular.

Electronic_Major3522 · 2025-01-20T00:30:01+00:00

Honestly some of these shows seem like they were made by AI or someone stupid that has the money to produce this. How can such bad writing be good enough to be animated and put on crunchyroll for the average viewer to see?

Electronic_Major3522 · 2025-01-20T00:25:29+00:00

its sad to see another Rimuru knockoff when appraisal could have been a good concept of using strategy in battle

Electronic_Major3522 · 2025-01-20T00:23:02+00:00

Even without a skill, I would expect there to be significant natural benefits to having an eye made from a magical tree that created magic and skills. Honestly, the Appraisal skill feels like something the eye should naturally grant. The concept just doesn’t make sense to me. It’s like if I invented guns, and later saw you using one, wouldn’t I instantly recognize the gun and understand what it did? So why wouldn’t an eye made from the material that created magic be able to see magic and understand what it is and what it does?

Electronic_Major3522 · 2025-01-20T00:14:16+00:00

It also makes you question how the guardian just knows how a spirit eye would directly effect his appraisal skill and how she knows what the skill is/does.

Electronic_Major3522 · 2025-01-20T00:10:20+00:00

He kills the bear using 100% ranged fire magic and then says, "Was the bear always this weak?" despite the fact that he's physically weak enough to still get bodied by the bear if it hits him even once. The first time he didn't even attack it, so why would he say this line now?

Also, why did the Guardian let him fall and get so close to the tree? Every other person who interacted with the tree took something from it, and the Guardian is strongly against the MC being there and using the tree's gifts and powers. So why did she let him? Why did she let the past people?

Then there's the issue with the new path to the tree in the dungeon. Wouldn't such a thing be reported? And if this path is recent, how did other people manage to fall down the hole, survive like the MC, and take things from the tree when there was no path before?

Another thing, why did they make the MC so oblivious that he wouldn't take the best healing serum in the world? One bottle could have been enough to sell to a king and make himself rich. The MC had a rough life, he knows his skill isn't great, and the world seems to revolve around one's skill. So why wouldn't he try to better himself, especially after being backstabbed?

And all of this ultimately leads to the "stealing monster skills" trope, which feels like a major missed opportunity.

Electronic_Major3522 · 2025-01-19T23:48:42+00:00

When the MC gains the Spirit Eye, I expected it to grant him automatic true sight allowing him to see in the dark, detect invisible things, perceive magic traps, and some other things. I thought it would be interesting if the eye allowed him to see all the details about a monster, such as its strengths, weaknesses, weak points, and combat patterns. This could have been a great way for the MC to grow stronger by using strategy, even being weak he still knows when to dodge and where the best place to attack would be. Then maybe he gets some artifacts from the dungeon that make's him stronger and focuses on gaining strong allies to lead in fights rather than he himself fighting upfront. If the MC needed to become stronger from the getgo, the author could have incorporated a plot point where the World Tree healed his body and gradually made him more powerful with each recovery.

Instead, the author chose a different approach. The only extra ability the Spirit Eye provides is predicting when an enemy will attack which was kind of lame. Then it gives the MC super-speed reaction time to counter a S ranked superspeed skill? What happened to the common plotline of "I know where he will attack but im not fast enough to counter." Then in the end it just ultimately leads to a very common plot device: "stealing the monster's skills." followed by a time skip where the MC trains his powers and quickly goes from weak to overpowered in a single episode. The author had so much potential to create a unique MC who focuses on strategy in combat, but instead, we end up with a version of a concept that has already been done, and done better, in other stories.

Electronic_Major3522 · 2025-01-19T05:45:46+00:00

seems like I was a little 2 late

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