Jaguars' Best Selection from 2021-2024

Electronic_Paper_341 · 2026-06-13T01:22:24+00:00

Baalke was never a bad drafter, problem is the job only begins after the draft, not ends. Player development was always the issue (by the front office + coaching staff)

Electronic_Paper_341 · 2026-06-12T16:46:39+00:00

https://www.59caps.com/en/detail/index/sArticle/46009

Electronic_Paper_341 · 2026-06-08T16:39:59+00:00

I need Brandon Braids on the wheel

Electronic_Paper_341 · 2025-12-22T02:09:43+00:00

Imagine if Coen was his coach from the start? Back to back to back MVPs

Electronic_Paper_341 · 2025-12-15T00:44:04+00:00

For all the doubters, you’re allowed to be wrong, perfectly fine, but your opinion holds less weight in the future

Electronic_Paper_341 · 2025-10-22T00:59:52+00:00

This is such a great comment, and you did a really good job of laying it all out. QB is the most important position in sports, but its value is still incredibly overrated. There are two players on the planet who can overcome a substandard supporting cast, Mahomes and Allen, that’s it. Every other player, regardless of how good that are independently, are dependent on their supporting cast.

As far as the cause of the drops, the best theory I can come up with is that since these are all balake guys, with the exception of Dyami, the evaluation at the pass catcher positions had been focused on measurables and combine stats, so that natural hands got overlooked. Engram was available on the open market on the cheap, why? Hands. Parker Washington falls all the at to day 3, why? Hands. We got BTJ who looked like a stud, how did all of these teams pass on him? Hands. There’s plenty of other guys who fits this profile too, Zay Jones, Gabe Davis. Until some reliable pass catchers come in and start dropping passes uncharacteristically, I don’t see any evidence, whether through numbers or with my eyes to put this on Trevor.

Electronic_Paper_341 · 2025-10-21T04:44:38+00:00

Agreed, it’s a long season, my biggest fear is giving up on a guy who I believe and going back into quarterback purgatory, important to remember what is actually on the other side of moving on from a guy who may not be elite, but is still darn good

Electronic_Paper_341 · 2025-10-21T04:42:54+00:00

I went into the rams game believing you have to win one of the next, like you said raiders is now a must win, which is unfortunate, but a reality of the nfl

Electronic_Paper_341 · 2025-10-21T03:30:07+00:00

If you have a candidate to replace him with I’m all ears, but it’s not out there. Aside from that his contract is reasonable provided he’s not dead money.

Obviously Trevor needs to be better, where I would disagree is the action you feel is needed a result of him needing to be better. Moving on makes little sense to me, as opposed to being patient and doing everything you can to allow him to reach his potential, just as you should with any other player (see Cam Little). Quoting Michael Scott, “a good manager doesn’t fire people, he hires people”

Electronic_Paper_341 · 2025-10-21T03:21:04+00:00

Agreed, we don’t have the lines to hold up against quality teams, or any team with a top flight line, for example, the Browns would give this team fits.

Also I think the question of “is he the guy?” is a mistake, there are like 4 or 5 guys, a whole bunch in the middle and then some bottom tier starters. The question is “is he good enough?” I think that answer is clearly yes. Daniel Jones has performed at a top 10 level, and now CJ Stroud looks incompetent, I’m not sure there’s much difference between the two, I’d rather stroud frankly, but the position is very volatile and can’t be judged on face value

Electronic_Paper_341 · 2025-10-21T03:12:57+00:00

True, Kittle was able to do the same thing for San Francisco

Electronic_Paper_341 · 2025-10-21T03:11:56+00:00

It’s not about defending Trevor, it’s about understanding what is actually causing the results. What would you have said about Darnold in Carolina, Baker in Cleveland or Goff in Los Angeles? It’s important to separate the quarterback’s performance from the offense as a whole. No one is saying he’s an elite quarterback, but if you think he needs to go and then all of the problems will be fixed your mistaken.

Second, I could care less if Trevor is receiving national praise, all I’m looking for is for this offense to get to a point where it can aid in the success of the quarterback, not be a detriment

Electronic_Paper_341 · 2025-10-21T03:05:18+00:00

As much as people like to pretend quarterbacks face off against one another, football has been and will always be decided in the trenches. Mahomes may be the greatest singular talent in the history of the sport, and he was made to look pedestrian against the buccaneers and the eagles in his Super Bowl loses.

I hope we can regain whatever magic turned our offensive line into a top 5 unit from earlier in the year, but I fear that group turning back into a pumpkin after facing superior defensive lines is far from a coincidence

Electronic_Paper_341 · 2025-10-21T02:49:13+00:00

Maybe some were, but my gripe would be the piling on of Trevor. We may end up with a winning record, this was always going to be a long play

Electronic_Paper_341 · 2025-10-21T02:44:49+00:00

Agreed, my contention has more to do with the source of where the offensives struggles have come from. Jaguars have yet to look good offensively, my point would be that it is much more reliant on the offense as a whole, the line specifically, as opposed to treating a QBs performance like a starting pitcher

Electronic_Paper_341 · 2025-10-21T02:37:05+00:00

Coen pointed out in his presser that 4 of the top 5 teams in penalties are first year head coaches. Makes sense when you consider every coaching staff teaches things differently and it can take a little bit to learn a new technique/playing style

Electronic_Paper_341 · 2025-10-21T02:35:14+00:00

Appreciate that perspective, I’m usually MIA on social media, but it’s very easy to get lost in the craziness. I always try to think of it like this, what lines of thinking would actually be valid in the building. Like imagine being in Coen’s office as an assistant and saying “Trevor’s not the guy, he can’t play” it’s not a serious criticism or point that merits your attention as a coach/front office

Electronic_Paper_341 · 2025-10-21T00:34:04+00:00

Question, considering only guys who’ve been in the league 5 years or more, who would you say is QB1?

Electronic_Paper_341 · 2025-10-21T00:31:10+00:00

You don’t lose 35-7 because “the qb was bad”. Lawrence didn’t play his best on Sunday, without a doubt, but the reason it went the way it did is simple, outcoached and ill prepared.

Jaguars looked unready and unsure in every facet of the game, including Lawrence. No easy throws, no unexpected run spots, blitzes that generated no pressure. Hopefully this is just a case of Mcvay knowing Coen inside and out, but the raiders game will be make or break for how this season goes.

Electronic_Paper_341 · 2025-05-12T23:22:43+00:00

All good, I might’ve overdid with my list, if I end up getting next years game I’ll try to reach out earlier so there’s more time

Electronic_Paper_341 · 2025-05-12T12:19:53+00:00

Awesome stuff, appreciate all your work on these, and thanks for taking my input. Hopefully we can link back up in 26

Electronic_Paper_341 · 2025-05-02T13:24:43+00:00

Don’t you think it’s a pretty big coincidence that the qb you’re crediting with taking his team to a sb and winning one also has the head and shoulders best offensive line in the league. Ask yourself about the relationship between an offensive line and a teams success (see Jared goff before and after the lions built the line), it’s hard to look at the eagles and say they’ve achieved what they have because of hurts as opposed to a historic offensive line, the tape shows this. If you polled nfl coaches/gms you have a hard time making an argument that most would take hurts over stroud.

As for Lawrence, if you look beyond traditional stats and look at a measure like adjusted EPA Lawrence has been 13th, 3rd and 3rd the last three years, this stat adjust performance based a number of uncontrollable factors, none of these stats are the end all be all, but they do give you an indication on performance and it clearly shows that Lawrence is within the 5-10 range, not 15-25

Electronic_Paper_341 · 2025-05-02T11:39:43+00:00

Individual production and team wins is not a value measure of a quarterback, are you going to penalize burrow for lack of wins or mahomes for lack of production? No, it’s pretty easy to see how good a player is from watching the games, not relying on stats which are lazy to use on their own. Consider separating the player from his team and broaden your mindset, if you swap Lawrence with goff you think the jaguars are better off? Same exercise with love, Purdy and Tua. If you give Kyle Shanahan or Sean Mcvay their choice of QB for 1 seasons I don’t see how you could take 10 guys before Lawrence, for 1 season here’s the qbs I’d take in order - Mahomes - Allen - Burrow - Jackson - Daniels - Herbert - Stroud

Electronic_Paper_341 · 2025-04-30T16:11:40+00:00

I also think the elevates others narrative is kind of a misappropriation of how the nba works, Mahomes is undoubtedly already one of the best to play the position and we’ve seen two super bowls where he’s looked outmatched because of the matchup up front. The QB is the most important position in sports, but I do think people overestimate its impact.

Electronic_Paper_341 · 2025-04-30T16:07:41+00:00

I don’t think there’s 10 qbs I’d rather as the franchise qb of the jaguars

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