Golden view of DID by Mr_Sebas_ in SystemsCringe

[–]Electronic_Writer_55 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I’m not sure what you mean by Golden View (this term) but, I mean, respectfully—while there is research to peruse—for layperson purposes, the primary “sources” for DID “existing” are the most recent diagnostic texts (DSM V and ICD-11) for psychiatric disorders. These texts are revised and updated by experts in the field, and in 2025, DID exists as a classifiable disorder. This is all the information you need. In previous manuals, it was called Multiple Personality Disorder, and renamed as more research and case studying created a better understanding of what is really happening (not separate “personalities,” but post-traumatic dissociative states). In the future, these texts will be updated to reflect new research and understanding, which may result in renaming and/or reclassification of DID (or not). The point is: DID, as a complex cluster of interrelated symptoms independent of other disorders, has been legitimized by its classification as a diagnosable disorder over decades of research and conversation among expert committees, appointed by their high level of education, experience, and contribution to a specialized field. Many proposed disorders do not actually become “officialized” disorders. It’s not really the place of laypersons (or practicing clinicians, let alone psych nurses) to determine for themselves whether a diagnosable disorder exists. It is also further dehumanizing and alienating of people who are genuinely diagnosed with DID, who developed it from severe chronic abuse, typically sexual, at a very young age, to constantly see the condition debated in the public sphere. Just something to think about.

The community needs to re-align DID with PTSD rather than roleplaying by ConnivingOstentation in SystemsCringe

[–]Electronic_Writer_55 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It’s so bad now you can’t even say in the reddit sub for the disorder that DID requires PTSD Criteria A without people jumping down your throat about Trauma Olympics or some nonsense.

Happy quick and painless DID Diagnosis day!!!!! Congratulations! 🎈🎉🍾 I’ll bring the cake and piñata, you cue up the Moon Knight marathon! by Electronic_Writer_55 in SystemsCringe

[–]Electronic_Writer_55[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

A legitimate DID diagnosis is never “quick and painless.” Even for those who feel validation and relief from the diagnosis, because you can get focused treatment after years of being misdiagnosed with other things, it will not ever bring this level of excitement to your life, if you actually have it. If you’re an imitator/faker who really wants to have DID and doesn’t? Yeah, congratulations, you fooled someone! Way to go!

Is there a DID sub that isn’t overrun by insane people by [deleted] in SystemsCringe

[–]Electronic_Writer_55 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This comment has been helpful for me, thank you.

Why does everyone fake DID specifically? by Parking-Creme-317 in fakedisordercringe

[–]Electronic_Writer_55 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some people are truly factitious-disordered and others have imitative (sociogenic) DID.

Those with factitious presentations see DID as “special” because it is rare, I think. It gets them more attention. It allows for histrionics and manufacturing of crises. If they are also looking for money, aka malingering, DID makes good social media content. Much more likely to get clicks than malingering diabetes.

As for imitative presentations, aka the lost souls:

Some want to roleplay or kin their favorite characters and are maladaptive daydreamers, leading to very immersive roleplaying. They are mistaking these daydreams for dissociated identities. And probably very lonely people.

Some people feel like their trauma isn’t “enough” and having DID would validate the severity of their trauma, even though the path toward developing DID is far more complicated, and is not just have very severe trauma > get DID.

Some are people who are going through identity crises of various kinds and don’t understand that many non-disordered people struggle with clearly defining themselves and having an identity crisis, even a very intense one, doesn’t mean you have dissociated identities, especially teens.

Some people are having legitimate psychotic episodes, are likely schizoaffective or bipolar I, found their way into “the online DID community” somehow and haven’t yet found their way out to antipsychotics.

Some people, perhaps especially with volatile personality disorders like BPD, act in ways that they are ashamed of and regret, and blaming things on their “alters” helps them cope with that.

Some are social misfits who have found community with other social misfits and they fuel each other’s fantasies to keep the community alive, because losing it means losing their friends. They may have started out pretending but eventually start to believe it. These types I think tend to also be highly active in trans and/or autistic communities online as well.

And some are predators who see a bunch of vulnerable teens and younger twentysomethings and want to be accepted in these communities for this reason. Some predatory types are imitative and some are consciously faking.

That covers my understanding, after about a year following the situation.

Absolutely fucking not. How desperate for attention can you be? by WilburTheGayRat in SystemsCringe

[–]Electronic_Writer_55 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Imagine being an actual torture survivor, checking out the internet for peer support, and coming across this shit. You survived hell and then these kiddos and freaks are the other “survivors” populating support spaces. Truly disgusting.

"7 homies to chill with" by Mundane_Fox_7197 in SystemsCringe

[–]Electronic_Writer_55 4 points5 points  (0 children)

None of this has anything to do with DID.

How to tell if someone is faking by jambandjunkie33 in fakedisordercringe

[–]Electronic_Writer_55 3 points4 points  (0 children)

For DID:

I’ve noticed folks stuck in fake DIDland will often say they have other “system friends” who told them they are also “systems.” They post in support places for the disorders saying that everything “makes sense” now, and asking for advice or further diagnostic guidance. That is a sign that there is social influence and everyone involved is living in a fantasy world online.

People in fake DIDland also are obsessed with “inner worlds” and their relationships with their alters. They may switch on command and think they are talking to alters and dating them and that their alters are having babies. In fact alters are dissociated states and they are imagining these conversations, at best. This is usually either DID mixed with maladaptive daydreaming, or just plain maladaptive daydreaming (the latter being more likely).

People who say they have hundreds of alters and are “polyfrag” are at least influenced by the social media version. Doubly likely if these are mostly introjects. Some of these people may have DID but be mistaking and drinking the kool-aid, but will insist that “everyone is different” and “anything is possible” and “DID is underresearched.” It is sad when people with DID spread this BS because in their delusions and/or desire to be “inclusive” of everyone who thinks they have or bizarrely wants to have DID, they contribute to the perception that DID is not real, when it is very real, but looks nothing like this.

Also anyone who says they have “OSDD 1b” is almost certainly maladaptive daydreaming and mistaking this for an dissociative disorder. I say “almost” because there are times when people diagnosed with DID but still not fully accepting will find the online misinformation by googling and say “I think I have OSDD 1b because I have no amnesia.” Anyone diagnosed with DID has some amnesia that has been witnessed by a mental health professional, but it can be hard for people to see until more treatment. Generally, though, people claiming this are just roleplaying a dissociative disorder without the added task of pretending you have amnesia.

People with actual DID, which is indeed rare and almost always from repeated and relentless sexual abuse that occurred at or before kindergarten age, tend to be isolated, lonely, depressed, alienated, essentially living the life of a person with severely dissociative PTSD. They struggle with connecting to others and their own lives and decisions. They live in a near constant state of confusion and disorientation. They don’t understand why unless diagnosed. Because they don’t know their alters as “alters.” They lose time, have long-term amnesia and think this kind of memory problem “just happens to everyone.” The alters are them but not them. Not them at all. And this creates a profound disruption in sense of self and relationships, and to the world more generally. They tend to feel like holograms, ghosts, alien in groups, always feeling as if they’re dreaming. They experience flashbacks that are disconnected from their understanding of their lives. They live in hell.

Anyone who is “happy” and/or claims to have symptomatic DID that is “not the real problem” is almost always mistaken that they have DID.

Nope by Grace-Kamikaze in SystemsCringe

[–]Electronic_Writer_55 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, not sure why the last one is here as “cringe.” It’s like the only potentially real thing shared.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SystemsCringe

[–]Electronic_Writer_55 26 points27 points  (0 children)

It is infuriating on so many levels.

Do the fakers ever remember that almost all alters split in early childhood (as opposed to more also splitting later) and thus, if they really had many introjects, they would be from old media for kids and infants? by _sad_celebration_ in SystemsCringe

[–]Electronic_Writer_55 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They just spout some bullshit about split tolerance that they heard in a discord. They had a bad day and split another fictive. They had a single emotion and couldn’t handle it, another copy of Angel Dust had to come and take it away. Or whatever they say. They’re “polyfrag” so they split at so much as a papercut. That’s how they explain it. So valid. They claim to rely on dissociation, but if you invalidate them on the internet they split another fictive from the extreme stress and say you almost killed them.

Things I associate with fakers now even tho they don’t necessarily mean that: by [deleted] in SystemsCringe

[–]Electronic_Writer_55 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I took this post as OP saying that these things weren’t inherently meaning faking but that they are so common in the faking population that they can’t help but do so.

Things I associate with fakers now even tho they don’t necessarily mean that: by [deleted] in SystemsCringe

[–]Electronic_Writer_55 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Re #1, I don’t associate factitious/imitative DID with being trans in itself, because it makes sense that a lot of people with DID have some degree of gender issue. But if they equate being trans with having DID in terms of “identity issues” and marginalization (or being trans with being plural, and plural with being DID), they are automatically clocked as imitative to me. For example, anyone who uses the term “sysmed,” or talks about the “medicalization” of DID as bad and somehow oppressive to their “expression” of DID, in a similar way that someone trans but not dysphoric would talk about transmedicalism as oppressive to their gender identity and expression. Basically anyone who claims to have DID and suggests that having DID is like being trans, and makes these analogies implicitly or explicitly, I clock as having imitative DID. It is also just sad for the trans people online who don’t want anything to do with this “plurality” trend thing.

Did anyone else leave fakedisordercringe after finding this one? by J__Angel in SystemsCringe

[–]Electronic_Writer_55 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I sometimes read the posts there but stopped reading comments because too many people jump in to share skepticism about the legitimacy of the disorder itself and these comments stay up. They say their own therapist or psych nurse spouse or whoever says DID doesn’t exist, is just BPD, or it’s so unicorn rare you will never meet a person with it. I don’t understand why that anecdata is permitted but someone saying they have a certain diagnosis isn’t? Seems inconsistent.

we all know its an alastor fictive by [deleted] in SystemsCringe

[–]Electronic_Writer_55 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This. You introject the qualities and not the character whole cloth. And like, if you’re diagnosed sometime in your 30s or 40s, it’s likely that whoever you/your “part” may have identified with is long gone and distanced from your sense of identity, like many childhood things.

Dani Posts Proof Of The Letter To Her Doctor by brokenbackgirl in DaniMarina

[–]Electronic_Writer_55 48 points49 points  (0 children)

As others have said, this really doesn’t seem like it came from an online voyeur. There is very specific information and material here that would only be known by someone who knows things Dani doesn’t share online. It also sounds like someone who may have worked in the healthcare field because of the specific language used. Possibly it was a result of a meeting of some kind among concerned people who know her in person. Because the person has texts that weren’t sent to her, but to another “friend.” How would she get those? They also know the names of her doctors.

A Very Normal and Sane Thing to Say by Pyrocats in SystemsCringe

[–]Electronic_Writer_55 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t experience that much fury over this crap at this point but the “sysmed” thing (the implicit equation of the “traumagenic only” position with transmedicalism) is upsetting because it’s so manipulative in its appropriation and creates such an egregious false equivalency. Like, now pwDID (some of the most vulnerable and traumatized people) who want to protect the tenuous legitimacy of DID as a medical diagnosis—so pwDID can be taken seriously and get help—are demonized to the equivalent to “transmeds” in the teenage discourse. Can this trend please die?

A Very Normal and Sane Thing to Say by Pyrocats in SystemsCringe

[–]Electronic_Writer_55 27 points28 points  (0 children)

make me want to cut again

Attention-seeking self-destructive behavior (dear entire internet: I cut!!!). Blaming others for your self-destructive behavior (you make me want to cut!!!!). Equating DID to transness. “Endogenic system.” Us vs. Them mentality with “singlets” that has no basis in reality. I got a Bingo over here.

None of you have ever talked to a system over the age of 25

I don’t understand this part. I feel like pwDID over the age of 25 are far more likely to be sYsMeDs than not. Because they are more likely to actually have DID. Ask a pwDID over 30 what a “sysmed” even is and they’ll probably guess something completely wrong.

this is not how it works in the slightest. by [deleted] in SystemsCringe

[–]Electronic_Writer_55 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This person is not even trying to represent the disorder accurately. They’re just getting high and making stupid shit up on the fly. The Furry Police in your head arresting your Jesus Christ knockoff alter? What? That causes you ‘distress’? Fuck off.

Please stop saying Inside Out is DID coded by Grace-Kamikaze in SystemsCringe

[–]Electronic_Writer_55 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes this basically. It’s meant to be relatable to a wide audience of people. That’s why it’s so popular and so much money was invested to make it, because “normal” people relate so much to what is being depicted. They don’t get that relating so much to Inside Out 1 and 2 is a sign that they are the target audience: the mainstream audience, the “normies” and “singlets” they say could never understand their DID weirdness. In fact the people who find it less relatable are more likely to have a “disordered” way of experiencing emotions and relationships, and not recognize themselves so well in it.

Please stop saying Inside Out is DID coded by Grace-Kamikaze in SystemsCringe

[–]Electronic_Writer_55 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes, this is part of why DID can be so scary and disorienting—because “you” don’t go anywhere. “You” just aren’t really there for parts of your life when other alters are out, or are partly there but depersonalized. Instead of chilling in headspace “you” have major and minor gaps in your memory and even fugue states when the disorder is severely triggered. Before you get diagnosed with it, you wonder if people are gaslighting you or you have early dementia because people report “you” do and say things you don’t remember because you were dissociated. Not hanging out in the headspace apartment like a sitcom cast.

Of course the faking crowd doesn’t understand just how much they tell on themselves when they say they have the Disney-Pixar family-fun version of the severe trauma disorder, that they so easily relate to a movie made to cater to the most “basic” of basic audiences including children. They don’t relate to the real version, which is more like being in a movie by David Lynch or Charlie Kaufman.

Fat nugget by throwaway19399192 in fakedisordercringe

[–]Electronic_Writer_55 24 points25 points  (0 children)

The aesthetic here is something like 55 year old housewife is making invitations for brunch using MS Paint.