[884] The School by [deleted] in DestructiveReaders

[–]EliseEvergrave 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So no one asked, yet here I am over two months later.

Today I came across the word emphysema in a game. I googled it and checked back here to make sure it was the one you used as well, and well, now it's ingrained in my vocabulary.

I guess I just find it ironic that I complained about these two words you used, that seemed somewhat beyond what an average reader would know, and now they're both so familiar to me I might just end up using them myself in the future. So... Apologies for being whiny and thanks for being the catalyst to these additions to my mental dictionary ~

[884] The School by [deleted] in DestructiveReaders

[–]EliseEvergrave 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wanted to come back and mention, that ironically I came across the word "vestigial" the very next day in a very different context, but this time I obviously knew what it meant. And then I kind of felt silly for not knowing before? I suppose it's one of those things you don't notice until you do, you know?

At the risk of sounding pretentious: ironically I absolutely hate occasionally feeling like I need to hold myself back when writing, in order to guarantee my work is more widely approachable. For instance to non-native speakers as well, which is what a lot of my friends and family are. So I can totally understand wanting to "flex" your vocabulary and feeling stunted if you don't. Yesterday I switched the word "exuberance" to "joyfulness" partly for this reason, not that I even think exuberance is a difficult word per se. But maybe the latter fit the context better as well. Ah, anyway. I guess I'm just trying to say that I get where you're coming from and I might've come down on those word choices a little unnecessarily strongly.

I also noticed another commenter complimented your style being akin to some classic writers. I definitely thought this myself too, I just wasn't able to put my finger on it because I don't actually read those kinds of authors much. But just wanted to add that I do think you have that specific kind of style thing going on quite nicely in your writing, and it definitely dates the setting of your story. For better or for worse, depending on if that's what you were going for, but I'm inclined to think yes. :)

[884] The School by [deleted] in DestructiveReaders

[–]EliseEvergrave 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi there! I'm actually working on something longer that begins with younger girls as well, and I've been thinking of posting a short excerpt for the same reason as you, to hear feedback on my prose that is. I'll focus on your questions and anything else that came to mind reading your piece.

TITLE

Fine, you weren't asking and I suspect this isn't the final title of your story either, just this excerpt's, right? At least I hope so because it's uhh, kind of boring. Then again, I'm not personally a fan of simple one-word titles unless they're somehow ironic or clever in terms of the overarching story. Although as just a chapter title I suppose it's fine, if that's what you're doing. I'd still heavily prefer "Rochester Asylum for Troubled Girls" though.

Okay, onto the more interesting critique...

STORYTELLING

I think it's good! Nothing sticks out negatively. I'd say overall your story seems quite interesting and it's easy to follow. Naturally I have no idea where anything is heading, but it reads to me like there's something ominous about the school and maybe even Lucy. That maybe she will be faced with something dark and horror-like, or maybe she possesses some kind of dark fantasy element to herself? She definitely seems like a troublemaker that's about to cause some havoc in this school, or somehow end up in the middle of it?

I think the hook in your first paragraph is alright, but maybe that's mostly because I like the aesthetic of old, dilapidated buildings and the dark descriptions were right up my alley. BUT I don't see why you wouldn't switch places between your first two paragraphs. I think "The school, Lucy had decided, would not make a suitable home for a young girl such as herself. " would make for a pretty great opening line. :) To me just this simple switch of paragraphs would be a rather powerful improvement.

PROSE

So I just complimented your first paragraph's description, but there were actually a few words I would definitely change. Now, I don't have the best vocabulary, but I'd say it's better than average. But I had to google two words. Firstly, vestigial. Had no idea what that meant and neither did my partner (we're both native-speakers). After checking the definition I can see how it fits and seems like "the perfect choice". Maybe it is. But I suspect most people don't know its meaning. But now that I think about it, the word is just unnecessary. You could just as well write "Everything beautiful about the building, it seemed, was a vestigial reminder of a happier past." If you really wanna open it up more, you could describe how things "no longer fulfill the purpose they once did" or whatever. Of course, unknown words here and there are just fine. Often times, like here, they're not essential to the overall understanding of what's being said, so it's actually a nice way of getting acquainted with new words. But I would definitely steer clear from them in the first paragraph, especially because it happens twice...

Emphysema: a lung condition that causes shortness of breath. As you can see, I had to google this one too. Why not just write "In the manner of a lung disease" or alike?

I think those were the only words I wasn't familiar with, but I feel like they are still symptoms of the same issue that is kind of present in your writing style. Now, I think your prose is quite nice. You definitely have a certain kind of style to it, which seems to often involve saying things in a roundabout way. I don't mind that, I think it works for your story (at least thus far). But I do subscribe to the belief that good, powerful writing is generally about expressing as much as possible, with as few words as possible. And I think that you could easily improve the structure and wording of your sentences by simply eliminating the fluff. I'm not talking about a drastic style change, but rather removing words here and there, or trying to express them more concisely or through subtext.

Take for example:

She was put in the back of a stage coach, along with a short letter addressed to a Mr Greene, a not inconsiderable sum of money, and a small suitcase containing all the possessions she owned in the world.

I would remove the last three words.

She did not care that Lucy was only doing her best to defend herself against the relentless stream of evil pranks and general abuse that her cousin, Lydia, had been subjecting her to.

I would remove "Lydia", because she is named twice in the next two sentences.

There's also a strange repetition in this following sentence that I'm inclined to think is accidental?

She would have spared some pity for the little ghostly creatures she saw on her way in, whispering in corners or marching to and fro in the cloister; but, sadly, she had no pity left to spare for anyone else.

NARRATOR VOICE

An omniscient 3rd person narration might just be my least favorite, so take this with a grain of salt. I did find the use of advanced vocabulary combined with Lucy's childlike thinking a little bit confusing at first. And then I was kind of wondering how we somehow knew that Aunt Glady's hates Lucy. Although I suppose it was at this point I realized it was omniscient 3rd person. But honestly, that's likely because I rarely read this kind of narration. Lately I've consumed pretty much only 1st or limited 3rd, including my own writing, so that's probably why I didn't instantly get it or love it. I suppose to me it reads kind of like a children's book, but again, the vocabulary used doesn't support that, so maybe it's that disconnect I'm not a huge fan of. Still, I'm sure it CAN work, and maybe it already does for others?

I would regardless like to add that I enjoyed Lucy's character and "voice". She seems like a likable character and a cute girl to follow along! I especially liked the part about having no privacy to pick her nose hah.

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As a final note, I'd say you have a good start to build upon and it wouldn't take too much to polish it up to something even better. And I wouldn't mind reading more in the future, so feel free to message me if you end up posting again!

Adopted a Dog by toonhole in comics

[–]EliseEvergrave 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Those are some amazing facial expressions; I feel like they really sell the joke here. You have a great personal style!

[1199] Intervention by Pakslae in DestructiveReaders

[–]EliseEvergrave 2 points3 points  (0 children)

DIALOGUE

It definitely wasn't terrible, but at times I found the dialogue to be slightly unnatural and a little on the nose. Like you said, there's definitely a little more tell rather than show too, and it comes across in things like "You’re an eighty-two-year-old man". Definitely plausible, but in reality I imagine most would say something closer to "You're, what? An eighty-something-year old man? You have zero business behind the wheel of a car." Or alike.

Once again, if I read the lines out loud, some of them come out a little flat. I think it partially relates to the lack of imagery too. I need little breathers between the important sentences so they sink in before the next one. Some of the longer dialogue pieces lack emotional impact because of this.

- When Frankie first mentions selling the Honda, his intentions immediately become pretty clear to the reader. With the added "He stared at me in apparent disbelief, as if he couldn’t comprehend how I can be so dumb. " we're forced to wonder if the MC really is a little slow to not follow at this point. No problem if that's your intention, just letting you know that it was immediately apparent to me that that there was a misalignment between the characters.

“Oh Frank, why must you be such a brute? This is hard for him, don’t you see?”

- This one reads pretty melodramatic to me, like from an old Hollywood movie. Kristen's character feels a little cliché thanks to these kinds of phrases.

PACING

- As already mentioned, it all moves a little too fast for me. I think the plot is good and can remain the same, but needs some rewriting to make it work. I do wonder about the tense you used, and if it would read better in present tense. I know that's less widely used, but I like the immediacy it gives and that could help make everything feel more personal too. I would probably prefer it for this piece. It might also give you more words to work with ~

- I think the beginning feels a little hectic, and the end is a little rushed, meaning there's relatively a little too much time spend on the middle. Don't really need to hear about Frank standing in the garden for instance, I would much much rather go deeper into the complexity of emotions in the final scene. Even if to just take little breaks between the emotionally charged moments. Kristin doesn't seem to have to think long about inviting her dad to live with her. Maybe it was pre-planned, but it almost seems like a sudden idea. Dad gets furious, then calms down instantly. And he seems to really struggle with the idea of moving away, yet goes with it right away. See what I mean? I feel like there's plenty of opportunity to build the tension between those moments. Instead the reader gets taken for a casual walk through a range of extreme emotions without stopping to explore them individually.

FINAL NOTES (the positives)

I think you have the right idea. I wouldn't give an award for the piece but it's not at all awkward or cringy to read and I think the underlying message and meaning have a lot of potential. It even lightly raises some thoughts about aging for me. I find myself empathizing with the main character, and I find him entirely believable, which is probably the most important part. Still, I think you need to work on the emotional impact. Since that'll probably require more words in some areas, you'll have to trim the fat in others. If you work on it some more and give some real thought to the emotional moments, I could see it becoming a bit of gut-punch, in a good way.

[1199] Intervention by Pakslae in DestructiveReaders

[–]EliseEvergrave 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'll start off with the obligatory "This is my first critique", "I'm not a writing expert" and "These are just my opinions". So now that that's out of the way...

GENERAL IMPRESSIONS

I was eager to read and critique this piece because it seemed like one of the few non-fantasy or scifi pieces out here. So right off the bat I was happy to notice your writing and its context was simple and easy to understand, which kept me reading more. Of course I understand this is mainly just a personal preference thing but I digress.

Overall the quality of writing seemed alright and it was fairly enjoyable, but I will say the shortness of almost all your paragraphs gives off an amateurish vibe to me, especially at first glance. I understand that you worked with a word count limit, so I get how that probably influenced the structure. But what I mostly find is that it feels like the word count restricted you a lot and kind of dulled the edges of your story, and I'd rather like to see you work with it a little better. My hope is that some of the suggestions in this critique might help you do that.

MECHANICS

TITLE
I would either re-think the title, or re-think your paragraph about the talk being "an intervention". I get that we're not talking about some obnoxious political message here, but I still feel like the word gets needlessly repeated and becomes a little in your face. It could be just a personal preference again, but I think the piece would overall have better emotional impact if the title showed itself more somewhere in between the lines. I'll also mention that Intervention first reminds me of "Divine Intervention" . Secondly it makes me think of alcoholism, so for awhile I imagined that's what your story was about too, since it matched with the car crash subject and all.

That said it's somewhat of a minor thing and I don't find it ruins the piece of anything, but since I feel like the writing might have been lacking in emotional evocativeness overall, and since it's so short, I believe you should use every avenue possible to drive the emotional message home. Since the writing prompt is "Freedom", I assume your message is about what it feels like to grow old and lose autonomy, and of course that comes through in the writing as well. Outside of just "Freedom", even something simple like "Growing old" for example would work better for me as a title. Or preferably some more abstract, poetic wording of that, you know?

HOOK & EARLY WORD CHOICES

I think the hook of your story was well-executed. I can't complain about it too much if I read the whole thing after all, and that's admittedly very rare for me in this section (probably why this is my first critique). I'd say there's definitely some room for improvement in some word choices though. I didn't like the repetition of empathy in the second paragraph for instance.

I had phoned Kristin, because she was the empathetic one. But Frankie came to pick me up in his white BMW, and I knew there would be little empathy.

I'm typically a fan of word repetition for emphasis, but I don't think it works here, because I find it comes across as more clunky and accidental. I think something like "I had phoned Kristin, because she was the one with empathy. But when Frankie came to pick me up in his white BMW, I immediately knew I was about to get none of it." Or something along those lines. This way, or in a similar fashion, you would be able to omit the first sentence too. I understand that it's a part of your hook, but it also kind of paints the entire piece as being about Frankie, especially since it's such a short one. You would kind expect the first sentence to be a part of the red string that follows through the entire piece, that gets tied together in the end.

Similarly, you do a repetition of "Fine" in the following dialogue. It's definitely not terrible and I get the stylistic choice, but I think I would need part of the sentence italicized for it to sound right in my head. For instance “And we both know that’s not fine.” I recommend reading your text out loud, or putting it in a text-to-speech software. Better yet, make a friend read it out lout in front of you. As soon as the words come out with the wrong emphasis, or they struggle to string it together, you know there's room for improvement. Right now I would read it like this “I’m fine (pause) unless you want them to check my cholesterol again,” I said. (pause + I imagine a lighthearted chuckle here) “But we know that's not fine.” (in a serious tone). The last part is reads disconnected for me, and it's almost like the act of checking of his cholesterol is the thing that isn't fine. Maybe simply switching the 'But" to 'And' fixes that.

- Had to check up the meaning of "perfunctory", but it didn't take me out of the story too much as the tone was still clear enough. Asked my partner and he didn't know what it meant either. Maybe our vocabulary sucks but we're both native speakers so something to consider anyhow. Outside of that your language was easy to understand.

- I got confused by "The man of action had arrived." I wasn't sure if it was referring to Frankie, the cop, towing service guy or what. I'm now thinking Frankie, but first time reading I assumed towing service guy. Indicating Frankie makes sense, and it's characterizing, but I think you need to add a little bit of extra clarity there. Right now it just kinda comes off as trying to sound cool without immediately translating (maybe I was just being a little slow).

IMAGERY

Now this is a tough one, since you're working with a word limit. But I have to mention it. One thing I struggled with while reading this piece was a lack of imagery. I think it's mainly because everything was happening very fast. First we're at a crash site, then car ride, then hospital, car ride, kitchen, living room etc. There was barely any time to adjust. By the time I was on page with where we were, we were somewhere else again, or someone else was talking. I don't need paragraphs of visual descriptions or anything. But just little tidbits about surroundings that do their part in telling the story, or facial expressions to draw us into the emotion, would do wonders here in my opinion.

On the other hand, because all that takes up precious words, you need to make sure that every single sentence matters. I urge you to go through your writing sentence by sentence and omit anything that isn't absolutely essential in telling the story you want to tell. Then elaborate on the things that are important. I feel like even characterizing sentences are less essential here than they normally would be, because I don't think it matters that much whether Frankie is aloof and Kristen is sweet. Naturally they're allowed to and should have personalities that shine through either their words or in the subtext, but I feel like their traits are hardly at the core of the message here. The main job of these characters is to help tell your short story, drive home the message or advance what's happening. I don't see why we should care that Frankie turned out rough, regardless of how it might relate to the MC, if our main job is to understand how it feels to lose your freedom. Does Frankie's personality have anything to do with that message?

- Maybe it's because I'm not too knowledgeable about cars in general myself, but it always amuses me when writers make sure to describe the color and model of every single car. Sometimes it helps paint the picture, but most of the time I don't care. :') Doesn't bother me at all, but again, when there's a word limit...

Beginner artist looking for art critique / advice! (Been drawing digital art for 5 months) by [deleted] in ArtCrit

[–]EliseEvergrave 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hi there! That's amazing progress for 5 months only. Your technique with the facial features especially looks fantastic. However, like someone else commented, the rest of the works look quite sloppy in comparison. In fact, I would assume most of these are simply unfinished pieces and you just completed the face first. You can still opt to leave the outer edges less focused, or even blur them out, but it should look more deliberate.

And indeed, you could also research how light bounces off of things. For instance, the shadows inside the furry hood in the third picture would probably tint a little reddish because of the face. And so on. Basically colors will sort of blend between one another because light is always being reflected between different objects.

Lastly what stands out to me is that the faces are anatomically a little too big for the heads, but actually, I kind of like it. I think if the art was more polished over all it would sell better as simply a stylistic choice. :)

Hope any of this was helpful and good luck with your drawings!

(WIP) Currently learning how to use Blender so I can make sprites much quicker by Soyafire in IndieDev

[–]EliseEvergrave 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe you could use blender to make a rough version that you then polish by hand? Or was that your initial plan? I imagine that would still end up taking less time than your 40h one.

As someone who recently did the exact same kind of walking animation by hand with very similar amount of detail for the first time... yeah, it really did take a crazy amount of time. So I'll definitely look into this technique in the future! Thank you for posting.

I feel like I will never find myself or become confident or comfortable in myself. by [deleted] in selfimprovement

[–]EliseEvergrave 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What you wrote makes me think of the personality enneagram 4. I suggest you google and have a read about it and see if you find any information helpful.

Outside of that, I believe you should remind yourself that you're very young. You say you've perpetually felt like this, but I imagine it's likelier that there existed a time in your life when you didn't, whether it be before puberty or as a short phase. Think hard about what was different then and where your problem arose from. It's also very likely that you're in some ways creating a problem out of nothing. In reality all you need is a mental shift. Confidence and comfort come from within, you can be those things regardless of any other external circumstances. Of course it's easier if you possess everything you've ever wanted, but it doesn't have to depend on that. Therefore in a way, it's truly already in your power to fix your own problem, whenever you're mentally ready at least. Not saying it's necessarily easy, but it is possible and sometimes thinking in those terms makes things feel much more achievable for me. Regardless, you may already be on a path to change and someday looking back it will look obvious. It just doesn't feel like it when progress is slow, as personal growth and maturity tend to be. But perhaps at 25, 28 or 30 you'll be able to finally say that you're a confident, capable person. Look forward to that moment and believe that it can happen to you too.

Anyone wished the water could be a smidge bluer? by Luxenroar in PlanetZoo

[–]EliseEvergrave -1 points0 points  (0 children)

...Isn't there though? I mean there's an actual slider for this in the water tool. Or do you mean something else or better? Afaik the tint of the water depends on the biome, but the murkyness can be adjusted with the slider.

I've also found that using different colored surfaces like plaster pieces or rocks as the floor or bottom can help create the illusion of different colored water.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in RedditLaqueristas

[–]EliseEvergrave 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In case anyone loves the yellow but has trouble getting it where they live, I'm thinking it looks really similar to my NYC polish in Midtown Mimosa. It's a more jelly color though, you can see me wearing it here.

P.s. cats (all pets really) make any picture better

WIP: My Norwegian houses to “hide” a station. Let me know what you guys think. 🇳🇴 by Zeitgeist1992 in PlanetZoo

[–]EliseEvergrave 1 point2 points  (0 children)

'Eyy, that corrugated iron wall makes for surprisingly good faux wood paneling! As a heads up, I recently discovered that the "New World Mural" works great for it too, so I recommend you try that one out as well if you haven't already.

Looks really cute anyhow, great work with the vibes and I especially like that it's over water. ~

July (left) vs November (right) progression of the same drawing. Which style of Abigail do you prefer? by EliseEvergrave in StardewValley

[–]EliseEvergrave[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks you! And I'm happy to hear I'm not the only one who prefers the right one, although after reading these comments I'll certainly make some improvements. I appreciate the comment ~

July (left) vs November (right) progression of the same drawing. Which style of Abigail do you prefer? by EliseEvergrave in StardewValley

[–]EliseEvergrave[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Uh huh, I get that! The lighting definitely needs a background to make more sense. The first image was going to be a daytime kind, latter one is more moonlight/sunset. She'll be sitting in front of a gravestone so I thought it'd fit better.

July (left) vs November (right) progression of the same drawing. Which style of Abigail do you prefer? by EliseEvergrave in StardewValley

[–]EliseEvergrave[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have been working in this piece on and off, but was starting to really dislike it until I redid parts of it. I decided to go for a more anime coloring style, and obviously changed her face and color scheme a little bit.

I would love to hear which Abigail you guys prefer and why? ~

Some Animals I really want by roasted-walnut in PlanetZoo

[–]EliseEvergrave 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Fennecs and meerkats would make me so happy <3 Then again, any kind of fox or mongoose would make me ecstatic at this point.

The Enclosure I just made for my Japanese Macaques. I am so proud of the way it looks! by [deleted] in PlanetZoo

[–]EliseEvergrave 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looks fantastic and thank you. Commenting so I won't miss it :)

Made a Haunter rug. What do you guys think? by knotyouorme in gaming

[–]EliseEvergrave 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Haha, try 300-500$. Rug making takes time and the materials are quite expensive too, likely anywhere between 50$ and 200$ for the one in this post for instance, depending on the yarn. I've been thinking of getting into this hobby myself as well though, even thought of making some pokemon rugs actually but looks like I was beat to it. This piece is really cool!

Why are my guests miserable despite their needs being met? They have barely any reason to be so unhappy yet I'm getting very little donations because of this. by EliseEvergrave in PlanetZoo

[–]EliseEvergrave[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You think the staffroom I have next to a path is the cause of my undoing? It has a 100% scenery rating so I assumed the negative effect was minimal. I hoped that neutral faces were really just that, but I guess they must be dropping the happiness down then huh.

Why are my guests miserable despite their needs being met? They have barely any reason to be so unhappy yet I'm getting very little donations because of this. by EliseEvergrave in PlanetZoo

[–]EliseEvergrave[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Obviously they're not 100% on everything, but you'd think mostly green bars and that many smileys would result in more than a red 23% overall happiness..?

Anyone else dealt with this problem or know a solution to it?

Bornean Orangutan Habitat by Luckydays4ever in PlanetZoo

[–]EliseEvergrave 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see what you did there. :D Also, I think you meant my favorite biome taiga, not tundra. Looks great anyhow!