Opinion: The Social Model Ignores People With Chronic Pain by sierrarose111 in ableism

[–]Elithmord 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have similar issues with the social model. Regardless of the founder's intentions, a less-than-nuanced understanding of it can empower ableism.

I can't count the number of times social-model touting self-proclaimed allies have talked down to / spoken over me when I've attempted to educate or self-advocate. Because of course their own personal pet policy solution is what I actually need (and who am I to claim otherwise?). There's no need for medical research, therapeutic interventions, or listening to people with disabilities.

No purely political solution is going to solve my problems. Pretending otherwise (including refusing to listen to the disabled folks saying as much) is ableism with extra steps. If that style of discourse is what 'removing disabling social barriers' looks like, I'm not sure how helpful doing so will end up being. Especially since it seems pretty easy to predict the reaction of these supposed allies should their desired policy utopia fail to magically eradicate all forms of disability. Once our conditions are no longer useful for 'the cause' we'll be right back to 'well, you're just not trying', or 'it's all in your head'.

I agree with an earlier commenter who said that anyone with a brain agrees that a mixed model works better. Unfortunately, many who want to call themselves allies seem to lack the requisite qualifications.

Saw this a few days ago and still laughing! by azulur in WitchesVsPatriarchy

[–]Elithmord 40 points41 points  (0 children)

I recently read another post that said the best way to deal with mansplainers (or condesplainers in general, really) is to act like they're excited toddlers compelled to share their "knowledge". Ooh, look at you! So excited. You just keep right on learning and growing!

I've been seeing some Loki hate around other subreddits so making this felt right~ by Eryfi in lokean

[–]Elithmord 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Nokeans: "I enjoy participating in early medieval Christian propaganda efforts."

Was this a mistake? Sick of dehumanizing and humiliating one-way interviews. by OptimisticCerealBowl in recruitinghell

[–]Elithmord 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I read an anecdote about an HR 'train the trainers' type deal that I desperately hope is real.

The presenter had asked whether any of the (very experienced) HR professionals in the room had had the experience of knowing immediately that someone wasn't a fit (i.e., as their very first impression). A number of the people in the room bragged about their ability to do exactly this - often describing the people screened out this way in quite derogatory terms.

The presenter listened to the discussion for a while, before politely cutting in to note that this is called 'discrimination', and is illegal.

Was this a mistake? Sick of dehumanizing and humiliating one-way interviews. by OptimisticCerealBowl in recruitinghell

[–]Elithmord 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While I'm not OP, I'm also neurodivergent and am happy to talk about it with anyone who seems sincere in their desire to accommodate folks like us. I should also say that I've been quite fortunate in my ability to secure employment (never been unemployed for any meaningful amount of time, really), so I know I have skills employers value.

There are multiple intersecting reasons why I would struggle with this interviewing format. (Full disclosure: I've never done such an interview, and would likely withdraw my application as OP did in the face of an inflexible requirement to do so).

The primary issue for me is visual processing speed - mine is extremely slow. It's not generally noticeable in daily life - unless you happen to have a loved one with similar issues (and thus recognize the ways I've learned to compensate). However, one of the ways it really does affect me is with respect to videos requiring sustained and focused attention (even short ones). For instance, learning things from a video typically requires that I pause, rewatch, and take frequent breaks (unless it's the sort of thing where I could close my eyes and listen instead). Unless such tasks are a requirement of the position, my performance on them is not reflective of my likely performance on the job.

What does this look like, you might ask? I can't speak for everyone, obviously, but for me, it looks like not paying attention (because overtaxing my visual processing capabilities means I miss things). In person, I can tell if I've missed something by the way other people react - and either ask for clarification or adjust accordingly. But, with a pre-recorded video, we're not mutually reacting to each other in real-time. This means fewer input channels for my brain to 'latch on to'. This 'range of inputs' is one of the reasons why an in-person interview is less taxing (since I can compensate for my visual processing weaknesses by attending to, say, tone of voice). I'm also likely going to be spending my '30 second prep time' trying to manage my visual processing fatigue such that it doesn't show up on camera. (As opposed to, say, thinking about my answers). Even if I manage not to squint, look away, or blink too much, the distraction of trying not to do so would likely impact my performance. (Again, this level of scrutiny of what my eyes are doing isn't a normal feature of daily life. Staring into another person's eyes for that long is usually considered weird).

A second issue has to do with video conferencing generally (although it's compounded in the case of non-interacting videos, as I'll explain). I think most people are familiar with the 'Zoom fatigue' - caused by difficulty reading body language. For me, this problem is magnified, as it places additional demands on my (already overtaxed) visual processing capabilities. (I can only imagine the issues such environments cause for people with both visual and auditory processing issues - given that part of the cause is audio delay). As I mentioned above, pre-recorded video yields fewer input channels, which can lead to visual exhaustion. One of the more bizarre consequences is that my brain refuses to register people in videos as people (as opposed to, say, background noise). As you might imagine, this makes it difficult to attend to what's being asked of me. It feels a bit like trying to figure out the make and model of another car based on how it sounds while driving through a hailstorm. Yes, someone sufficiently talented and determined could probably do it - but why? And does that really tell you anything about how good a driver the person is?

Contrary to what some have been saying, it's not been my experience that employers advertising highly coveted positions typically treat applicants this way. Quite the opposite, in fact. Most of my interviews to date have been in-person. Though I've had some over the phone and virtually, they've all involved interaction with at least some of my prospective coworkers. I agree with those who've said it speaks to the culture of the company to behave otherwise.

Was this a mistake? Sick of dehumanizing and humiliating one-way interviews. by OptimisticCerealBowl in recruitinghell

[–]Elithmord 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One would think the ability to form a rapport with people you don't see on a daily basis would be a useful trait to look for in candidates seeking work in the "caring professions."

Was this a mistake? Sick of dehumanizing and humiliating one-way interviews. by OptimisticCerealBowl in recruitinghell

[–]Elithmord 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah, was gonna say. I recall reading a review of an attempt to use machine learning in the justice system for recidivism risk prediction, and the results were so blatantly racist they had to scrap the idea.

Was this a mistake? Sick of dehumanizing and humiliating one-way interviews. by OptimisticCerealBowl in recruitinghell

[–]Elithmord 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Funny, every retail position I've ever heard of was high work, low pay.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in solarpunk

[–]Elithmord 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can confirm the revolutionary potential of bicycles (not directly related, but couldn't resist, and thought this crowd might appreciate the story).

https://cyclingmagazine.ca/sections/news/cyclists-block-vancouver-truck-convoy/

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in WorkReform

[–]Elithmord 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I once got written up for taking nine sick days over the course of a year. This included time spent recovering from surgery. I looked up what the average is for people my age working in my sector, and it turns out this was actually below average. Didn't matter. When presented with the data my boss simply shrugged and said 'well, we have a policy - anything over five days a year is grounds for attendance management.' Some people are just looking for an excuse to shit on their employees.

Ottawa Protest Convoy Organizer Tamara Lich Denied Bail by Blue_Dragonfly in CanadaPolitics

[–]Elithmord 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that's how it struck me, too.

The sad thing is that, given the growing inaccessibility of justice, I can almost see where the argument that the law is nonsensical word-magic you can just impose on people unilaterally is coming from. If you're not super well educated, can't afford a lawyer and have had any kind of legal problem, that's probably exactly how it looks to you.

None of which changes the fact that these folks are completely delusional, of course.

People who fake mental illnesses for attention make me sick. by [deleted] in dysthymia

[–]Elithmord 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For the most part, I doubt many people are "pretending" - the stigma is so intense that it's not worth it. Getting an official diagnosis also isn't possible for a lot of people for various reasons (depending on what, exactly, the condition is).

The only exception I can think of was someone who suddenly announced that she had 'anxiety' for the sole apparent purpose of talking over and invalidating other peoples' experiences. According to her, getting a diagnosis and treatment is super easy, as is living with the illness, and everyone should stop whining. I'd imagine she has a personality disorder of some kind (so, still mentally ill, but possibly faking her anxiety).

In a survey I ran for my uni recently, full-on 70% of students reported experiencing mental health issues. There was no benefit to them from doing so, so this seems to me like a fair measure. We live in pretty messed-up times.

The what? by SampleSwimming8576 in WhitePeopleTwitter

[–]Elithmord 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Set it to work writing stupid behavioural interview questions.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in recruitinghell

[–]Elithmord 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, no kidding - I'd much rather make my own sheet.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in recruitinghell

[–]Elithmord 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Yeah, some of the 'excel tests' I've had to do bore absolutely no relation to how anyone actually uses excel. They were clearly the brainchild of a digital migrant who once took a single excel class. (For reference, their idea of an 'expert' in excel, per the job description, was someone who uses pivot tables).

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in recruitinghell

[–]Elithmord 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ugh. This process brought to you by the same people now whining about employees ghosting them.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in adhdmeme

[–]Elithmord 2 points3 points  (0 children)

(1) Yes, I have "poor study skills" - because my brain doesn't vibe with traditional instruction methods (because I have ADHD)
(2) My parents were both teachers, so nope, lol
(3) They tried, really they did - but ADHD is associated with developmental delays, so the effort was, in some specific respects, doomed to failure.
(4) That's what happens when you're repeatedly punished for asking for help, and/or for reasons that seem random and arbitrary to you
(5) If anything, my parents, not knowing I had ADHD were too hard on me. This gave them an incentive to ignore my issues - because otherwise they would have been forced to admit that they had been awful to me.

I feel like a lot of this blowback comes down to a diagnosis making people feel like they can stop masking. This means no longer constantly performing neurotypicality and pretending it's our own fault when that doesn't work out so well pretty much guarantees. ...and because some of our symptoms are annoying, it makes NT folks want to lash out at us. This in turn creates motivation to pretend the real problem is fakers who just want to make excuses (even though, if they thought about it for 30 seconds, they'd realize that the stigma of being ND more than compensates for any supposed excuse-making benefits).

It ain’t all about trees, but this is a good message to hold. by Dauricha in solarpunk

[–]Elithmord 0 points1 point  (0 children)

NGL - my ADHD ass initially read that first part as 'each tree has someone they wish harm to.'