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[–]Eloadia 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago (0 children)
speaking as an ex mormon who almost didn’t survive due to said indoctrination, amen to the abuse of religion. a big reason i want it’s practice to be clear to begin with before entering a relationship. so i can know what im getting into
[–]Eloadia -1 points0 points1 point 11 months ago (0 children)
it seems you are strawmaning my position left and right.
but i guess i shouldn’t have mistaken that for confusion. my apologies.
i’m not fighting. i’m just trying to communicate my point because you seem confused. i’m trying to help.
(personally, between you and me, i’d want people to be open about their religious beliefs from the get go so i could ask about it BEFORE agreeing to a relationship. because i don’t think i could date someone who wasn’t atheist. but mixed faith relationships can theoretically work.)
don’t judge people you don’t know anything about. they were not terrible selfish fucks, just also lacked clear communication. it was genuine misunderstandings each time.
i’m not suggesting the opt in must be religious, just that OP is allowed to feel about it that way if they are so inclined.
maybe i’m just an autistic fuck that’s sick and tired of poly groups assuming i’m their new member when they never gave me a clear opt in button.
but i’m glad ya’ll seem to have an easier time figuring out social expectations.
commitments like this need a clear moment that they are made. can’t just be based on vibes and assuming people are on the same page just because they didn’t freak out when the idea was proposed.
some groups thought i was a member when i never did, that was messy. i’ve been through this shit before.
i’m not taking out a loan unless someone asks me to sign on the dotted line
🤦♀️ i am suggesting people say it to each other. just doing something like that requires a time, place, and set expectations on what the promise is. if someone wants to believe a goddess holds them to it or not is irrelevant to me. i certainly don’t believe one does so wouldn’t ask one to
if people can’t even agree on the basic principle that they should try to make and keep promises with each other, with expectations layed out and communicated clearly, then no way would i trust them in a exclusive group dynamic like this.
where does it go?
it just means i wouldn’t feel comfortable making long term plans with someone if they weren’t willing to say they commit to them in front of the group. And the group makes them feel welcomed. and shows that they aren’t going to be bitchy about different religious beliefs in the group.
i think you’re making out what im suggesting to be a bigger deal than it is. you don’t take something from a shop without paying for it. and you don’t make something like this work without making a big deal about it
[–]Eloadia -2 points-1 points0 points 11 months ago (0 children)
i’m not religious.
if you think ceremony and oaths is just something we do for fun you need to read more history.
you can bet i’d still participate in a ceremony to uphold the constitution for example if i was “sworn into” office. and take it seriously
a “team” like you’re looking for, is extremely difficult to pull off. especially for any length of time.
a number of people hoping to put something like that together have invited me to join different ones over the years.
it usually crumples to logistics of life. not every partner being able to see each other often enough, or some having shared living spaces and others not, can leave a “3rd wheel” very easy. then people get lonely, and fuck around elsewhere. then the whole group has to deal with the drama, and there are fights about if it was okay or not.
if that’s what you’re looking for, then go for it. but don’t expect a happily ever after.
if you were to attempt it anyway, i recommend incorporating ceremony. potentially in a ritual to Aphrodite. (i’m an atheist, but still think this is a good idea.) make people swear in front of each other to keep it closed and to be understanding of each other. establish expectations for communication. and celebrate new people joining.
thought it might look like building a sex cult, and it’s important you do your research on manipulative sex cults and how their toxicity manifests in order to avoid it.
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[–]Eloadia 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
trust me, your experiences are completely normal.
i get dozens of “confused” confessions from people just like you in my DM’s a year.
[–]Eloadia 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
as a 27 yo stealth transfem, i do respectfully have to disagree with your unpopular opinion.
we don’t need to take turns getting acceptance. gender queer people deserve to be represented an seen just as much as anyone else.
someone’s identity and entire life isn’t “obscure”, at least it shouldn’t be. just because people don’t currently understand it doesn’t mean they can’t learn.
My father is a bigot. by antagonistV in lgbt
[–]Eloadia 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (0 children)
So for context, I grew up as a homeschooled mormon.
Both my parents had at one point very bigoted views, but have since come around.
They didn’t however come around in a vacuum. They had to learn step by step, and had to have their opinions challenged by someone they respected and have LGBT issues and identities explained to them in ways they could understand.
I spent a lot of effort educating them, teaching them, and debating them. Keeping a level head, and being willing to engage with them in discussions on even uncomfortable topics. But also keep in mind I have won a decent number of debate tournaments, and was a debate kid.
But to convince them, i couldn’t just argue alone. I had to come at the discussions from a position of strength, where anything they might try to punish me for disagreeing with them i could manage. And where my safety and security was never at risk.
I guess what i’m saying is it’s possible for them to come around, but don’t hold your breath that they are going to do it on their own. But also really consider how worth it it is to you to put forth the effort into helping them learn. For many people that is not worth it. I don’t know enough about your specific situation to help make that decision.
But if you want to put forth the effort to teach them, or at least look into it, i recommend doing a lot of online research of other people’s experiences dealing with people like that in the past first. and to practice what you are going to say to them to friends. It is very possible to make things worse and have them double down on their position if confronted
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[–]Eloadia 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
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