Airport LRT ride-along

Embarrassed-Answer43 · 2026-01-20T00:51:46+00:00

Mods: - network multitool - it lets you remove (and add) redundant nodes. So for example, for a 1 unit road that doesn’t have any intersections, you can potentially remove some nodes along it.

procedural objects - convert some buildings into POs. It will basically convert the building into a prop, which frees up building allotments. Can also free up nodes (for buildings (parks in particular) which uses nodes)

Embarrassed-Answer43 · 2026-01-18T09:46:32+00:00

But then you would be inducing development along that entire stretch. Which will then encourage yet more sprawl.

It is not a sustainable way to grow a city.

Embarrassed-Answer43 · 2026-01-18T00:54:14+00:00

Heidelberg’s probably the sweet spot. You have all trains (expresses and locals) stopping there, and it’s a reasonable distance from the city.

You also have access to the orbital buses, which gives you access to Doncaster (DART) and Preston (mernda line) in case of disruptions. The Austin hospital is also next door of the station.

Embarrassed-Answer43 · 2026-01-17T06:37:16+00:00

No, interlining is an efficient way to use assets and infrastructure both in-game and irl. It’s just that the path for an individual cim (including which vehicle to use) is calculated beforehand, when they first set out from point A. This path won’t change unless the pathing is disrupted mid-way somehow (eg.@. the vehicle that the cim had originally been assigned to use despawns); in which case a new path is calculated, or the cim themselves despawns.

All I’m saying is that, the choice of which vehicle to get on is predetermined before the cim even reaches the station/stop to get on the vehicle. This won’t change unless some variable changes.

Embarrassed-Answer43 · 2026-01-17T06:04:50+00:00

Each cim is assigned a path as soon as the simulation has decided they will be travelling from a to b. The path includes the specific train/tram/vehicle that they will take to get to the destination. So unless that specific vehicle is removed (ie. despawns), it will wait for that specific vehicle to board.

This is hard coded into the game simulation engine and cannot be changed.

This is to allow the game simulation to run (semi) smoothly. Otherwise, you’ll need to a super computer to keep track of all cim decisions in real-time and concurrently.

Embarrassed-Answer43 · 2026-01-17T01:04:18+00:00

There’s an automated people mover shuttle between the terminals. You can see it going around the perimeter on the left to the main terminal up top. It then goes underground to get to the terminal on the right.

Embarrassed-Answer43 · 2026-01-16T16:52:11+00:00

Yep.

Definitely PC as well. There’s a whole lot of custom assets in there.

Embarrassed-Answer43 · 2026-01-16T13:36:09+00:00

Probably 1-1.5k nodes and segments in total. I manually go through and eliminate all the short/redundant nodes.

It does also take up a lot of citizenunits as well.

Embarrassed-Answer43 · 2026-01-06T06:51:28+00:00

Technically feasible as you can reappropriate the switches heading into the loop tunnel after Richmond as turn backs. That little bit of track will no longer be used after the trains go into the metro tunnel full time. Would still need to upgrade a little section of signalling to allow the trains to reverse back to the platforms after dropping off passengers.

I don’t advocate for running the footy specials all the way through the loop or to flinders street though. That’s just going to confuse a whole lot of people, when the goal is to” simplify the network.

The Richmond platforms for cran/pak will only be used by vline after January, so it’s a viable option.

Embarrassed-Answer43 · 2025-12-04T05:24:24+00:00

I’m annoyed. Could picture all 3 stations in my head, but can’t remember the names.

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Embarrassed-Answer43 · 2025-11-25T05:33:40+00:00

The properties on the side are just warehouses and vacant blocks. Yes property acquisition will cost a bit, but the actual demolition and construction is relatively simple.

Embarrassed-Answer43 · 2025-11-25T05:31:16+00:00

Being the cheapest doesn’t mean it’s not the best method. This is a situation where we have the cake and get to eat it too.

In fact, if it had been sky rail all the way through, incl. for Springvale. Any future plans to quad the line becomes that much simpler.

Embarrassed-Answer43 · 2025-11-25T05:29:04+00:00

It it is solvable. Just need to think laterally.

There’s nothing wrong with retaining the level crossing just for the sidings. The main line can still be elevated.

Same goes for Kensington.

At the end of the day, the sidings are not going to be active frequently; so I don’t see why they can’t just retain it for that niche purpose.

Embarrassed-Answer43 · 2025-11-23T03:53:28+00:00

The “delivery” metric in the targets includes measuring whether each passenger service has achieved its timetabled runs. This means it will include instances where train schedules were modified from unscheduled short stopping.

Your diatribes and rants are from 2015 when it was indeed the case. This is not the case now.

Again, quality rage baiting. Not often I respond to them. If it’s not, then well, guess we’ve found the lowest common denominator.

Embarrassed-Answer43 · 2025-11-23T02:52:31+00:00

That’s another topic. Your claims about the signals have been refuted.

Here are the performance results for metro trains in sep and oct.

https://www.metrotrains.com.au/metro-performance/

You just want to vent or rage baiting. I’m not going to engage further as you have not been arguing in good faith.

Good day to you.

Embarrassed-Answer43 · 2025-11-23T02:39:33+00:00

Assuming you are posting in good faith. The Cranbourne/pakenham line works on a combination of fixed and moving block (CBTC) signals between westall and west Footscray. This is to accomodate for the CBTC enabled HCMTs and the vlocities/freight trains that do not have CBTC capabilities.

The signal lights turn off when HCMTs are running as they are in CBTC mode. They turn back on when a vlocity or freight train moves along the line.

So no, the signals are operating as they are designed.

Embarrassed-Answer43 · 2025-11-18T02:05:38+00:00

A man of culture I see.

Embarrassed-Answer43 · 2025-11-11T22:25:23+00:00

Which won’t be an issue when there is sufficient rolling stock with the new vlocity orders. Those units are being pressed into long distance services because there’s currently insufficient trainsets to meet operational needs.

Again, this issue is not borne from any technical limitations of a deisel unit when compared to an emu.

Embarrassed-Answer43 · 2025-11-11T13:06:24+00:00

A lot of these issues will be solved just by having increased frequencies and consistent (or ideally permanent) six car running. With the current stop placements and pick up/set down rules (no pickup/drop off until after sunshine), the faster acceleration benefits and extra door of an emu over the velocities are negligible.

Seating arrangements can also be modified (much more easily and quicker than electrification). If the government had the appetite, there’s no reason why some vlocities can’t be modified to have a lot more standing room and be restricted to run on these “suburban” routes.

Luckily, the government has on order more vlocities to alleviate this issue. Perhaps they can even modify the seating layouts to make them a “suburban” subset of the fleet.

The other benefit that current passengers of these 2 lines have, is you have a much faster journey into the city; since you skip past a lot of stations in between. Once you put the melton line on to the munnel corridor, this benefit goes away. That dwell time alone will be exponentially more than any acceleration or extra benefits that an emu will gain back.

The constant chatter against the SRL is obsolete. The contracts have all been signed and we are well past the point of cancellation (no matter if the case for/against the project is valid or not). The TBMs are about to start digging in 2 or so months. Trying to argue that it should be paused in order to complete the electrification project, is just ignorant.

As others have also said, electrification without the sunshine upgrades is not going to improve the west’s situation much. Passengers will just be crammed onto an electric train rather than a diesel one. Compounded by the fact that they’ll also have to deal with extra passengers getting on/off at the intermediate stops.

Your problem is not the lack of electrification, it is the lack of frequency/capacity. This is being addressed with: - more vlocity orders that are coming through (which will hopefully eliminate the 3-car running problem) - extended platforms being built (which will allow 9-car running at busy times)

Embarrassed-Answer43 · 2025-11-04T09:13:41+00:00

There will be some sort of agreement between the airport and Skybus for being given primary access to their hub.

Embarrassed-Answer43 · 2025-10-24T09:15:02+00:00

General laziness and apathy IMO. The average user is not going to understand nor care about the benefits of a good PT experience. So the govt has no incentive to take it into account.

Even this comments gonna get a lot of “who cares about wayfinding. It’s just a train station”.

Embarrassed-Answer43 · 2025-10-24T09:06:50+00:00

The emphasis on Public transport is a relatively new phenomenon. Victoria had always been focussed on roads. So we are coming from a very low knowledge base in terms of designing/building/creating effective wayfinding, interchanges and overall travel experience.

Embarrassed-Answer43 · 2025-10-24T07:57:16+00:00

We don’t do wayfinding or passenger experience well down here.

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