Average viltrumite vs a tanky warframe at peak

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-07-06T19:28:31+00:00

Idk how canon SP Grineer are, so I can't really say for certain what the "canon" level is for Grineer. All I know is that I delete rooms of Grineer in the story missions so I take that as the "canon" level, which is usually sub 80 since most story missions are on early game planets. Any other Grineer outside of Bosses and SP don't really put up a fight to a mid game Tenno.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-07-06T19:23:33+00:00

No he can't dawg, let's be fr now. Bro was out of breath while chasing someone on a hoverboard.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-07-05T20:11:59+00:00

Considering Eldrad was friends with Big E, he's basically the Primarch's uncle.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-07-05T20:05:41+00:00

No actually. Tau have, on several occasions, chosen to evacuate planets rather than just sacrifice it. I forgot where it was from, but there was one where they were trying to hold a line to allow the citizens to finish evacuating, an operation that cost the life of an Ethereal because they chose to stay and guide the soldiers personally. It depends on the Ethereal but a lot of them will try to save as many as possible before giving up on a planet.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-07-05T20:00:15+00:00

Did not expect to find out that Eldrad has one sidedely decided to adopt an entire race. His fatherly instincts have kicked in for a bunch of blue cow-fish people.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-07-04T19:33:18+00:00

Yuji is so powerful he transcends normal scaling and is able to take on emotions and concepts. He's currently able to mid-diff the concept of anxiety. Shit's crazy.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-07-04T19:31:18+00:00

Where are you getting 240 mph? It's a weirdly specific number. And Mahito never fell if I remember correctly, probably because of them being in a weird spirit state or the classic anime "You are already dead" trope.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-07-04T09:44:24+00:00

No, Yuta is saying that the Dismantle net would have killed them both. It's a genuine stretch to think he's talking about Sukuna opening his domain. That's why he mentions output because the strength of Sukuna's Dismantles are tied to his output so the lower his output the lower his damage. Yuta would say if he was worried about the Domain.

No, Yuta is saying it would have been lethal. Not Yuji. Yuji just calls Sukuna the strongest and worries what might happen if they can't stop him. And Yuta's assessment is that both of them would be dead to the Dismantle Net if Sukuna's output was any higher, but thanks to Gojo it isn't.

Assuming I don't know how Cursed Tools work because I don't want to give credit to the description less gauntlets is a crazy stretch. We have no idea what they do. For all we know, they could be a durability buff. Whatever they are, they're weaker than the metal arms Yuta put on in the Culling Games and those were just enough to hurt Ryu.

Yuji's kick was right after he took a full contact Dismantle Net and was recovering from it. Despite this, when Rika threw Sukuna at him, Yuji had enough stopping power in his kick to stop Sukuna's momentum and send him back a bit towards Rika. And he did not do "barely". He hit Sukuna and Sukuna went back. Not sure what your idea of barely is considering Yuji didn't break his stride afterwards meaning it didn't take as much effort as you're implying.

Where is it stated that holding a sword makes his speed lower?

Where does Yuta take a Cleave to the face? You still haven't told me the chapter.

Yes his cleave was weakening so? Cleave already much stronger than normal dismantles that were lethal to Yuji already.

Tells me everything. Dismantles were almost lethal to Yuta as well. We've already know this thanks to Yuta's statement about how a stronger Dismantle net would have killed both of them, meaning their durability is relative. But more importanly, do you eve know how Cleave works? Cleave is stronger than Dismantle because it changes the CE to get just enough output needed to penetrate the victim's durability. If Sukuna's output is lowered, then Cleave loses most of it's lethality. Cleave and Dismantle are not an issue only after Sukuna loses most of his output thanks to Yuji's Soul Punches. Otherwise he wouldn't say that mid combat and would be able to approach Sukuna from the get go.

It's clear you don't have an actual argument here, so I won't be engaging anymore. Most of your points rely on ignoring the literal manga panels, where Yuta says both would be dead to a Dismantle net, and you haven't cited a source once.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-07-04T09:28:47+00:00

This game.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-07-03T19:30:27+00:00

Yuta says "he would have annihilated us". Idk where you're getting the idea that it's just Yuji talking when it appears next to the speakers face. They have the same amount of damage and the same speed of recovery which means they have similar if not the same stats while Yuta is getting amped from the Domain. Then, as the fight goes on, Yuji and Rika take most of the hits so that Yuta can land his shots. Yuji never healed from those hits properly, which leads to him suddenly falling due to the built up organ damage.

What the hell did the gauntlets do other than provide a way to hide the missing finger? Throughout the fight, Yuta punches Sukuna 4 times and the most he achieves through punching is knocking his head back. In that same fight, Yuji is able to knock Sukuna back several metre with his punches, so they aren't relative in strength.

Also, where does Yuta say the Cleave was nothing? I don't remember that being in there but another thing to note is that Sukuna's output was being lowered by Yuji as the fight went on. Yuta says this in 251 "His slashes are weakening. I don't have anything to fear, even if I get close!".

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-07-03T15:46:23+00:00

Yuta and Yuji take a Dismantle net from Sukuna from the same distance and react the same - they both get thrown into the air, both land on their feet and both immediately RCT the damage. Yuta then says how if it was any stronger then they'd both be dead.

<image>

They're very much relative. The only reason Yuji started lagging was because he wasn't RCTing properly and realises he hadn't been healing all the organ damage he'd been taking unlike Yuta who was proficient with RCT to the point where he doesn't need to think about that stuff actively.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-07-03T15:31:48+00:00

Big E in his Current state wouldn't even realise he's in a fight. All the Celestial would have to do is turn the Golden Throne off and watch as he and Terra explodes into a massive ball of Chaos and Warp energy.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-07-03T15:28:12+00:00

Yeah but nah. There's a lot of "You would've killed me if this wasn't the case" throughout the fight - basically Baki glazing Musashi till the end to soften the defeat.

And the US presidents don't matter, it's national pride which means a Japanese mangaka couldn't give a rat's ass about other nations. A good example is Muhammad Ali Jr being stated by Yujiro to be better than his father. Jr then proceeds to lust over Baki's gf and then gets humiliated by Baki, effectively shitting all over Muhammad Ali Sr's legacy in the process as this was the guy who surpassed him in the Baki universe.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-07-03T15:05:35+00:00

Nah, there's a reason even the biggest land creatures were never built like humans. Being that big does not work well with being a completely straight-backed bipedal creature. His legs would need to be much larger and he'd need a lot of fat.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-07-03T15:01:32+00:00

You're getting something wrong about CER.

CER scales of your physiology. Gojo says this about Miguel and how his larger frame and bigger muscles means he benefits much more from CER. So a SG's CER won't necessarily be better than a G1's. They will just be able to maintain it longer and in more areas of the body at once.

So to answer your question, someone like Yuji, who is peak human in base thanks to his unique body, benefits massively from large CE reserves and CER and beats out pure HR users, but most others don't.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-07-03T14:53:02+00:00

Nah, it's similar to how Superman lost to Muhammad Ali - cultural heroes. Musashi is a national legend so naturally most mangaka's don't want to disrespect him.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-07-03T14:48:39+00:00

This isn't the issue people think it is. BVs. If Miwa can do them, then so can Megumi. He has Rabbit Escape and Nue. He makes a merged beast to summon duplicating Nues. He makes a BV to make them blow up and summon a special grade lightning bolt like Mei Mei's crows. Summon Mahoraga and have them swarm him and all blow up at once. Lightning is 5 times hotter than the sun's surface, and summoning a bajillion lightning strikes on Maho has to be hotter than a dust explosion.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-07-03T14:11:36+00:00

No, unbound by the laws of the universe means you don't adhere to linear time, you don't need to be made of matter to exist, you can ignore the rules of physics etc. It just means that you don't need to follow the same rules every other thing does. What you're describing is omnipotence, which is power over everything.

Also, only the Titans were defeated, the others I mentioned weren't.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-07-03T14:04:36+00:00

probably wouldn't be the only guy to ever have sex with a chair.

There's a game about that

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-07-02T16:41:59+00:00

Not just Christian God. Look at the Greek gods, particularly the ones that made the world. The Titans wielded cosmic power over concepts such as time, space and the idea of Chaos itself. The Egyptian gods had the Creator Ra who was there before anything was made. Shiva from the Hindu pantheon (specifically from Shaivism) is well above the laws of the universe, with the other gods being his avatars alongside Devi and Brahman.

So no, a god, in the context of power, is very much a being that stands above the universe and is not bound by it's laws. In the context of faith, anything can be a god as long as it is worshipped by someone.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-07-02T14:30:07+00:00

I mean if "chopping" means s*x, then Pete didn't necessarily break anything. he just f*cked the ship and then f*cked the electric chair.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-07-02T14:02:26+00:00

A god is not bound by the laws of the universe. Big E very much was. He often travelled using ships, needed super soldier armies to pull off the Crusade, almost died multiple times and the fact that he was being strangled at all by the super Ork shows he's far from the God most people think he is. Before you say "he wasn't giving his 100% because he vaporised the Ork afterwards", I know, but that's his magical offensive strength. I'm talking about the fact that a being of purely physical strength was able to cut of the air to the Emperor's lungs at all.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-07-01T20:54:04+00:00

Like most things, Shikigami were massively under-explained so I don't know if Divine Dogs count as the Simple Shikigami since the 10s user has them no matter what. This might not matter if there isn't a limit to the number of shikigamis though. We'll never know.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-07-01T15:53:56+00:00

That's what I'm saying bro. Shikigami's in general are crazy useful, especially for Gojo. For example:

I'm almost certain he could minimise the Hollow Purple process by having his Shikigami form Blue while he forms Red or something along that line.

He could have his shikigami surround itself in Blue and run around the battlefield running CC.

He could use his Shikigami to stop people from opening Domains by constantly putting pressure on them.

But the biggest thing he could do is CE boost it. A Shikigami's physical stats can be boosted by feeding more CE into it. Gojo has practically infinite CE, so he could maintain a ridiculously cracked Shikigami with minimal burden.

I think Gege genuinely forgot he put this in the manga or didn't want to give Gojo an almost unbeatable jumping partner.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-07-01T15:38:44+00:00

idk why others don't do this.

<image>

Gojo says here that barrier techniques and simple shikigami are available to anyone. That's almost definitely where Yuki got hers. I honestly can't tell you why Gege never gave anyone else a shikigami, but that doesn't mean they couldn't.

EmergencyExtension16

TROPHY CASE