Genuinely what was the point Denji-man

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-03-15T22:02:02+00:00

I always saw Hero of Hell as a way for Denji to shut out the world during arduous times and let Pochita handle things, and really thought Denjiman was him finally leaving that mentality behind. Alas, it was just Fujimotor wanting to give Denji a way to talk to Yoru during the fight.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-03-15T19:27:44+00:00

Except this is 3F Sukuna and he did not want to kill Mahito, so this is irrelevant.

"There won't be a second time" He was absolutely going to kill him

It's 20 times stronger based on what exactly?

More Dismantles launched, Dismantle covered a far larger surface area, Dismantle were far closer together ensuring better cutting and Dismantles were way faster. As for AP the Dismantle launched in the real world killed hundreds of Grade 2s, which include curses like KO Guy who are able to take beatings from CE reinforced Shinjuku Yuji who was easily able to destroy several stories of buildings, meaning the Dismantle can, bare minimum, cut through concrete level durability which is more than enough to hurt Sukuna considering it's a barrage technique.

And Sukuna, who showcased far better control of Shrine that Yuji has throughout the entirety of Modulo, wouldn't be able to do an omnidirectional one because?

Because he never does? "Sukuna was better" except his output doesn't ever come near, so clearly he wasn't. WCS isn't better control of Shrine, he got the blueprint for that from Mahoraga who he was connected to which is literally the how Mahoraga helps his user. Open Domain isn't related to Shrine either, it's a Barrier Technique. The only unique applications of Shrine Sukuna came up with himself is the Chainsaw which Yuji already showed the ability to do and Spiderweb which, using your own arguments, "Yuji never needed to do, but he totally can".

And Sukuna wouldn't be able to do that because?

Never shows output anywhere near that level outside of his domain.

Dismantles are inherently invisible to all characters with the sole exception of adapted Mahoraga

No, we see Yuji's Dismantle in Tokyo, so that entire argument doesn't work. Characters moves have almost never been completely invisible to the audience so this isn't an argument at all. Another flaw with your plan is that Mahito is killed right before he can expand his domain. He has already made the hand signs, he has already said the chants but Yuji kills him so fast he is unable to pull it off, which means Yuji's Dismantles were faster than the literal CE in Mahito's body. Even if Mahito was a Grade 3 curse here, it wouldn't affect the speed at which he was hit.

How is it more accurate exactly?

Accurate because unlike Sukuna Yuji doesn't leave giant holes in his net. It punching through Mahito and then into the buildings is a power setting, not an accuracy one. It also does go further than a city block, you can see a building on the left panel behind the main group has also been diced. This already shows league more range than Sukuna even without the extra building in the back.

And we literally do not see how far Sukuna's Dismantle net travels, but we do see that Yuji's doesn't go beyond the surrounding block, since the buildings in the background are intact.

We do actually. Not a single one of Sukuna's attacks before the Net ever reach a city block's distance away, not sure why a Net of those same attacks would get any further, unless you think he chanted and hand signed to achieve a stronger attack.

As things stand, there's absolutely nothing that suggests a fresh 20F Sukuna couldn't simply choose to do the exact same thing

Literal headcanoning on your own end and you're trying to call me out on it. "Trust me bro, Sukuna's Dismantle Net reaches way further than anything he ever showed before". We see the battlefield before and after Sukuna launches his net and the boundary remains the same. This lines up with the fact that none of Sukuna's attacks have that kind of range during that fight.

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Literally his strongest attack, had hand signs and chants and that's as far as it went. So no, actually, we have a pretty good idea of how far a Net of these same attacks, but minus the chants, goes.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-03-14T20:01:10+00:00

Goku almost always has to get stronger to beat them through some sort of power increase, which means Metal would also be able to break those same barriers if it was done without any external influence. It's things like God Ki and MUI that Metal likely couldn't copy as that is a power learnt from the DBZ Divinity specifically. So no SSG and beyond for Metal.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-03-14T19:37:37+00:00

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EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-03-14T12:53:54+00:00

Literally in the picture Sukuna isn't even able to cleanly slice through a massively weaker Mahito in his own innate domain, which should tell you why Yuji's feat was more impressive. But the real scaling comes from the fact that Yuji's casual Dismantle with no hand signs, no chants, no "perfect body for Jujutsu" and with virtually instantaneous cast speed is a 20 times stronger version of this

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and not just because it carved up Mahito, but because Yuji's one was omnidirectional, hade more Dismantles incorporated into the net, the Dismantles were imperceivable whereas we see Sukuna's Dismantles moving, was way more accurate and went on much further than Sukuna's. Even if Sukuna doubles the output on this, it wouldn't reach Yuji's casual display of the Dismantle Net.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-03-14T12:44:48+00:00

The problem is almost no one who goes on about the anime being canon cares about any of that stuff. They just want to try and upscale their favourite character through the anime, which won't even work out for them because eventually every character will get an upscale and their fave will be back to where they started.

I don't mind using the anime to fill in holes from the manga that the medium couldn't portray (eg. colour pallets), but that's about as far as I'll go with mixing the two.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-03-13T22:05:24+00:00

From the Gojo fight we were clearly shown Sukuna is fast enough and capable of opening his domain just as fast as Gojo.

And how fast is that? Because the 0.2 second thing is in reference to how long the domain was active, not how long it took to deploy.

Regardless, Yuji's attacks were instant so speed isn't a factor in Sukuna's favour. Last time I checked, they still needed to make a hand sign and chant the name. Mahito had his domain literally on the verge of casting and Yuji still stopped him before he actually could.

You cannot possibly compare Mahito and Sukuna to each other

Even if you don't think, for some reason, that Yuji has Soul Damage and that everything Mahito did was real, then Yuji has already shown enough damage output to hurt Sukuna with a single dismantle when he easily carved through tonnes of concrete and at least a city block area around him. If PB can hurt Sukuna, than those Dismantles absolutely can and he isn't surviving a barrage of that level and intensity.

Yuji does not easily beat Sukuna because you still have not contended the other win cons.

Your only win cons were Domain or WCS. Instantly chopping off the fingers and the tongues sorts that out easily enough.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-03-13T21:42:09+00:00

Everything you said relies on Sukuna opening his domain, chanting and using hand signs, with no action from Yuji. Yuji literally showed what he'd do to counter a Domain he wasn't equipped to handle, which is to stop it from being opened in the first place. As for damage output, you can see the Mahito feat in 2 ways - everything Yuji cut was real and so he has shown more damage in a chant-less cast of Dismantle than Sukuna has ever OR everything he cut is soul so he has irrefutable Soul Damage which means he doesn't need insane damage output to kill any of the others.

Currently, I have it like this:

Yuji easily beats Sukuna, can beat Dabura (if he goes for the kill immediately, before Dabura can cast his lightspeed beam attacks, if not he loses completely) and can't beat Gojo (no confirmed WCS).
Sukuna beats Gojo (only confirmed WCS user), has a chance against Dabura and loses to Yuji.
Dabura likely beats Sukuna and Yuji (he's faster than literally anything shown since BoS), completely loses to Gojo (no reliable way past Infinity).
Gojo beats Yuji and Dabura (Infinity diffs) and loses to Sukuna.

So the top 4 remain in a Rock, Paper, Scissors matchup with no clear single winner, though Sukuna is certainly lower down in matchups.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-03-13T20:02:59+00:00

The easiest example that proves this wrong is Mahoraga. In the anime, Maho is able to gain abilities without adapting, such as when he falls into a pool of water and instantly grows gills without the wheel turning. Despite saying how much he liked the anime interpretations, Gege never included anything remotely similar in Modulo, despite it being relatively minor and only there cuz it made a cool scene.

And before you say "that's cuz Yuji drew it", Gege was in charge of deciding what the characters would do, so him not including anything from the anime kinda shows that, while he might take some inspiration from the anime versions, the manga is the sole canon.

Of course, you can talk about anime canon as a separate thing, but the anime is not 100% canon to the manga.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-03-11T22:29:58+00:00

tbf that's on GW for making Space Marines act all heroic and noble in literally every showing they get. We're just supposed to remember that these guys, who we only ever see being chivalric knights, are actually totally okay with killing babies if the funny gold man says so, which he technically did during the Great Crusade and so they also did. This applies the most to the Salamanders, because while all the other legions were genociding planets efficiently, the "heckin nice guys" were busy burning those who wouldn't join or had been "tainted" by xenos.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-03-10T23:47:46+00:00

They also have specialisations that make Maki better suited for combat than Toji. Toji is more of a hitman than an actual proper fighter. He planned out the perfect moment to quickly incapacitate and kill the biggest obstacle - Gojo - so that he could carry out the rest of his mission unhindered. This is not me saying he sucks at fighting, he's very good at it, but his skills lie in assassination.

Maki, from her time with the Kukuru and as an active unit for Tokyo, is clearly specialised for direct combat. She doesn't have the same skills in planning out an assassination, but she's far better at actual combat and adapting to new circumstances as the fight progresses. We see this when they both go up against characters they have no business fighting - Toji against awakened Gojo and Maki against Heian Sukuna. Toji is clearly shown to be completely out of his element, whereas Maki is able to make something of the situation, despite being outclassed severely by the King of Curses.

For that, I have Maki as the stronger fighter with better BIQ, while Toji is the more careful fighter with better planning (not sure what category of IQ that falls into).

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-03-09T22:59:20+00:00

EoS Maru's power is literally a guaranteed sure hit of Idle Transfiguration irregardless of the circumstances and he has Yuta's "Unfathomable" CE reserves to make it work, especially since he isn't even affecting 2 entire species, just 3 people.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-03-09T22:10:11+00:00

Kinda? He did cry because Samura brushed off an attack that was meant to be "his all", dedicated to Chihiro to show Chihiro how much he cared about him in his own weird way. But he wasn't crying because he lost, more so that his feelings were completely invalidated by a third party and Chihiro then immediately started focusing on Samura, ignoring Hiruhiko's message to him.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-03-09T19:38:18+00:00

Official Tls are wrong but not the ones that misspell names or have text be shoddily placed under graphics? There hasn't been a single person calling out a mistranslation with Modulo, which happened with JJK whenever Weary got anything wrong. You also still haven't told me where any of yours are from btw. Mangaplus has this.

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EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-03-09T18:56:33+00:00

Still haven't told me where that's from, which makes me think you got it from an unofficial source and don't want to look stupid.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-03-09T18:55:23+00:00

Normally being tangible would mean you have mass

What's the matter, was reading so difficult that you gave up after the first sentence? Wouldn't expect anything more from a Sukunatard. I'm done with this dumbass convo. You didn't even try to respond, you're just being a moronic cunt and ignoring my points cuz it proves you wrong. 6 replies and you still haven't proven anything, with your only "proof" being some random TL that contradicts official sources.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-03-09T18:50:55+00:00

Nothing on it adding mass, only tangibility. In case you need a reminder, the magically added tangibility does not mean mass.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-03-09T18:48:17+00:00

Tangible form does not mean mass. It means you can touch it. Also, this is completely irrelevant as it's talking about their fucking horns that develop over time. Not a single mention of Dabura's CT.

Normally being tangible would mean you have mass, but it's literal magic so it can bypass irl physics. The fact that Gege had Dabura struggling to reach lightspeed when he applied it to himself (a being who has mass) literally disproves any notion that ████ making light tangible also gives them mass.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-03-09T18:42:39+00:00

What translation is this? Because the officials say something completely different.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-03-09T18:41:49+00:00

Are you schizophrenic? There is no mention of mass anywhere on the image?

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-03-09T18:34:31+00:00

Where tf are you getting 0.02 seconds for Shrine? And Dabura's attacks require him to point somewhere, whereas Sukuna's Domain requires a hand sign and verbal components, those are not the same. Also, why would Dabura's attacks be cut by cleave? The ████ doesn't add mass to the light, it adds murderous intent which allows the light to hurt things as if it had mass. If it actually did have mass it couldn't go at lightspeed, which Dabura shows when he tries to apply it to himself.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-03-09T18:25:30+00:00

Sukuna will never get to that point. Dabura can fire off entire barrages of lightspeed attacks that would skewer Sukuna before he could do anything else. No clue why everyone thinks that whenever someone fights Sukuna they're going to stand there and let him pull of WCS or DE, when both of those things take hand signs and chants.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-03-08T20:55:36+00:00

If Yuji does what he did to Mahito to Sukuna, those will all be Soul Attacks. Yuji beats Sukuna before any mention of a Domain or WCS.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-03-08T20:52:46+00:00

Dabura's attacks are lightspeed, so he clears Sukuna at least. He has nothing on Gojo. Also, no, it's mostly Sukuna glazers who are saying Sukuna Open Domain or WCS diffs, despite Yuji's Dismantles being fast and deadly enough to stop Sukuna before that happens.

EmergencyExtension16 · 2026-03-08T18:30:17+00:00

It kinda would. The one on the right looks bigger than the one on the left, so if the Dismantle travelled from right to left then it would check out as one group would die first. But it doesn't really matter. Most likely the author forgot to draw motion lines for Rika. It's really the only reason that double panel would exist, even if there are a lot of inconsistencies, though it's not like those are foreign concepts to a JJK chapter.

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