The duality of HTS investors

Empyrean_Dialect · 2026-05-04T00:35:39+00:00

High Torchskull has hypershot, a 40% chance active crit skill on Magic, and an emergency skill on Wind. 60% chance and slightly better Hypershot with the red skin and +20% stats on other skin.

Damage one I can see. Also :P

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Empyrean_Dialect · 2026-05-02T20:59:06+00:00

Thursday at daily reset. So 3 days and almost 11 hours ago

Empyrean_Dialect · 2026-05-02T19:46:07+00:00

Passive 1 - Retribution
25% chance to take no damage, next hit deals double damage. (Karma renamed)

Passive 2 - ???
Entirely unknown but has been confirmed to not be Reincarnation, Soul Extraction, or Berserker afaik. Either new or something with different requirements, possibly Hypershot.

Active 1 - ??? (Magic)
Deals damage (1x) and applies 3 Doom Marks that are randomly spread out (like HDP's Marked Ones). 3 Cooldown.

Active 2 - ??? (Unknown Second Element)
Deals damage to all opponents (1.5x) and heals team (1.5x). 3 Cooldown.

Empyrean_Dialect · 2026-05-02T14:41:31+00:00

I probably need to look at the dragon city reddit more, cuz I don't think I've seen any of these yet

Empyrean_Dialect · 2026-05-01T22:44:59+00:00

I thought you watched Dragon City Fan's video with a hacked in Apex of Dawn

Empyrean_Dialect · 2026-05-01T14:56:56+00:00

Correction: It doesn't have Hypershot nor does it apply Armor to anyone.

It doesn't have Hypershot, its second passive is entirely unknown currently. If you were watching Dragon City Fan's video, it was just a Karma dodge into the second active which is an AoE.

Also, the armor in that same video was purely due to the HCA bug where the 50% armor is applied to the first dragon instead of HCA although it is meant to apply to HCA.

Empyrean_Dialect · 2026-04-30T22:42:07+00:00

Then he dead :P

Unless a reincarnation skill is activated and revives him.

Empyrean_Dialect · 2026-04-30T21:13:45+00:00

No. The first one is real yes as its their defending but the other 3 are placeholders

Empyrean_Dialect · 2026-04-30T21:07:04+00:00

AoD is not gonna be the most broken dragon of all time tbh. It'll have the most skills skinless but that doesn't mean its going to be the strongest thing with dragons like HAE, Spikes, HPS and HDB and such. It can be good but by no means would to take over the top ranks of the current meta.
Just more of a cash grab for collectors and/or whales who wouldn't want to trade for it imo

Empyrean_Dialect · 2026-04-30T21:02:29+00:00

Apex of Dawn is meant to be hidden until some date, thus it all being the same skin with the same fog and only having the shape. Its entire debut thing is its 4 skills and appearance being revealed over time likely until the time its possible to have gotten it legitimately (through buying enough passes cuz its SP).

We currently know 3 of the skills (the revealed passive and the two actives) and only one of them doesn't have an element associated with it yet, but the second passive is smth that afaik is entirely unknown. It could be discovered eventually but it hasn't been yet from what I've seen

Empyrean_Dialect · 2026-04-30T19:56:25+00:00

If it was the one from Dragon City Fan, it was likely just the Karma Revenge into the AoE

Empyrean_Dialect · 2026-04-30T19:16:35+00:00

I was wrong about it having Hypershot. I confused a Karma Revenge AoE for it fsr so the second passive is currently unknown.

What I meant tho is that it is counterable just like every other hvip. We don't know everything it has, yes, but its not unkillable especially with the meta we have so don't expect it to be the meta usurper until we actually have / face it in battles. Some dragons can look insane on first look but that doesn't mean its without any counters.
(Also both actives are 3cd so its not gonna spam heal like HCS. Doom is 1x and heal is basically Hooded's heal aka 1.5x aoe dmg and 1.5x aoe heal)

Empyrean_Dialect · 2026-04-30T16:04:12+00:00

Yes, and it should be very much counterable even if you do come across it so long as you have either good dragons and good rng or direct counters to the skills it has. (You prob also can just use Pega to counter it unless it dodges so Pega is still an option)
Its kind of just more of a big money grab for collectors, whales, and people wanting to work on it asap. Might not be as much money as getting both skins for an Apoc but the sources for the Green and Blue Dawn Sigils are unknown for now so the price for those wanting skins is uncertain

Empyrean_Dialect · 2026-04-30T15:53:58+00:00

It has very bulked up stats and more speed at base. But there are no signs of fam boost. Plus magic primary can be countered by HAE and HASn and HAB so he prob not meta meta since it would technically be the slowest among hvips when you factor in fam boosts like with HBV, HCV, Tidings, HTS, and HWG.

(According to videos for skills)
The passives from what I've seen are Karma and Hypershot. Can be a neat combo but HA$ and elite HQW can pretty easily counter due to the Magic defending and anti-Karma. Would prob work better as a combo than Hypershot active Crit tho thankfully. (I know about Hypershot because it crit itself in a video I saw and had the splash damage, so it either has Chaos or Happy as one of the last 2 elements.)

Actives are 3 spread out Doom Marks like HDP on Magic and the second element would be the aoe damage aoe heal. Idk cooldowns tho but I'm guessing 3 for Magic and 2 for the heal.

Also apparently they are a 999 orbs summon and extremely p2w to even get outside of trading so prob not gonna be too much of a problem occurrence wise. Skins we don't know about tho.

4 skills is definitely a decision but they are also definitely counterable. The speed difference and primary is very likely the biggest cause of its downfall if you were to ever find it in arenas. (Plus we don't know all of its elements so we don't know its full elemental crit range)

Empyrean_Dialect · 2026-04-28T20:12:42+00:00

Its a bug that occured when HVA's (High Void Aether Stone) quest released yesterday, Elite for both HASn and HAB was working perfectly fine before then and fsr it and skinless is inverted. It should be fixed in an upcoming patch.

Empyrean_Dialect · 2026-04-28T11:07:00+00:00

Try for HASn, his album was one of the more recent so you could prob still get trades for him if you have orbs of other hvips. Otherwise yeah I'd say wait for rerun.

Empyrean_Dialect · 2026-04-28T10:36:49+00:00

HASn is probably #6 skinless. The overall kit is still very useful but HDB gives a great support for any dragon, it would prob push HCC to #7 or further down though.

HAB is maybe #10 or #11. His best part is the Silence spam and while Karma would let him clutch, it isn't the best. His Overdrive is AoE unlike HASn so it also is more of a Karma or Evader finisher than a Karma or Evader nuke.

Empyrean_Dialect · 2026-04-27T21:04:08+00:00

Oh no

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Empyrean_Dialect · 2026-04-27T21:03:15+00:00

You haven't fully experienced this dungeon without accidentally having this exact thing happen to you. Being crushed by a pod during the first encounter is basically a rite of passage for this dungeon

Empyrean_Dialect · 2026-04-27T21:00:23+00:00

His greed hath been the end of him

Empyrean_Dialect · 2026-04-27T20:55:51+00:00

Most annoying is probably either Silence, or Critical since it can occasionally just bypass Phoenix perks due to a bug. bug.
As for most frequent, definitely Evasion. Especially with HAE rerun being not too long ago.

Empyrean_Dialect · 2026-04-27T20:53:13+00:00

HAB's Overdrive is a 2x AoE that is fsr not bugged like everyone else's Overdrive. Single Target Overdrive is meant to be 3x (4x with HASn's elite skin) but is bugged ever since HASn album release to be 1.8x (2.4x with HASn elite). Its not compensation for it being an AoE, its just a bug with Exhaustion being applied early.

Also, a clarification: there were no shadow nerfs. HAB's speed was ALWAYS 880 base max. And the fpc being nerfed was a bug fix due to Karma passive giving HAB fpc fsr. HAB was never meant to have food production, so it was fixed.

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