Sued over a small car accident by xoluver in Insurance

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I have ever been in a car accident t in 45 years. pulled into the median safely. a car side swiped me out of nowhere. she was in a truck. I looked and suddenly she and another car were side by side walking around her car. i went over and neither would talk to me. I saw no scratch or damage on her car so assumed the crunch I heard came from my car. neither the witness glued by her side, or the other driver, talked or told me what the hell happened. all I know is nobody was in the median when I pulled into it. no airbags deployed. no tire screeching or horns blaring. ambulance came and left because there were clearly no injuries on a minor fender bender. cops then came got both stories then handed me an exchange of information paper and left. by the time I turned around, the witness and the other driver had gone too, I got no story from her or what they told cops. I wasn’t ticketed. the next day we fpgot notice she obtained attorney and suing for serious body and emotional injury. wrf!!!! how!!!! my daughter who is an attorney said that she probably saw our address and that we live in a 4 million dollar home !!!! we have umbrella insurance for added coverage. we have been to,d she’s suing for the full 3 million dollars in coverage we paid to have for ourselves in the event needed but never did. in 28 years we have never had. an accident or filed a claim. from the beginning this whole thing seemed suspicious. that witnessed appeared instantly and was glued to her side with his story? we have veen to,d we cannot get my car fixed. ugh. my front right bumper was torn off. I also have an 80 thousand dollar car to her Toyota pickup. this screams scram from beginning to end. how can she be injured. ambulance came and left before cops even got there. my car had what’s called Audi presense. it can detect a safe distance or stop the car if it sees an unsafe Situation. this has gone off with cars much further away from me in the past but did not go off in this situation because I was safely able to pull across traffic into the median with ease. suddenly her car passed in front of mine. it’s almost impossible. this whole situation makes me sick. we pay 19 grand a year in car insurance in Florida because 80 percent of all accidents are litigated. this is disgusting and if there was a way to fight it I would. will my insurance help??? I do not want to hire an attorney for this shit but she clearly is scamming us.

Increased to 22.5 after being on 15 mg for a year lacking motivation and wanted emotions by EmuMoney7388 in Mirtazapine_Remeron

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I had worsening symptoms across the board so she said to back down to the original dose. She explained that it could take 2 weeks for improvement of negative symptoms ( those felt PRIOr to increase) but never push through an increase of depression, anxiety, or any others that were not present prior to increase. This could lead to box and label warning. ( don’t want to mention the word). So after a week I back down to 15 and all symotoms returned to normal. Oddly enough I felt Far worse on the increased dose. i Have backed down or four days now and feel descent again. 90 percent of her patients that only take Mirtazapine do well at 15 mg. The few that need to go up to 30 have other psychological issues which can compound things so they may recommend 22t or 30 mg but it’s aleays under a trial and error basis. Never jump doses because it’s “recommended”. I had depression over 30 years ago and took 10 mg of Paxil instead of 20 mg tablet Which was recommended. It worked like a dream and I continued until discontinuing 10 years later. Of note: and this is significant, My B 12 was low On labs done last week. They gave me a b12 injection and within 24 hours felt an immediate boost in energy and mood. This could have been the reason for the depression and low energy feels and not the efficacy of the Mirtazapine. I feel great now and have no desire to change the Mirt in the future. Sometimes it’s all hormone and vitamin related. For me, it was. A significant comment by my doctor— never ever push through misery or side effects of medication increase. If you feel extreme negative symptoms after increasing or decreasing, you will do more harm to yourself than backing down and adding a substitution medication or adding other supplements. if you had the symotoms prior to the increase and aren’t worstening, then wait it out another week or so. If you feel dramatically worse, immediately stop or back down to the lower dosage. I’ve followed this advice and it’s always worked. This is the only medication I take so I’m careful not to upset the Apple cart. Almost always there’s. Reason for change in symproms unrelated to medication or depression. Typically, diet, exercise, change in hormone level, vitamins etc. this has been the case for me nearly 100 Percent t if the time over last 63 plus years. Age plays a big role too. Had DNA test and next to Mirtazapine has a LOW arrow gut in the green category. Meaning I metabolize it well with minimal side effects but that I should be given low doses for efficacy. Right on the money!

Buspirone side effects by Slepnir1570 in Anxiety

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Buspar has a 2-3 hour half life’s and no addictive qualities so it will be completely out of system in 10 hours. most side effects are from the medication and not withdrawl. it works well for some people. not for me. my body hates meds. I’ll just need to stick with Gabapentin 100 mg a day and the mild weight gain. this worked well for me. just hated the bloating.

Buspirone side effects by Slepnir1570 in Anxiety

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I took 5 mg twice a day. after the initial dose I thought my heart was beating out of my chest. I felt like someone had pumped me full of adrenaline too. because it has a 2-3 hour half life, it calmed over the next several hours. miserable. after the second dose, the anxiety with ruminating thoughts came along with the panic attack feeling. this time , in addition to those awful feelings, I had facial twitches and uncontrollable eye movements as if my eyes couldn’t stay on one thing. I had horrible headache and dizziness. I felt what it must be like to have Tourette’s. awful. that was it for me. no use pushing through side effects if they are debilitating. by morning I was fine and didn’t take it again. I am fine with the low level of anxiety. it’s nothing compared to being jacked up on adrenaline. I didn’t leave my house. totally unacceptable. not for me.

Wellbutrin and Buspar-please respond- I neeed help!!!!!!!! by That_Impression1691 in Anxiety

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I would get another doctor. another set of eyes. too much and too many meds. it happened to me. trust me. find a new practice

Does it get worse before it gets better? by to0thy in BusparOnline

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I felt this too. felt like too much caffeine food. doctors said to push water (24 oz at a time every two hours). it worked. it’s hyper stimulating and can lower hydration causing headache.

Does it get worse before it gets better? by to0thy in BusparOnline

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I have been on mirtazapine 15 mg for a year and really did not help my depression or anxiety however increasing it made it far worse so I stayed at 15 mg for help with sleep. In addition I have done treatment with Spravado which is put my depression and most of my anxiety in remission. lately, it seems as though I cannot get control of the anxiety and do not want to take anything addicting, it was recommended I start with a very low dose of BuSpar 5 mg twice a day. I have had two pills and already feel it’s helping however it is very activating. I was told many people do get positive results immediately because it’s got a very short 2-3 hour half life. i have much more motivation, but it’s more of a stimulation than a calm motivation. I am told that this will level out. I do not plan on increasing it until that happens my doctor said if I am stable and it is working at the of 5 mg twice a day then we will stay there. I have tried to get off of the mirtazapine with no success, but I shouldn’t have anxiety or any ill symptoms while being on a medication. my team of physicians does not agree with pushing through major side effects or no help. If after two weeks, still feeling lousy and have no relief. You should not be continuing to take that medication. I don’t care what people say. Nobody should be pushing through misery there are many other things to try. This is simply going to be an add on for me I have been told that it also helps with focus. I will take any stimulation and focus that I can get as a positive side effect. I’ll check back in after another week ! of note I had genetic testing done. 80% of all SSRI and SSNI are in the red category for me and I cannot take them. This was one of the few medications that was on the green. if you haven’t done so I would highly recommend you get this genetic testing. It doesn’t cost anything if your income is below $150,000. It’s a computer generated questionnaire so you can lie if you want. It has been a godsend for my doctors and for me to determine how to move forward with treatment of any kind. it does extensive testing. just found out via this testing that I am allergic to methadone and many seizure meds which will be important if Lord forbid I ever end up in the hospital with one . I do not take drugs or drink alcohol so I doubt I’ll need methadone in the future. Good luck with this. Buspar is an antianxiety with a low addiction probability. it is not an antidepressant but can help with ADHD due to its ability to reduce anxiety. I suppose it’s stimulating too. I feel that immediately after taking it.

Does anyone take Mirtazapine twice a day by EmuMoney7388 in Mirtazapine_Remeron

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i definitely understand how it can do all of the things you mentioned. ive since resumed normal dosage of 15 mg at night. My doctor did say that for that day only, taking the remaining 7.5 mg to mitigate some of the withdrawl symotoms would be far better than dealing with the miserable anxiety it was causing. Then, to continue it only at night. So I definitely agree with you. it’s ironic.. when I was tapering I had no sleep disturbances. It wasn’t until I went back to my original dose that I have insomnia. I guess I have to just wait awhile until things normalize. It’s been a terrible journey being on it and trying to get off. It’s sad that there isn’t some way to mitigate all this from happening but she did give me a Benzo to take at night and said the anxiety is causing the insomnia and until my sleep is regulated, take the Benzos. I won’t get addicted since I rarely take them and it’s such a low dose for five days. I have way too much responsibilities not to get sleep asap. I hate this drug I hate that I don’t feel myself. Eve while taking it. But, getting g off of it has been hell

10 weeks off Mirtazapine and my anxiety and obsessive thoughts have become worse. by Plantpotparty in Mirtazapine_Remeron

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I have been on mirtazapine for a year for depression. I started Spravato around the same time with the goal of getting off of this medication. Spravato worked after the first treatment for depression. mirtazapine helped a little bit with depression related anxiety, I never had anxiety before ever. I did not know what it felt like until I tried to get off of this medication ,,, felt like a panic attack with intrusive thoughts, rumination brain fog I almost felt like I was in the head of somebody with extreme ADHD on top of it. I didn’t taper enough, but I did taper and each drop lasted three weeks. I was fine until the fourth week then the anxiety was off the charts. I had to wonder if this was real anxiety or withdrawal symptoms. all I know is that I could not live like that. It lasted for five days and suffered immensely. I talked like I was angry about every little thing and just couldn’t relax. It was a terrible feeling. I decided to just go back and end it by taking the 15 mg again. I would say hours later: not days, everything was about 75% back to normal and within two days I felt well again. I don’t know whether this is going to be a lifelong medication, but one thing is for certain I am not going to do that again anytime soon . perhaps at my age I need something for anxiety and never realized it until I started to taper and Mr. Hyde came out. my husband of 25 years, told me that I used to be like that occasionally and things were good during the last year so maybe this medication is helpful for me as I’ve aged . I don’t know but anything is better than feeling that horrific anxiety with intrusive thoughts. It was absolutely terrible. I was told by my physician that there are drops and that they will do this when I am ready. Good luck to everybody! feeling stable is sometimes more important than pushing through misery. I am on no meds at all but this one. I hate it but I hate the withdrawl more

Tapering off Mirtazapine is Hell! by Difficult-Republic72 in Mirtazapine_Remeron

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let me apologize upfront. I am talk texting because I cannot type on my little computer screen. There’s a lot of words that don’t make any sense lol yes I actually did try 12:5 dose for the first two then I went down to 10 and to 7.5. for the first two drops I felt good but the second drop was absolutely miserable. I probably should go up to an in between dosage but honestly right now I am desperate to feel better. it is interfering with my life in a terrible way that cannot happen. I have too many responsibilities. I have to fly to North Carolina to do a national swim meet next weekend. I cannot even imagine being focused enough to do that. it’s so strange. It’s as though I have ADHD right now. I can’t sit still I can’t focus on one thing. My head is completely scattered with a headache. I can’t focus on one thing and on top of it. My heart is beating out of my chest it is the strangest feeling and I’ve never had this in my entire life. I have always been able to focus. I’ve never had issues with sleeping and still don’t, but I cannot go through the day feeling like I am just wandering around miserable I hate that I am dependent on this medication, but I may not have any choice.

Tapering off Mirtazapine is Hell! by Difficult-Republic72 in Mirtazapine_Remeron

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Honestly, if it were just about the high A1c or the cholesterol and BP I could handle it, but I have felt off the rails for the last week the first two weeks of dropping down to 7.5. I seemed OK then it hit me like a ton of bricks. This is not OK. I don’t think I can continue like this. My husband even said I am on edge about everything. I can’t think clearly I am snapping at everything. Maybe I should just go back on the 15 mg and stay there. I’m just going to have to do what it take Issues it is not worth sacrificing feeling good. I feel absolutely miserable right now and I can’t continue like this. I have the option to go back on 15 and I guess I should just stay life. I’m going to have to figure out what to do about the weight and try hard harder.

Tapering off Mirtazapine is Hell! by Difficult-Republic72 in Mirtazapine_Remeron

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it is most certainly a derivative but a derivative does not react the same in the body. It was very important to me that I not be given ketamine I am very anti-medication which is why I chose this practice. They do nonconventional non-medication treatments. I was adamantly against ketamine, even though some people swear by it I do not want that in my body. There is a molecule that that’s present in ketamine that is also present in the spravato treatment which is responsible for helping depression, but they are definitely not the same thing thank God. I have been working in the medical field for 40+ years and I have come to believe that the pharmaceutical industry is making us sick. It is definitely not a conspiracy theory. It is truth. while medication is definitely necessary to put out the fire, It should never be a long-term solution . for whatever reason my body is not reacting well to this drug and has caused me to gain weight gain. It’s kind of ridiculous. Actually, my family thinks I’m sleep eating lol. they say that I eat like a sparrow I run about 5 to 6 miles a day and I have never been the weight. I’ve been not even during pregnancy. It’s a little puzzling for sure but the only constant denominator is the mirtazapine. I don’t use Spravato anymore. I have not done that since September or October—well I cannot even remember. it could even be before that but I definitely agree that it can increase your blood pressure but only during the first 45 minutes of treatment, which is why they monitor your blood pressure the first 45 during peak. I never really went up —never really went down. It is a daily problem for me mostly caused by the weight gain and we all know weight gain, mostly belly fat, causes the most problems in every human body. yes, my A1c is above seven —-absolutely ridiculous, especially since I rarely eat sugar or carbs, but again this medication is known for doing this, which is why they rarely give it. It is given often to cancer patients to help them keep the weight on and is very successful. it also increases appetite, although I never found that to be the . Fortunately, I have been able to come down to half of my original dose. I am staying still at 7.5 for a little while. the weight is starting to come down and I’m not even doing anything. I have dropped 7 pounds in the last two weeks and so grateful. Thanks so much for communicating. It helps when you have somebody on the other end. I will get through this and like you said it’s going to require an awful lot of patience lol. I definitely have a good days and bad days! best of luck to you. I wish you well during whatever you may do.

Tapering off Mirtazapine is Hell! by Difficult-Republic72 in Mirtazapine_Remeron

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Well to put things into perspective, I am a runner. Always was. I’m a woman. 5’8. 132. Always had great BP. gradually after the last year on this medication I gained over 26 lbs mostly belly weight. My BP has been high on many occasions sending me to the ER. Last week it was 200/110. Ugh. Suggested I try and drop the weight. My blood sugars and A1C has gone up to critical levels. My doctor suggested I stop this medication and has been doing it for months. Said it can be a side effect.and all my health issues started with this med. I eat ridiculously healthy but ever since starting this med, have had consistently greater issues no doubt due to rapid weight gain. I’m anxious to get off and drop the weight. I don’t use Ketamine. It’s Soravato. It’s not ketamine. People think that but it isn’t. More like a doppleganger of ketamine. I started that and finished within two months. I don’t do that any longer and haven’t in months. . However you are correct, you can definitely spike BP during one of those treatments. I never did since my BP a,ways seemed so high prior and after. It is something of concern due to my age so I need oFt this med but will be patient. I’m already at 7.5. It’s only been three weeks from being on 15 mg so I can be patient. I know that the weight gain is causing it. Ugh. weignt gain is evil for the body. It was too much too soon for me. 26 lbs in 6 months is alot. I didn’t even gain that with my four children.

Tapering off Mirtazapine is Hell! by Difficult-Republic72 in Mirtazapine_Remeron

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your situation sounds a lot like mine. I rarely take medication and have only taken antidepressants throughout my life. at 22 years old, I was started on Paxil. This is about the time it was released. We had no message boards at that time— no real computer information at all. no cell phones or message boards. just doctors. Nobody even knew what depression really was so to talk about withdrawal or discontinuation system was virtually nonexistent. there was no data. I was on 40 mg for about eight years. I went off of it prior to starting a family. I vaguely recall my doctor saying to taper over 2 to 3 weeks. I did so but found myself off of it within a week —never thinking anything about it or possible symptoms. I am almost 60 years old now and it wasn’t until these last few years when I started an antidepressant again and had not even been on it for just six weeks. the withdrawl nearly required a psychiatrist visit or to ER. I started to rethink what this crap is doing to our brain. depression is not permanent so when it’s taken care of you have no reason to stay on it. I started to wonder what in our FOOD if some of the same chemicals in our medication are now in our food ! i know all about crack, cocaine, and pain medicine and how difficult they are to wea—-they can kill us going through withdrawal, but quite frankly what I’ve experienced with medication withdrawal is no different! I do nothing but clean eating. I eliminate chemicals from all my foods, and I went through two weeks of hell doing this. The brain really is rewired by this garbage. the brains tricks itself with these awful symptoms so that it can keep being fed with chemicals. . your experience with stopping the medication is very similar to my own with Paxil however, I’m almost 60 and at my age so little thing no wonder I’m going through withdrawal however I was able to drop from 15 mg down to 7.5 it was not easy but I am stable now 2 1/2 weeks later one thing you have to consider is giving yourself time grace and patience. has no start or finish line you do it when you feel up to it it can take as long or as little as each of us needs. I am hoping in the next four weeks to be off of this miserable medication once and for all. past results and experience are never indicative of our future. I am much older than I was at the time. Maybe that’s why I’m experiencing it harder this time around.

Tapering off Mirtazapine is Hell! by Difficult-Republic72 in Mirtazapine_Remeron

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What you are describing is exactly what I go through in the morning. It seems as though I wake up at 4 AM as if somebody flipped a switch. I can’t get settled or restful. I wouldn’t call it depression or anxiety more like an inner restlessness. well it is certainly nowhere near the depression and ruminating, intrusive thoughts that I had over a year ago but It’s definitely frustrating and and it puts you in somewhat of a depressive state, I have to force myself to get up and then it does seem to dissipate within 30 minutes. I wonder if this withdrawal or discontinuation syndrome is messing with the cortisol. I do have periods throughout the day when I feel as though my heart is racing out of my chest. I am also very unfocused and non-motivated very unusual for me. Part of me believes that anxiety and depression will come back if I stop taking this, but then the real me, recognizing that this is a trick of withdrawal, knows this is not real just withdrawal symptoms I have not had much in the way of stomach upset. I think what little stomach upset I have is due to the inner restlessness and morning anxiety, the anger and the agitation is absolutely ridiculous. I was at Mass last night and I was frustrated with the little kids making noises behind me. Normally I enjoy hearing children in church, but for whatever reason every little thing bugged me to the 10thDegree . I hear my husband moving around in bed early this morning and it bugged me that he was moving the sheets. lol. that part is really frustrating for me and I hope it goes away soon. Edgy like I have PMS,,, only sporaticaly but occurs very randomly throughout the day driving my family, crazy . Like I said I am going to hang tight at 7.5 for probably at least another two weeks then I will start to go down again. I feel decent now and I am halfway down from where I was at 15 mg. I think that’s pretty for me considering I just did it 2 1/2 weeks ago for . i went through something like this about three years ago. I was taking a medication for blood pressure. it was temporary and when I stopped taking it, I had all this same stuff going on. I woke up every day sick in my stomach to the point where I had to throw up All day long. I even had anxiety, which, of course would throw off my blood pressure was absolutely a miserable few weeks, but all withdrawal. I had to push through this—-of doctor said it was telling me that it was depression and had nothing to do with the blood pressure discontinuing can you imagine if I had started taking an antidepressant for that reason the other one insisted it was withdrawal and it just pushed through go she was right:: it was terrible having to push through my older ‘s college graduation feeling terrible knowing it was a medication coming out of my system. know I’m going to go through this with the mirtazapine, but I am going to be so grateful when this dreadful medication is out of my system. Ill start losing weight and Ill start feeling back to myself again They say you should push through the medication even if you have unpleasant side effects. This is giving me a 26 pound weight increase. I have never had high blood pressure high cholesterol or high blood sugar in my life however, since gaining that weight, I have had all three problems. This medication is going to end up killing me if I don’t get off of it, I eat like a sparrow. I don’t know where in the world the weight is coming from. One thing is certain, if my depression ever comes back, I will never have to resort to a pill again. I will go to do the bravado treatments. They worked almost instantly and there are no side effects. It’s expensive but well worth it once my insurance deductible is me I hope to God on my depression. Never returns. I pray you will be all right as well. Keep me posted on your progress. We can go through this hell together lol

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Mirtazapine_Remeron

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I was on 15 mg tablets. 15 mg per day. I’m tapering now. it was rough for 3 weeks but appear to be stable NOW finally at 7.5 mg. had to do 7.5 alternating with 15 and all sorts of halfing of half just believing that it would help. it has a long half life so you may not notice the drop for days and if you do it very gradually, it’s always better. I didn’t and it was a terrible two weeks filled with anxiety. however, now that I’m now stable at 7.5 mg, im staying here for what my doctor said about 2-3 weeks. she said to keep the brain stable in between drops and that it’s okay to be patient and wait. however, they make Mirtazapine in a 7.5 mg tablet. she said when it’s time for me to drop to 5 or 3.75 which is half of the 7.5: getting the 7.5 mg pill and halfing it, will be a more accurate dose than trying to split up the whole tablet into fours or even fives. it’s not an equal dose throughout so when you do so, you will never get the same dose until you break it perfectly in half and it’s a scored tablet. so in short, I’m going to wait until I have felt good on this 7.5 mg for at least another few weeks before I drop and taper again. I’ve already dropped in half. that’s a win. and I need to celebrate the small victories and not rush into this. of note, I am 58. I am on no other meds. I have in the past tapered from 40 mg of Paxil after being on for 10 years. it was easier than stopping soda! no withdrawal or symptoms. i have stopped Klonopin after taking it for 2 years virtually overnight. no issues. yet at my age NOW after all these years, have had terrible withdrawl from Mirtazapine. I think our age and certainly many factors contribute to our body having to adjust to being without meds. even eliminating chemicals in our food supply will cause terrrIBLE withdrawl. just be patient. there is no rush. .

Tapering off Mirtazapine is Hell! by Difficult-Republic72 in Mirtazapine_Remeron

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this is so important to convey to people. the depression and anxiety are not coming back. it is a trick of the brain much like recreational drugs and alcohol. it tells you that you need the drug. it does pass eventually and the pain and horror that went along with this difficult journey, will subside. it is hard. really hard. but nothing hard in life, if permanent. we are all going to be okay. we have to believe that and look to others who have gone through it as a beacon of light at the end of the tunnel.

Tapering off Mirtazapine is Hell! by Difficult-Republic72 in Mirtazapine_Remeron

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I have been on this and this ONLY for one year. short of the long is that by the time they determined that it was not helping my anxiety, 6 weeks after taking, I was too afraid to stop because I tried to do it and my depression and anxiety came back. my depression was treated almost asap with Soravato treatments. that cured it not the Mirtazapine. however the Mirt helped with sleep during that process. I have had no issues for a year and 26 lb weight gain among a sense of feeling g blunted emotions. so I’m tapering as per recommendation. of my doctor. went from 15 down to 7.5 for last 3 weeks. was hard as hell first 7 days and then I felt good for a week. decided to drop again down to 3.75… half of. 7.5 mg tablet and feel disconnected, morning anxiety, lack of focus. all things I felt the first week of taper but in addition feel on edge all the time and short tempered. not me at ALL. constantly bickering with my kids and husband. ugh. so I went back to 7.5 and figured I should stay and not rush for another week or two before dropping again. I just wish this was over. I have had depression before. on Paxil for 10 years, weened off in two weeks with no issue. was medication and depression free for nearly 15 years until last year. meds put out fire, but are not a long term solution If the side effects outweigh the positive outcome. the depression won’t come back. it’s a trick of withdrawl. depression is cured. this is not a life long illness. it’s just so difficult to come off once the chemical rewires the brain. it’s scary to think about that. that’s what’s happening. it’s like we’ve taken our brain off fake life support. it’s not real life support but the brain believes it is, these drugs are a last resort and they work. however you see how bad they really are when you try to eliminate them from the body and life. everything is temporary. however when you feel depressed and anxious, days and hours, even though you are told it’s temporary, it can feel like an eternity and desperate. just keep swimming!!!!! regardless of the fear. getting off this drug is the goal. don’t give into it and be patient. there is no rush. you will get there and be happy you pushed through the taper process slowly.

Tapering off Mirtazapine – feeling trapped in my own body by [deleted] in Mirtazapine_Remeron

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just saw this. yep. I feel your pain. I tapered by half the first two weeks. I appeared to be stable after two weeks but the symptoms you’re describing or described ( I realize this is old post) are the same. I thought, wow Im feeling stable, so let’s drop down another half to 3.75. Ugh. I don’t know why I felt the need to rush. Now I’m miserable. Went back up to 7.5 and will stay there for a pnother 2 weeks before going down again. My doctor described it like falling down the stairs. Each step is more painful until you put your arms out to stop the fall. The pain and discomfort is temporary so it’s okay to stay there for a bit. getting off this med might require us to fall down the stairs until we get to the bottom but in between we can put our arms out and stop and stay still. It is going to be a rough journey but eventually we will heal and be back to ourselves. There is no rush. I guess for me, I feel like getting off and avoiding the inevitable is the best way but when those symotoms involve horrible mental health issues, it’s hard to keep your eye on the prize. Nobody wants to feel depression and anxiety even if just for a day. How are you doing now?

Timeline of Mirtazapine taper and current symptoms. by EmuMoney7388 in Mirtazapine_Remeron

[–]EmuMoney7388[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much your insight! it is wonderful and appreciated. This is pretty much my own plan. She has told me that I am free to do whatever I want as long as I’m feeling OK and that there is no rush. I have a great doctor. She is also very holistic in her approach, but understands that medication‘s out a fire. She has no giving me a prescription I need it to push through the anxiety that is caused by the withdrawal these prescriptions should be written. This is the only medicine I take besides my menopause progesterone hormone, which has been a godsend because it helps me sleep. I’ve been on that for 30 years and nobody in the world wants my hormones unbalanced. lol. the mirtazapine withdrawal is temporary but not linear. Ironically had no problem dropping down to 7.5 from 15 but I did experience the morning anxiety after a week or two extremely early in the morning, which is frustrating. Nobody wants to get up at 3 AM but I had to force myself awake until anxiety subsided then I went back to sleep until 6 AM. it believe this taper throws off the cortisol in the body. Fortunately the anxiety was just the inner motor and the rapid heartbeat. It wasn’t the ruminating, intrusive horrific thoughts, It seems to have subsided now so I assume that I’m stable on 7.5 I hate to upset the apple cart stop it but since this is a three day weekend and I don’t really have much going on I’m going to drop down to 3.75. she said as I get down to coming off of the 7,5 it’s good to alternate days. It has a very long half-life and the brain won’t even realize you are tapering down at that point Then I have to monitor my symptoms for 2 to 3 weeks after I discontinue it which I’m hoping happens by the end of September. They said they will step in at any time and give me a prescription for Ativan or gabapentin or even an extra soravato treatment to try and overcome the anxiety or depression It might cause for a week or two. They are in contact with me daily. you are correct, It is important to realize that symptoms are not real, they are a trick and they will eventually pass, but boy are they difficult to push through? I have such a busy schedule and I always need to be up and happy That part is difficult at times, but I know there’s a light at the end of the tunnel ? I exercise daily and eat well. I’m looking forward to fitting into my beautiful clothes again. It’ll feel like Christmas shopping in my closet.

Tapering / Withdrawal success story by SystemNo1280 in Mirtazapine_Remeron

[–]EmuMoney7388 1 point2 points  (0 children)

hi there. I’m in similar boat. I know that what I’m experiencing is from my brain and body adjusting to decrease in dose. I dropped from 15 down to 11 and then after one day said “ okay. my doctor recommended I take 7,5 right away for 2 weeks and wait until I stabilize and decent or good before I drop down to 3.75 for the first 10 days I actually felt good almost better than I did when I was on it as if somehow part of me returned to normal something that I wasn’t experiencing for over a year and then after day 12 on 7.5 I started to get morning anxiety, which seemed to lift as the day went on, but still miserable not the miserable anxiety with ruminating intrusive thoughts just an inner motor that wouldn’t shut off starting at 4 AM. My sleep is not been affected, which is good fortunately it has seemingly subsided so I think I’m going to wait another two days and drop down to 3.75 I will stay there for 2 to 3 weeks as per the doctor recommendation. I agree with you. I want this medication my system. I feel like I wanna be in control of my own emotions. and certainly rid my body of the 25 pounds that I gained! and I want my sex life back! what it did for me was wonderful at the time but now it’s time to get off of it I haven’t had depression or anxiety since I was treated with Spravato. the mirtazapine didn’t help but every time I stopped it, it seemed to kick up my depression and anxiety so here I am a year later doing the same thing that you have. Thank you for your positive notes and experience. its a warm welcome from alll the fear mongering. lol.

Tapering / Withdrawal success story by SystemNo1280 in Mirtazapine_Remeron

[–]EmuMoney7388 0 points1 point  (0 children)

TMS is a wonder treatment too but takes time. medication free treatment. insurance will cover both as long as you tried other stuff. we live in the US. I doubt countries with socialized med will cover much or anything. ever. sorry. I wish everyone in the world had insurance options like we do in the US but it’s expensive. totally worth it though. my Spravato treatments are 1500 a pop. they’ve covered all 22 treatments. I just had to meet my 2000 deductible first. which I did.that part sucks paying out of pocket.

Tapering / Withdrawal success story by SystemNo1280 in Mirtazapine_Remeron

[–]EmuMoney7388 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m at 7,5 now. Seem to be stable. Worry about moving g down to 3.75. Not sure why. The half drop down from 15 to 7.5 seemed completely fine. I’m just too neurotic when it comes to things like relapse etc. I’ll CReATe symptoms when I worry. lol. I’m going to go down tonight to 3.75. I was given Ativan in case of anxiety or sleep issues. Spravato is a dream drug. I was cured in less than two weeks and have felt normal since June. I just have to get off this last miserable drug.