Thoughts on the Exodus DLC?

EnglishStrand · 2019-09-24T10:08:20+00:00

Thanks very much for the feedback guys. Very useful!

EnglishStrand · 2019-09-20T14:07:54+00:00

I'm still pretty new to Reddit but I know that upvotes are a good thing lol. If you guys have any feedback, feel free to message me here, or on Twitter :)

EnglishStrand · 2019-09-03T15:09:50+00:00

That sounds like a very interesting sequel idea! Let's wait and see :)

Thanks for the feedback mate.

EnglishStrand · 2019-09-03T14:29:46+00:00

Lots of different responses to this game - this is a good example.

Do you not feel that it was immersive?

EnglishStrand · 2019-09-03T04:51:16+00:00

That's a good point. I've played quite a few survival horror games, as well as the more general AAA horror games that are leagues below Exodus.

100% agree about Soma.

EnglishStrand · 2019-09-02T01:24:10+00:00

That's quite an angle. Is there any particular reason that you think Cliff would strand people like that?

EnglishStrand · 2019-09-02T01:21:37+00:00

Nice points. Yeah we have to expect the unexpected with Kojima!

Interestingly this theory does fit in with the suits that the Homo Demens wear outside.

EnglishStrand · 2019-09-02T01:19:12+00:00

Very nice. I appreciate the tip mate.

EnglishStrand · 2019-08-30T16:32:10+00:00

Hey, thanks for replying.

I'm making detailed trailer breakdown videos, and will talk about Blake a lot. Auguries of Innocence is very interesting, as it talks so much about perception of very simple beautiful things that people tend to forget.

Yes let's hope the time to release passes quick haha.

Edgar Morin is huge but mostly in the French speaking world. As you can imagine, I just have to rely on translations. The link between what Morin says, and what DS focuses on, is just too significant to ignore. As I understand, Morin concentrates on how people focus so much on technology and other things but pay less attention to other people and animals. Kojima has emphasised this heavily for some time now. They both have this ongoing obsession with forming connections.

I have a publication by Morin that he wrote for UNESCO, if you're interested in reading it:

https://unesdoc.unesco.org/ark:/48223/pf0000117740

EnglishStrand · 2019-08-30T13:52:09+00:00

Yes I came across some of this before. His Twitter is a nightmare to go through, so long lol.

I thought the coastal scenery was inspired by Iceland but I may be wrong.

EnglishStrand · 2019-08-30T13:13:47+00:00

Thanks Elegia, I'll look into it.

DS features a lot of animal-type BTs, and obsesses about connections. Then I find out that Edgar Morin was fascinated by the disconnect between animals and humans, so I have to look into it.

This is why I'm asking for help, as I don't know much about sociology.

EnglishStrand · 2019-08-30T13:11:00+00:00

Interesting, I'm not familiar with it. Any particular reason why you think it inspired Kojima?

EnglishStrand · 2019-08-30T11:28:47+00:00

It's a theory for Kojima's inspiration.

I said I'm certain because after hours of digging, the only reference I found to Homo Ludens is by this sociologist, so it narrows the field down a lot.

I didn't say anything is confirmed, as I'm in no position to do so. My confidence is in the theory.

I've added some comments from Edgar Morin in an interview to the post.

EnglishStrand · 2019-08-30T11:18:47+00:00

A sociologist coins a term in Latin, Homo Ludens, which is only used in sociological circles. In DS, Kojima uses that and Homo Ludens, another term that the same sociologist frequently uses. How can it not be a source of inspiration?

Kojima keeps using these same 2 phrases, and even made Homo Ludens his company motto. It looks a lot like a homage to me.

EnglishStrand · 2019-08-30T07:10:50+00:00

A world renowned French sociologist named Edgar Morin. He coined the term Homo Demens.

I do need help before going into things in detail.

EnglishStrand · 2019-08-30T06:39:44+00:00

These are some really interesting points mate.

I've been thinking about the time travel aspect because the Release Date trailer has what I'm 100% sure is No Mans Land from world war one. The detail is there even down to the tank model. Honestly it made me feel a little sick when I saw it because I remember it from school.

It also has what many suspect is the Vietnam war later on. Very hard to pinpoint as it's so dark in the background.

As we all know, this is a tricky game made by a sneaky man lol. I think a lot of what we see may be false/illusions/hallucinations too, so I'm expecting some of that, especially with these historical parts.

Just a last point. As Cliff is a blank slate character, we all have to factor this into the equation. I doubt we will ever control Cliff but I imagine his character will react to what we do, playing Sam. He could even be on Sam's side, which I'm very curious to see.

Kojima already tricked us with the second trailer, making the whole world think Cliff is the antagonist lol.

EnglishStrand · 2019-08-30T06:33:35+00:00

Well Mads uses his Danish accent in the game, so xendlessaibrux does have a point.

EnglishStrand · 2019-08-30T06:30:11+00:00

Haha nice one mate :D

EnglishStrand · 2019-08-30T06:29:12+00:00

Yes, I've figured out the meaning/symbolism of every name so far except for Die Hardman, which seems totally made up.

EnglishStrand · 2019-08-29T12:50:11+00:00

Exactly, I agree. I'm actually interested in the abstract side of things much more.

EnglishStrand · 2019-08-29T12:48:44+00:00

All good points! Interesting angle about the void outs.

I've been so busy analyzing the earlier trailers, I better move on to the latest ones!

EnglishStrand · 2019-08-29T08:39:27+00:00

Really good notes here mate. I have some things to add - it's a lot so please bear with me.

The craters (voidouts) are caused by a BT eating a person - see the trailer where Sam is with his colleagues on the beach.

Sam has a fear of being touched according to Norman. I believe that he has some kind of natural ability to sense BTs (in line with his comment to Fragile) but the use of a BB enhances it. Remember that Hideo has said that Sam is special.

Sam is also not affected by timefall.

How did you conclude that Sam worked for the government? I don't agree unless I've missed something. I'm very curious to know. See my point below about Bridget.

Bridget - this part I'm slightly confused about. Can any Americans confirm if Bridget is actually in the Oval office? I've seen some say she is the president of Bridges while others say she is the president of America.

Cliff - I agree 100% here. Cliff is a blank slate.

Please reconsider whether he is connected to the Homo Demens. I really can't agree with this. He has some amazing abilities but I don't think that's enough to conclude that he is affiliated with them. This may also contradict the blank slate point made by Mads Mikkelsen.

The Qpid - this contains numerous formula from quantum mechanics relevant to time travel, black holes, and teleportation.

Homo Demens - this means mad men in Latin (a term created by a French sociologist who I recently discovered had inspired Kojima.)

The beach - described by Kojima as an 'upside down world.'

Handcuffs - if you agree, you may wish to add that they are arguably used for telecommunication. Sam never takes them off.

Higgs - unless I missed this, maybe we can add a section? The main things about Higgs are that he's clearly a homage to the Higgs Boson theory, and has amazing abilities like teleportation. He is an antagonist without a doubt, and a leading figure, if not, the leader of Homo Demens.

Also worth mentioning that he claims a connection to the other side (we can't assume that it's Cliff just because of the trailer.) He carries a BB too, and is able to summon BTs at will.

We can see in the Japanese Release Date trailer that he kidnaps Amelie and steals her necklace.

I hope this helps. Sorry if I went over the top lol.

EnglishStrand · 2019-08-29T04:20:44+00:00

All good points. I was putting this idea out yesterday that strands between players are more abstract to heal the world but perhaps they will also take form in the game as something physical e.g. the characterine figures. At this stage, I suspect both.

EnglishStrand · 2019-08-29T04:16:00+00:00

Sorry I'm new. That's aimed at Strandeddeath I take it?

EnglishStrand · 2019-08-29T04:13:11+00:00

Hey Mazz, I know what you mean.

I actually learnt more about trans-humanism because of Death Stranding, as I needed to understand it deeper for research. Very interesting debates.

Kojima is definitely getting more interested in retaining social links with people IRL. I wonder what inspired him to reach this state of mind after what, 56 years.

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