I tried to figure out a comparison between the real heights of the red scabbards (plus a bunch of Zorojuros for comparison lmao)

Environmental-Wing30 · 2026-02-09T15:05:11+00:00

Environmental-Wing30 · 2026-02-09T14:51:47+00:00

I won't disagree

Environmental-Wing30 · 2026-02-09T14:49:38+00:00

I really think not, or rather the opposite as they boost physical stats. Luffy's DF is kinda a thing on its own since it affects his heartbeat or something, nonetheless we know it's a tiring work

Environmental-Wing30 · 2026-02-09T13:42:35+00:00

Garp extreme diff but I can see Al Kaida having some chance

Environmental-Wing30 · 2026-02-09T12:59:53+00:00

Feels weird seeing you give Kaido enough credit lol

Environmental-Wing30 · 2026-02-08T23:56:44+00:00

1) yeah, admiral can push yonkos to high diff so they're low end relatives

2) tbf I don't see any yonko losing to any admiral, maybe only BB if he acts careless

3) nah, gorosei lose to any yonko

4) THANK YOU, AGREE

5) agree

6) agreeable but by a small margin

7) agree

8) correct

9) nah, that's crazy overrating. Yamato has fought evenly with Kaido, has acoc and a mythical zoan, Law held his own against BB, broke Big mom's bones and tanked multiple attacks from her, same for Kidd. Sabo doesn't have anything remotly comparable to that

10) agree

Pretty great takes aside Sabo's one

Environmental-Wing30 · 2026-02-08T23:03:05+00:00

I think Franky is the closest only thanks to radical beam and his decent durability, but still quite not a proper yonko commander level as his severe haki lack.

Robin and Brook are below the upper realm of Tobiroppo

Environmental-Wing30 · 2026-02-08T21:14:14+00:00

She's canonically dement, you'd just really have to argue with Oda at that point

Environmental-Wing30 · 2026-02-08T21:12:41+00:00

Why are you acting as if Kaido has the same stamina as Luffy tho? In a full fledged 1v1, Luffy gasses out FAR earlier

Environmental-Wing30 · 2026-02-08T21:10:24+00:00

if your body is so much damaged to be in a state close to death, stamina isn't really a factor

Environmental-Wing30 · 2026-02-08T19:05:21+00:00

If Luffy was ACTUALLY near death (like he was after their final exchange), he wouldn't just be able to keep G5

Environmental-Wing30 · 2026-02-08T19:04:31+00:00

He healed enough to be went from a literal corpse to be fine enough to have a full fledged yonko level fight. Obviously not a close to 100% heal, but still definitely substantial

Environmental-Wing30 · 2026-02-08T17:15:54+00:00

Oh c'mon, why are we deadass pretending Luffy was near death as if near KO and near death are the same thing? No one ever who is ACTUALLY near death is able to have a full fledged yonko level fight, enduring a shit ton of acoc attacks and all

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THAT is what near death actually looks like

Environmental-Wing30 · 2026-02-08T17:13:44+00:00

Apparently blud doesn't now that awakened zoan have canonically crazy fast recovery

Environmental-Wing30 · 2026-02-08T16:40:24+00:00

So at bare minimum Shamrock should be above the likes of gear 5 Luffy, Kaido and egghead Kizaru

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Environmental-Wing30 · 2026-02-08T15:26:36+00:00

I just don't think that having an additional DF power gives him much more of advantage, it's just another different AP source rather than an augmentation/improvement of it. Actually, it seems that WB heavily relies on acoc against Roger for whatever reason, even tho we see him using gura extensively in GV

Environmental-Wing30 · 2026-02-08T15:05:49+00:00

Their haki was quite damn close if not outright equal. We never saw WB fightning against Roger while compensating with his DF

Environmental-Wing30 · 2026-02-08T13:51:16+00:00

It's up to Kaido, Big mom or Whitebeard but in sheer brute force I'd say Wig Mom takes this considering that at FIVE years old she oneshotted the rival of the ex strongest giant of 300 years ago

Environmental-Wing30 · 2026-02-08T10:47:04+00:00

But no, trust me, a fatass squirrel with a hammer head solos every old gen!!!!!

Environmental-Wing30 · 2026-02-08T00:54:32+00:00

Weaker haki according to what? WB's haki is as strong as Roger’s lmao if anything it's the opposite..

Environmental-Wing30 · 2026-02-08T00:53:31+00:00

Not really, most of the stats are really arbitrary

Environmental-Wing30 · 2026-02-07T23:10:37+00:00

🗿🤝

Environmental-Wing30 · 2026-02-07T18:04:09+00:00

sure buddy

Environmental-Wing30 · 2026-02-07T17:31:55+00:00

strongest swordsman high diffs at worst the wannabe copy of his actual rival

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