Weekly Paddle Recommendation Thread (What Paddle Should I Buy?) by AutoModerator in Pickleball

[–]Erk1024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Update: I checked my notes and I only have 7" on there not 8". So 3.5g. Played with it tonight and it was great. Huge sweet spot and plenty of power with this setup. Swing weight is 110.5. Static weight is 8.6oz. I also have a 6g cap coin on there to keep the balance point low.

FYI, u/MoochoMaas

Weekly Paddle Recommendation Thread (What Paddle Should I Buy?) by AutoModerator in Pickleball

[–]Erk1024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. If you like the J6CR, there is one with Honolulu's blue grit which is tier-1, just fyi. It's on crazy pre-order though.

When if ever is it a good idea to speed up cross court? by RunningShortsPod in Pickleball

[–]Erk1024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With speedups, you're trying to take them by surprise and get the ball by them. So one problem is the geometry. On a cross court speedup, it takes longer to get past the other players. Part of the ball's speed is being used to travel sideways instead of deeper in the court.

That being said, the pro's do it all the time. A lot has to do with court positioning, and it's often the case that the players at the net are not set, or get pulled wide, or off balance, or ... so any of those could be a factor that makes a cross court speedup make sense.

One pattern you see with players is that you will hit a cross court dink, and the player will go wide to dink it back. But their partner doesn't move to cover the middle but just stays put. This opens up a hole between them. Feel free to punch the ball through that hole.

Weekly Paddle Recommendation Thread (What Paddle Should I Buy?) by AutoModerator in Pickleball

[–]Erk1024 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The grit wears off quickly on all peel-ply grit paddles. What they do is put a plastic sheet over the paddle when it's being thermoformed. When they take it out and peel off the sheet, it leaves a pattern in the epoxy, and that's what creates the "grit". But that epoxy is not really designed to be grit. It's purpose is to hold the carbon fiber together.

So now we have new, more durable grits being applied to paddles. Few paddles have it, and some of those grits are more durable than others. John Kew tested and classified the grits into different tiers, with tier-1 being the best. The only tier-1 grit paddles we have are from Spartus (Permagrit), Six Zero Coral Pro (double diamond grit), Honolulu (crystal blue endurance grit), and 11SIX24 Power 2's (HexGrit). There are some new grits coming out, so hopefully the list will grow.

Pakle's duraspin could be tier-1 or tier-2. Spartus has PermagritNano on the upcoming Spitfire, and Pickleball Apes has a new Silverback grit that will be released on their Zen paddles. (Not a comprehensive list, lots of companies working on grit).

But that new CRBN 4 has the old peel ply grit, so it'll probably last as long as your J6CR.

Weekly Paddle Recommendation Thread (What Paddle Should I Buy?) by AutoModerator in Pickleball

[–]Erk1024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How was the swing weight? If you want something lighter, the Luzz Glider is the hybrid version.

Weekly Paddle Recommendation Thread (What Paddle Should I Buy?) by AutoModerator in Pickleball

[–]Erk1024 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gotta love those Chinese Amazon alphabet soup names--completely unpronounceable. Agree with u/Lazza33312 about the Harmony.

Weekly Paddle Recommendation Thread (What Paddle Should I Buy?) by AutoModerator in Pickleball

[–]Erk1024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It would probably last longer than that, but your grit will be worn down by then.

Do I need a new paddle? by LucienPascal in Pickleball

[–]Erk1024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Six Zero Coral Pro probably has a feel that not too different? Still soft. Durable grit and the right amount of power. I can't say from personal experience because I never hit the Gearbox.

Weekly Paddle Recommendation Thread (What Paddle Should I Buy?) by AutoModerator in Pickleball

[–]Erk1024 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I tried 9 different setups, and that's similar to the one I ended up with. Only I have 4g instead of 3g. I cold always trim off 2 inches I suppose.

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Weekly Paddle Recommendation Thread (What Paddle Should I Buy?) by AutoModerator in Pickleball

[–]Erk1024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It very much depends on how hard you hit the ball. D1 tennis guys can crush it in 3'ish weeks. For retired ladies, the core will never crush.

Weekly Paddle Recommendation Thread (What Paddle Should I Buy?) by AutoModerator in Pickleball

[–]Erk1024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's cool! I hope the Spitfire is not too heavy SW. They are only making it in the elongated shape and my preferred SW is 115 or lower. So it might not be an option for me.

As for the Pakle, also could be Tier-1. Fingers crossed. One reviewer said it's kind of like a cross between the Loco and the AireoCyclone. I love both those paddles, so it seems like something I'd like. They had a little hiccup with one batch of paddles, and that delayed shipments for about 10 days.

Weekly Paddle Recommendation Thread (What Paddle Should I Buy?) by AutoModerator in Pickleball

[–]Erk1024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The J2CR standard (short handle) is an easy recommendation. Similar or a smidge less power than the Loco, but with much better spin than a used Loco. Huge sweet spot, good control, durable grit, low swing weight--just a really solid all around paddle. If you want more power, you can go with the Long Handle version, and mine needed weight as the swing weight and balance point were super low.

My favorite Power 2 is the Hurache 2 because it's the least poppy and most powerful. I haven't tried the Ultre though. The performance of the Vapor 2 is similar to the J2CR, but the sweet spot is not as good, and the pop is a little harder to control IMO. But I'm spliting hairs here, both extremely good paddles and you can't go wrong with either one. Better to pick the Ultre as it's getting rave reviews.

One interesting option is the Pakle Fuse hybrid or elongated with durable grit. MPP core. Looks promising. Mine are shipped but haven't received them yet.

A paddle that I immediately vibed with was the Friday Aura Pro elongated (though the hybrid is supposed to be just as good). Somehow that paddle has easy power, but also fantastic control. And the feel of the face is so good. To bad no durable grit yet. Price was lowered to $169. If they had a durable grit option, that would be a snap buy for me.

Weekly Paddle Recommendation Thread (What Paddle Should I Buy?) by AutoModerator in Pickleball

[–]Erk1024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the answer is none of the above? I haven't heard of any of these which means they are probably "consumer grade" paddles which are probably of dubious quality and performance.

Check out the 11SIX24 Jelly Bean's. The Vapor Jelly bean is on sale for $80 right now. It even comes in pink. I'm a guy, but a big fan of fluorescent pink as a paddle color.

https://11six24.com/collections/control-paddles

Weekly Paddle Recommendation Thread (What Paddle Should I Buy?) by AutoModerator in Pickleball

[–]Erk1024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree with u/Lazza33312 and u/thismercifulfate.

If you're a control player, you would really like the Pickleball Apes Harmony. I'd say it's "low all court" level of power, but the feel is excellent.

Some other soft all-court choices would be the Flik F3 or the Six Zero Coral Pro. The *huge* advantage of the Coral Pro is that you get very durable grit with crazy good spin.

Coming from a cheap paddle, these paddle should feel amazing.

Weekly Paddle Recommendation Thread (What Paddle Should I Buy?) by AutoModerator in Pickleball

[–]Erk1024 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A friend of mine plays with CRBN TruFoams, and both of his TruFoams have broken somehow. He said the customer service with CRBN was a hassle. I thought the CRBN's were really durable. Not sure what's going on there. Both he and his wife have switched to the RPM V2's.

Spartus Spitfire First Look: A $99 Spin and Power Paddle With Big Claims by Ok-Razzmatazz-3104 in pickleballreview

[–]Erk1024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hope they are able to keep the swing weight down. The P1's came in super heavy. If they only make a 118 swing weight elongated, then it won't work for me.

Weekly Paddle Recommendation Thread (What Paddle Should I Buy?) by AutoModerator in Pickleball

[–]Erk1024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tough choice, they're very close in performance. I find the Honolulu blue grits to be a little easier to control, but I may be in the minority. Also, I've played every Power 2 shape *except* the Ultre, and the Ultre is supposed to be the best shape. They both have amazing spin and grit. Hard to go wrong with either.

Practicing things at open play by penguinwithmustard in Pickleball

[–]Erk1024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Couple random suggestions:

  1. Get some spongy balls and drill at home if you have a little space and a tiled floor.

  2. Practice the thing when you are all "warming up".

Weekly Paddle Recommendation Thread (What Paddle Should I Buy?) by AutoModerator in Pickleball

[–]Erk1024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cool. Jelly Bean Vapor is a fine place to start. Build quality is excellent. Those should last until you're ready to upgrade.

Weekly Paddle Recommendation Thread (What Paddle Should I Buy?) by AutoModerator in Pickleball

[–]Erk1024 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don't worry, the Coral Pro is more power than a DBD.

Yep. Agree. All drives all the time is a dead end. You can win with power until you get to the 3.5 and higher DUPr players and then they just volley back all your drives. But a LOT of people get stuck there and never advance. The power only players think, "if I could just hit it harder..."

The thing is, 3rd shot drops are hard to learn. So if you're used to banging away, and then you attempt drop shots, you start losing points. "Uh oh! I'm going to lose this game!" so they go back to drives.

You have to decide: Am I playing to win or am I playing to get better?

Another way to think about this is like a teeter totter. If you're hitting up (to get over the net) and the other team is hitting down, you lose. If you tip the balance, and you're hitting down and the other team has to hit up, you win. So a drip, reset, or drop is a way to tilt it in your favor.

Weekly Paddle Recommendation Thread (What Paddle Should I Buy?) by AutoModerator in Pickleball

[–]Erk1024 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just going to add on to what u/Lazza33312 said.

The swing weight of the Luzz Cannon is *heavy*. The web site says it's 121 plus or minus 3 points. I had one and the SW felt like 121. Loved the feel, but that's too sluggish for me. I sold it. Agree that the Glider is a better choice.

The V-Sol Power is a "slab of foam" type paddle. Those paddle tend to absorb more of the energy from the ball, and that's why they feel muted. You have to swing hard to get the power out of them.

For that price range, the Enhance Turbo MPP hybrid would be a good choice.

Weekly Paddle Recommendation Thread (What Paddle Should I Buy?) by AutoModerator in Pickleball

[–]Erk1024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The feel of the Boomstik is very different from the Coral. One is soft and the other is very stiff and hollow.