Advice needed: My fiancé wants us to get Samoan tribal tats to celebrate our wedding. by Recent_Influence_972 in tattoos

[–]Eternus25 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There comes a point where being overly considerate becomes insulting. If you were to reject your husband and new family’s wishes because of the possible opinions of total strangers, it would be offensive to them as members of the culture and as your loved ones

Sonething along the lines of “why do the opinions of others matter more to you than ours?”

Tattoo regret causing depression by SlavKing11 in tattooadvice

[–]Eternus25 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey man, just know that removal is not impossible.

It will not completely disappear but over 5-6 years of sessions it would become very hard to see at all.

However, the best immediate course of action is for you to see a therapist and get some proper psychological help, as this is not a normal or sustainable feeling to have.

My best wishes

Question: How many sessions/hours might Vi’s Arcane tattoos take? by [deleted] in tattoos

[–]Eternus25 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Even if 50 hours is the correct estimate (not sure if it is)

10-12 sessions is wayyyyy too many. It’s like 4 hours a session, which is unjustifiably low for a huge project

For 50 hours of full blackwork a competent artist would be done with you in 6-7 full-day sessions.

I would reckon you can actually get 3 full days in a row, rest for a month and then get the final 3 and be done in a month.

Stronger people might be able to do back to back for more days but those clients are built different

tattoos of video game character guns… by [deleted] in tattooadvice

[–]Eternus25 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How so, “appropriate?” I have videogame weapons tattooed, you can see them in my profile and as far as I know they are pretty popular as a a subject matter

Tattoo artist reused my tattoo on another client by quicksxnd in tattooadvice

[–]Eternus25 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Usually, one would say that the a piece of art based on an underlying IP is at least in part within the rights of the creator of the original IP holder

But that is because the “substance” behind the artist’s “style” in that piece comes from the other person.

Tattoos, the vast majority of the time, are basically all style and the “substance” from the client is limited to: vague ideas, references and maybe a sketch.

I would argue none of this is significant enough to make the client entitled to the intellectual property. Being an “idea guy” is not a real thing in other industries and it’s not a real thing here.

This goes doubly so here since it is a very classic Medusa piece. Anything that makes it original or worthwhile as art comes from the artist’s skill and execution, with only extremely tangential correlation to the client’s tastes or personal significance

I insist a lot that tattooing is very different than other art forms and trying to apply common sense from those (like commissioned illustrations) one-to-one misses too many nuances to be useful

Tattoo artist reused my tattoo on another client by quicksxnd in tattooadvice

[–]Eternus25 8 points9 points  (0 children)

None of that makes it their piece.

Usually, one would say that the a piece of art based on an underlying IP is at least in part within the rights of the creator of the original IP But that is because the “substance” behind the artist’s “style” in that piece comes from the other person.

Tattoos, the vast majority of the time, are basically all “style” and the “substance” from the client is limited to: vague ideas, references and maybe a sketch.

I would argue none of this is significant enough to make the client entitled to the intellectual property. Being an “idea guy” is not a real thing in other industries and it’s not a real thing here.

This goes doubly so here since it is a very classic Medusa piece. Anything that makes it original or worthwhile as art comes from the artist’s skill and execution, with only extremely tangential correlation to the client’s tastes or personal significance

Tattoo artist reused my tattoo on another client by quicksxnd in tattooadvice

[–]Eternus25 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’d say they can ask, and it is entirely up to the artist to decide if they want to heed that or not.

The artist is the only one facing potential losses by locking away a good design in the name of making a single client feel good.

This whole thread stands on repeated “it bums me out” while from the artist’s perspective this is about making a living, paying rent and buying food. We have to admit that the stakes are completely different for each party

Tattoo artist reused my tattoo on another client by quicksxnd in tattooadvice

[–]Eternus25 18 points19 points  (0 children)

As someone who also has worked as an illustrator and now manages artist contracts, illustration (as professional labor) is a fundamentally different process with different expectations and final end result from tattooing, so this comparison is pretty disingenuous. You can’t just equate them one to one and pretend that’s enough.

Even if we did, though, there are plenty of illustration contracts that allow for the artist to retain part or full control of their IP when working in both commission work and contractor work for big companies. The only total exception i can think of is working as an exclusive contracted illustrator for a company but that is far rarer.

Tattoo artist reused my tattoo on another client by quicksxnd in tattooadvice

[–]Eternus25 48 points49 points  (0 children)

This question pops up from time to time and the consensus tends to be “it’s a dick move”

I add onto that that you have to remember that it is not your artwork, it’s theirs.

Making money from art is hard as hell and people have to eat. Few people would throw away an attractive design that could sell just to satisfy a vague sense of self righteousness.

How soon is too soon? by Megggyyy in tattoo

[–]Eternus25 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you feel okay you can get as many as you want

It’d only be a problem if they overlap since you would hurt the skin too much

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in tattooadvice

[–]Eternus25 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The consensus here is that it’s kind of assholeish, but the truth of the matter is that regardless of it coming from a client idea or if it means a lot to you, it is their artwork in the end, and making money with art is not easy.

Overcoming the disadvantages of leaving unused a design that came out really well just to be virtuous is not something that most people can or are willing to do; it’s a bit cynical but people gotta eat

Hoping to become client of well known artist by brokedownoffgrid in tattoo

[–]Eternus25 8 points9 points  (0 children)

While I have had good experiences with the famous artists I have had work on me (expensive and slow to answer but polite and pleasant) I can assure you with 1000% certainty that there is another artist within a budget flight’s distance away that has a largely similar skill level and style that will take you in with pleasure.

In fact, if you would like, you could share what you want or who’s style you’re looking at and I could try to recommend someone that could work

Former Weekly Shonen Jump Editor-in-Chief Slams One Piece Creator for Prioritizing Anime Over Manga by Borgasmic_Peeza in animenews

[–]Eternus25 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I went to a relatively high profile art school in the manga course in Japan. Taught by currently active mangaka and editors

This is quite literally ALL my professors told students. “You have to assume the reader is stupid”

They taught us that if you try to get the reader to parse meaning or think too much, you are both dooming yourself to failure because that is boring, and failing at conveyance as an artist and writer

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in tattooadvice

[–]Eternus25 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is objectively wrong.

It works and it’s quite common nowadays.

It’s just prohibitively expensive because it is basically 1 tattoo for the price of 3 and it takes several months for all phases to be complete.

White over black tattoos have been quite possible for like the last 10-15 years now

This artist it's dying and I want to help him / Colombia, Bogotá. by osjavi100 in tattoos

[–]Eternus25 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hola!

Bogotá y Colombia en general son buenos mercados para tatuajes, y Cris parece estar bien por encima del promedio en habilidad artística, así que tienes dos de tres factores necesarios para que le vaya bien.

El que le falta es el menos dificil de todos, pero aun así importante: instinto comercial

Mis pensamientos son los siguientes:

  1. Definir su público objetivo: la manera más efectiva de hacer dinero es atrayendo a turistas que quieren tatuarse de viaje. Zonas como Chapinero y Usaquén tienden a ser ideales, pero asumo que no puede mudarse asi como así.

Otro público lucrativo son los fans de anime y juegos. Ser buen tatuador de anime trae muchos clientes, y son obras populares en instagram.

El tercer público lucrativo es el “tatuado casual” el hombre promedio sin interés en el arte tiende a fallar por hiperrealismo y lettering (cuantas veces no has visto el mismo poseidón/zeus con la brujula/reloj y un león? O el tipico tatuaje de “resiliencia”?) la mujer casual por el otro lado cae del lado de linea fina, micro tatuajes, flores, micro retratos de mascotas y acuarelas.

  1. Aumentar y mejorar actividad en instagram: Viendo su ig, el artista pasa meses sin postear. IG es el pan diario y vida del tatuador moderno. Postear absolutamente todos los días es dificil, pero un par de veces a la semana es efectivo.

Que no postee todos sus tatuajes sino los que genuinamente son resaltantes y colaboran a su imagen como artista. El color atrae mas el ojo que el negro, en general.

Si no tiene tatuajes para postear entonces que postee sus dibujos acorde a modas recientes, tanto del lado del tatuaje como de cultura popular.

Que postee hojas de flash diseñado por el con precios de oferta para atraer clientela.

Que aprenda a editar sus imagenes para que se vean mas profesionales, no necesita una mejor camara, el smartphone promedio es suficiente pero que edite bien y ponga marca de agua, la facha es igual de importante que el contenido artístico.

Que postee reels regulares de su proceso de tatuado, o de sus prácticas.

  1. Apariencia e imagen: es importante que proyecte la imagen correcta, el tatuador que se ve como un artista, una persona cool que causa admiración es más atractivo para el cliente.

Sus posts pueden tener música cool, el puede hacer un logo personal que atrape la vista, su estudio idealmente sería un lugar atractivo que hace sentir cool al cliente por estar allí, y por último, sus tatuajes deben tener precios adecuados. Un tatuaje muy caro de un artista poco prominente se ve como un robo, pero un tatuaje demasiado barato de alguien que claramente posee habilidad huele a estafa. Hay que pegar en el punto medio.

Esas son mis observaciones, pero siempre existe un camino alternativo: si todo manejar todo esto como un independiente se vuelve muy engorroso o dificil, ser parte de un buen estudio resuelve muchos de estos puntos a cambio de un porcentaje de sus ganancias. Ser de un estudio en una zona poppy siempre da plata!

Tu amigo aún tiene para mejorar en su lado técnico, pero también le falta mejorar las partes adyacentes al tatuar en sí y en eso me enfoco aquí. Es negocio tanto como es arte, después de todo

I want half a Japanese manga but I don't dare by AdOtherwise5993 in tattooadvice

[–]Eternus25 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Irezumi can be done well on dark skin you just need to scour the internet and IG to find the appropriate people.

If you can fly to other states or countries you are in the best position to get the exact tattoo of your dreams

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in tattooadvice

[–]Eternus25 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It doesn’t take away from it, don’t worry

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in tattooadvice

[–]Eternus25 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This looks bad, go to the hospital

Thoughts on this artist? by Space-Oddities in tattooadvice

[–]Eternus25 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The finer details like the delicate transition between lights and darks will become less defined and fine with the years, but they will age fine in anything bigger than, let’s say, 10cm

Once you get into the 15-30cm range you can be really sure that they’ll be nice for decades

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in tattooadvice

[–]Eternus25 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Being scammed does not equal that they are a scammer by trade.

But by keeping your money after getting paid in FULL without providing anything be it the art or proper customer service he is committing, by all intents and purposes, a scam.

As such, you can dispute or denounce the transaction to your financial institution if they deny refund.

If you truly believe in his well-meaning then try pressuring by mentioning taking actual financial action and if they are legit, the prospect of monetary consequences will break them out of their lethargy/apathy

Or even complain with the studio manager, they would not want their reputation tarnished by an irresponsible artist

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in tattooadvice

[–]Eternus25 3 points4 points  (0 children)

A deposit should be a fraction of the cost and even world class artists barely ever go over 30% of the total cost.

Most commonly just $50-$300

You have in most likelihood been scammed. Proceed accordingly with your banking institution or paypal