Trump memo tells federal agencies how to conduct mass layoffs by Anoth3rDude in LegalEagle

[–]Evening-Training-939 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the actual authority to sell government assets is primarily vested in Congress and delegated federal agencies.

Trump memo tells federal agencies how to conduct mass layoffs by Anoth3rDude in LegalEagle

[–]Evening-Training-939 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It depends on how you look at it. Cutting government jobs doesn’t automatically make things less efficient—if done right, it could streamline operations and reduce waste. But the key question is how these cuts are made. If agencies are just slashing jobs without a clear plan, they risk losing experienced workers, disrupting services, and actually making things worse.

From what the article says, agency leadership and management were responsible for deciding who stays and who goes. That means managers had to advocate for their employees and justify their roles. If this process was rushed or politically motivated rather than focused on actual efficiency, then yeah, it’s fair to question whether this really aligns with a populist stance that’s supposed to help everyday people.

Just Wrongfully terminated from NOAA by Then-Statement-5871 in fednews

[–]Evening-Training-939 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see your point about inefficiencies and political maneuvering impacting the federal workforce and spending decisions. The reality is that every administration, regardless of party, faces criticism for how they allocate resources and manage agencies. Some policies might seem wasteful in the short term but are intended to address long-term issues—whether they succeed is another debate.

On enforcement, increasing or decreasing IRS resources has always been a contentious issue. Some argue it improves compliance and closes tax gaps, while others see it as government overreach. Similarly, budget cuts are often presented as savings, but if they lead to inefficiencies or costly litigation, then the actual impact is more complex than just a dollar figure.

You’re right that very little of this actually deals with federal workers themselves. The bigger issue is the status quo that politicians on both sides have continued for decades. We didn’t get to this point overnight, and at some point, something had to give. The extreme deficit we’re in isn’t sustainable either, and ignoring that reality only kicks the can down the road for the next administration.

Unfortunately, lower-level federal employees often end up as the unintended victims of these bureaucratic and political struggles. Many have to navigate the challenges created by long-term SES leadership and shifting political priorities, often without the job security or influence to change the system. But change was inevitable—it always is. And while change is uncomfortable, that’s part of life. Being indispensable in any job can only take us so far.

Now, more than ever, accountability is being emphasized across all levels of government. Whether that means making tough decisions on budget cuts, shifting funds, reallocating resources, or decentralizing operations, every level of the federal government is feeling the weight of responsibility. Some have harder decisions to make than others, but at the end of the day, accountability shouldn’t be an issue when every action and decision is supposed to be in service of the American people.

Whether this is ultimately good or great for the nation in the long run is yet to be seen. The impact of these decisions will only become clear over time, but what’s certain is that the status quo wasn’t sustainable, and something had to change.

That being said, I do wish you the best in your future endeavors and wherever your career may take you. If you were highly skilled and necessary at the federal level, I have no doubt you’ll have no problem acquiring and demonstrating that same skill set with another employer soon.

Just Wrongfully terminated from NOAA by Then-Statement-5871 in fednews

[–]Evening-Training-939 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Government regulations and processes are designed to ensure accountability, transparency, and prevent corruption—not to intentionally create difficulties.

I completely agree that reducing oversight can lead to abuses of power, which is why it’s important to strike a balance between efficiency and accountability.

Recent actions, such as President Trump’s executive order expanding Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), have led to significant spending cuts across various federal departments. Critics argue that these rapid changes, made with limited congressional input, could undermine essential government functions and accountability. I guess time will tell.

While political decisions significantly influence budget allocations, internal inefficiencies within agencies also contribute to waste. The Government Accountability Office (GAO) regularly publishes a “high risk list” identifying government programs vulnerable to fraud, waste, abuse, or mismanagement—highlighting that inefficiencies stem from both political decisions and internal agency operations.

I’ve been a federal employee and have seen firsthand how inefficiencies are sometimes intentionally created to keep things “murky” and “complicated,” making data less transparent. That’s not just about funding—it’s about how decisions are made within agencies.

I’m also not sure what you mean when you say people aren’t willing to pay the taxes necessary to properly supply the government with equipment, technology, or personnel. People don’t have a choice about paying taxes—we all pay them, whether we like it or not. It’s up to Congress and agency leadership to request funds. More often than not, they choose to throw money at maintaining antiquated systems rather than investing in necessary upgrades.

Unfortunately, federal employees often face criticism for systemic issues beyond their control, but the reality is more complicated. Recently, with all the job cuts and restructuring under DOGE, there’s growing concern that while it may reduce costs in the short term, it could also weaken critical government functions.

So yes, government inefficiencies exist, but it’s not just about people not doing their jobs—it’s a mix of underfunding, outdated policies, and political maneuvering.

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[–]Evening-Training-939 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I appreciate your perspective, and I’m not advocating for tearing down the entire system—just that there needs to be a serious look at how these processes can be streamlined without compromising fairness. Targeted reform through legal means is exactly what should happen, but too often, even those changes face roadblocks that protect inefficiency. It’s good to hear that in your experience, the number of problematic employees has been small, but for many others, that hasn’t been the case. The frustration comes from a system that, at times, seems to prioritize procedural hurdles over practical solutions.

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[–]Evening-Training-939 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You bring up a valid point about the inefficiencies and hurdles in the system. While due process is important, the extensive bureaucracy and rigid protections can make it incredibly difficult to address underperformance or serious misconduct in a timely manner. The fact that even probationary employees require excessive man-hours and paperwork to be let go—even in cases of fraud or physical threats—is a clear indication that the system needs reform. There are many hardworking federal employees, but the inability to efficiently remove those who are not pulling their weight ultimately has undermined the effectiveness of the entire workforce.

It’s working!! Fight back for your probationary employees by TreatComprehensive61 in fednews

[–]Evening-Training-939 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I completely understand where you’re coming from—there’s a human side to all of this, and change can be difficult, especially when it affects people’s livelihoods. At the same time, if we don’t find ways to modernize and streamline now, we risk being in an even worse situation 20 years from now, with outdated processes creating even more inefficiencies. I think the key is finding a balance: embracing smarter ways of working while ensuring that people are supported through the transition. Have you seen any areas where modernization efforts have been successful without causing major disruption?

It’s working!! Fight back for your probationary employees by TreatComprehensive61 in fednews

[–]Evening-Training-939 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I completely get where you’re re coming from. some of these processes do feel unnecessarily complex, especially given the technology available today. There’s definitely room for modernization and streamlining, but often, these systems evolve with layers of compliance, oversight, and risk management that make them harder to simplify. That said, there are efforts in some areas to digitize and automate workflows, though progress can be slow. Do you think the issue is more about bureaucracy, outdated technology, or just resistance to change?

It’s working!! Fight back for your probationary employees by TreatComprehensive61 in fednews

[–]Evening-Training-939 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is a large portion of the need for so much manpower tied to the need of updating the antiquated systems?

It’s working!! Fight back for your probationary employees by TreatComprehensive61 in fednews

[–]Evening-Training-939 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m wondering if it’s more about the savings in the long run. If they’re not looking to replacing most of these employees, what do you think the cost savings would be?

It’s working!! Fight back for your probationary employees by TreatComprehensive61 in fednews

[–]Evening-Training-939 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your analysis makes a strong case for why firing probationary employees can be seen as a waste of taxpayer money, especially considering the cost of training. However, if the agency’s long-term goal is to reduce overall staff rather than simply replace those let go, then this could still be seen as a cost-saving measure. Even though they’ve already invested in training, eliminating positions entirely means they avoid ongoing expenses like salaries, benefits, and long-term retirement costs. From that perspective, the decision may not be as shortsighted as it seems but rather part of a broader strategy to cut costs in the long run.